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Farsight Clone

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Aberdeen
Johnson
Chandler
Kam Williams
Moreno

This gives you 4 wings and Kam can play the stretch 4. No more hogging the lane with Mo D and Garrison.

Off the Bench
Oweh
Mo D
Jelly
Garrison - 5-10 mins a game (depending on Moreno Foul trouble)


Johnson and Moreno clearly has chemistry. They need to play them together a lot.
 

Ford to Mashburn

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Starters
Aberdeen
Johnson
Chandler
Kam Williams
Moreno

This gives you 4 wings and Kam can play the stretch 4. No more hogging the lane with Mo D and Garrison.

Off the Bench
Oweh
Mo D
Jelly
Garrison - 5-10 mins a game (depending on Moreno Foul trouble)


Johnson and Moreno clearly has chemistry. They need to play them together a lot.
Johnson/Moreno play great off each other
 

Jtf2217

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I agree with benching oweh. Supposed to be a leader and the exact opposite. Oweh is hurting the team more than helping. Needs to get it together. We have 2 40+% 3 point shooters shooting 30 and 14%. (Stop shooting them Mo. Your form isnt that of a confident decent percentage shooter, sure he may accidentally hit one but unless he figures out that hitch the ones he hits will be more luck than anything.
Noah our best shooter is a 28% for the year.
Seems like we're just not as good as everyone thought.
Chandler is good and has heart. I never thought oweh would be like this this year. Cam I thought was going to be a bigger Koby Brea (lol) garrison is a.wasted scholarship this team just isn't good.
 

Blue Jesus

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I would like to see your lineup.

I'm also interested in seeing Jelavic or MoD play center.

I think a lineup with Aberdeen, Oweh, Chandler, Kam, and Dioubate could pressure teams to death, run in transition, attach the paint, and hit shots. They'd have to emphasize rebounding due to size but they're an athletic bunch.

In general I hope Pope will shorten the rotation. We're playing 10 guys right now, and we have two starters out hurt. Surely we're not planning to play 12 guys if/when everyone is active... so just cut the rotation now and let's go. It's not like we're playing so fast and aggressively that we really need the deep bench to sustain our intensity.
  • Noah gave nothing tonight, he shouldn't be getting the ball off of zoom handoffs, he gets swallowed up. He should be running around the perimeter getting open for kick-outs, and looking for backdoor cuts. Fewer minutes please.
  • Garrison can't put together three (two?) good possessions in a row. He doesn't rebound or protect the rim well for his size or position. He doesn't seem comfortable with the ball up top in the zoom action, he just can't read those situations well. Occasionally he makes a good pass, but mostly it's just a clunky series of handoffs with three defenders crowding the action. I'm not really impressed by his defense this year like I thought I would be. We should run some lob plays for him so that our guards get practice throwing lobs for when JQ is back. Fewer minutes please.
  • Jelavic is intriguing and could be a good piece, but right now he's just not (tonight: 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists). Fewer minutes please.
  • Jasper Johnson is coming around. Fewer dumb shots, more passing. And he's probably the quickest guy on the team while Lowe is out. Somebody needs to be able to beat their man and draw a second defender on the drive, and right now JJ seems like the best bet. More minutes please.
  • Aberdeen has arguably been our best player so far. I don't think a team with Aberdeen as its best player is a real threat. Also, why are his threes either nothing-but-net or airballs? Minutes seem about right, he should probably play the most at least while Lowe is out, and I think he does.
  • Oweh played okay tonight, not great, not terrible. This should basically be his baseline. He's not getting as many transition opportunities as last year, and settling for jump shots way too often. Fewer minutes, but I still want him out there, because we need him to get his mojo back.
  • Kam: I continue to believe the best version of this team involves Kam Williams playing a lot. Long and athletic, smart, good shooter, good defender. He was +11 vs Louisville, by far the best on the team, and a 0+/- tonight, which again was the best on the team. Way more minutes please.
  • Chandler has been great, he's not going to lead the team in points but he shows up every game. He probably would get more minutes but it seems like he's in foul trouble most games, lol.
  • Moreno is a pleasant surprise. Limited, basically a below-the-rim player despite being 7ft tall. I'd still give him more of Garrison's minutes.
  • Dioubate is playing fine, I guess? I don't feel strongly about anything he's done really, I thought his impact would be more prominent. That's probably why he's the last guy I'm commenting on... I thought he would be like Adou, or Liggins, where the tenor of the game changes when he comes in. About the right number of minutes, but try him out at the 5.

I'm not giving up on this team or coach like some on the board seem to be doing tonight. Not criticizing anyone for how they feel right now, I'm just not there personally. Pope has an opportunity to show he can pull the right strings, right the ship, and turn a talented group of players into a team that plays together and knows how to win. This isn't his typical roster and I'm willing to accept he needs more time to figure it out than usual. With that said it's an expensive roster, maybe the most expensive in CBB, and that makes figuring it out an imperative.

We have four more big-time games before conference play, and anything less than 3-1 in those four games and there will be a lot of pessimism in the fanbase. And, please, no more 17 point first half deficits...
 

megablue

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I doubt he’s going to bring a guy getting paid $3million off the bench in. He absolutely should to send a message, but he won’t. Never seen a guy decline in one summer like our pre-season SEC player of the year.
There is pressure on Oweh this year.
There was no pressure on him last year.
He is struggling to deal with it.
To me, it's that simple.
 

Vek96

All-Conference
Jul 4, 2025
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3,391
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Starters
Aberdeen
Johnson
Chandler
Kam Williams
Moreno

This gives you 4 wings and Kam can play the stretch 4. No more hogging the lane with Mo D and Garrison.

Off the Bench
Oweh
Mo D
Jelly
Garrison - 5-10 mins a game (depending on Moreno Foul trouble)


Johnson and Moreno clearly has chemistry. They need to play them together a lot.
Honestly, none of them look all that great so far versus the two teams we’ve played with a pulse, but, there’s zero doibt that to build chemstry, you have to split most of the minutes down to 8-9 players.

Garrison should get mop up minutes only.
 
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MarvinHagler89

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Does it really matter at this point? The only 3 plays I have seen consistently play worth their salt is Aberdeen, Moreno, chandler. This team is horrible across the board. If Pope/UK gave $22 million for this team, then they need to go see a financial advisor because most were a bad investment.
 
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Starters
Aberdeen
Johnson
Chandler
Kam Williams
Moreno

This gives you 4 wings and Kam can play the stretch 4. No more hogging the lane with Mo D and Garrison.

Off the Bench
Oweh
Mo D
Jelly
Garrison - 5-10 mins a game (depending on Moreno Foul trouble)


Johnson and Moreno clearly has chemistry. They need to play them together a lot.

I still think you need oweh instead of jasper. Jasper just doesn't understand playing a role or letting the game come to him. He comes in firing away every time. He has a long way to go before he gets starter minutes.

Otherwise i agree.

Oddly kam looked entirely lost except the two games vs high level competition. Then he looked like one of the few that belonged.

Jelavic can't shoot. Noah looks out of place and i guess Pope is making a statement playing him so much? Just so much weirdness.
 
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carolinacat

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I could get behind the OP's lineup. I think the only way we have a chance to be decent is if our Freshman are good enough to carry us. Diaboute is a role player at best. That's what he was at AL, and really the same can be said about Aberdeen at FL. These guys can look good coming off the bench, but don't have the talent to play starter's minutes and carry a team at the high D1 level. Jasper is talented and we need to coach him up and get rid of the street ball mentality. At least Williams has some size and a history of decent 3 pt shooting. He seemed to improve down the stretch last year for Tulane.

Jelavic looks overmatched. Oweh won't accept a limited role. Noah is strictly a limited role player. Garrison should be relegated to 10 minutes/game.

Memo to Pope: With rare exceptions, there is no such thing as an elite portal player. If they were elite they'd be in the NBA draft.
 

SkyPrince

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I still think you need oweh instead of jasper. Jasper just doesn't understand playing a role or letting the game come to him. He comes in firing away every time. He has a long way to go before he gets starter minutes.

Otherwise i agree.

Oddly kam looked entirely lost except the two games vs high level competition. Then he looked like one of the few that belonged.

Jelavic can't shoot. Noah looks out of place and i guess Pope is making a statement playing him so much? Just so much weirdness.
Other than Pope, Noah was the biggest loser last night as far as perception.
It's apparent in our losses that he's in way over his head with legit D1 competition.
The "Mountain Mamba" mystique has crashed back down to reality.
 
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Crazy4Blue

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  • Dioubate is playing fine, I guess? I don't feel strongly about anything he's done really, I thought his impact would be more prominent. That's probably why he's the last guy I'm commenting on... I thought he would be like Adou, or Liggins, where the tenor of the game changes when he comes in. About the right number of minutes, but try him out at the 5.
No way should Mo ever be allowed to shoot a 3 again...ever! He is being paid to be an enforcer. He is not a wing!
Get you butt under the basket and get some freakin rebounds!
 

Rafterman

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Every player and lineup appear out of sorts. Lots of combinations but no real plan. Pope needs to find an identity and then find a lineup that can play that way. Shooting a lot of 3s isn’t the way with this group. More Dioubate at the 5 maybe.
 
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kyjeff1

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Pretty simple for Pope here. Go to the +/- from both losses and base your playing time off that. If Oweh is a big fat negative, then he sits.

Garrison should get 5 minutes a game and if he quits, fine, but that guy has no business being on the court in a UK basketball game. But Pope appears to be rewarding him with minutes. That's Pope being extremely soft.

Also, never, ever, ever play Garrison and Mo D together again. Pope played those two together in both losses constantly. Just stop, why do you think that's a good idea?

Stop the mass substitutions and my gawd, no more Mo D three point attempts. Every miss is an easy rebound and bucket for the other team.

This is terrible coaching by Pope and he is displaying just how soft he is.
 
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Other than Pope, Noah was the biggest loser last night as far as perception.
It's apparent in our losses that he's in way over his head with legit D1 competition.
The "Mountain Mamba" mystique has crashed back down to reality.

I think hes fine in the right role. Idk why pope is thrusting him into a way bigger role than he needs.
 

Farsight Clone

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The bench is your attitude adjuster so sit them

Pope needs to do this more frequently. It pissed off BBN when Cal didn't do it. So Pope needs to do it too.

I doubt he’s going to bring a guy getting paid $3million off the bench in. He absolutely should to send a message, but he won’t. Never seen a guy decline in one summer like our pre-season SEC player of the year.

Who cares? Pope is the coach. If Pope truly understands the assignment, its to win. And to win, Oweh has to come off the bench for a while until his attitude changes. He's not a team player at all. There were glimpses of it last year. And this year it's a lot worse.
 

Eastkybball

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Starters
Aberdeen
Johnson
Chandler
Kam Williams
Moreno

This gives you 4 wings and Kam can play the stretch 4. No more hogging the lane with Mo D and Garrison.

Off the Bench
Oweh
Mo D
Jelly
Garrison - 5-10 mins a game (depending on Moreno Foul trouble)


Johnson and Moreno clearly has chemistry. They need to play them together a lot.
I agree!
It would help Oweh and Garrison both and send the message. I also like that you don’t have Noah on that rotation. It was cool and everything but the guy cannot handle playing for Kentucky.
 
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Farsight Clone

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Dioubate at the 5 makes more sense than BG.
Mo D is a 4. He's too small to be a 5. HE can play big but I'd rather see Jelly at the 5 over Garrison. Because Jelly can shoot he 3 and spread out the lane if necessary.

Mo D needs to be our Dennis Rodman of the team. That SHOULD be his role.

Rebounder and scrap points based off offensive rebounds.

If I was Pope I'd call Oscar to come in from the G league and do a rebounding clinic for him.

If Mo D can start or come off the bench and average 5-8 points, 10 rebounds and 2-3 assist a game. that would be HUGE.
 

SkyPrince

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I think hes fine in the right role. Idk why pope is thrusting him into a way bigger role than he needs.
Idk what his role can be on this team.
Who creates shots for him?
He's also showing a little "Josh Carrier syndrome" in that he's a shooting machine in practice but can't shoot in games.
Looks like Perry is having the same problem as he was 1-7 on threes against Austin Peay.
Topic for another thread but you just have to shake your head at KY HS basketball.
 

Farsight Clone

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Honestly, none of them look all that great so far versus the two teams we’ve played with a pulse, but, there’s zero doibt that to build chemstry, you have to split most of the minutes down to 8-9 players.

Garrison should get mop up minutes only.

The mass subs he does, his "platoon" he doesn't have the players to do so. The lineup I proposed is one with a high powered offense that should have 1 2 1 defense for their quickness. This line up has the potential to play fast and move the ball. Oweh and Mo D should be the first subs in. Jelly should sub for Moreno.

If he's worried about strength and conditioning and resting players, that hasn't worked. We don't have the talent for 8-10 players to do. He needs to play 8 guys consistently and Garrison should be the 9th.
 
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Other than Pope, Noah was the biggest loser last night as far as perception.
It's apparent in our losses that he's in way over his head with legit D1 competition.
The "Mountain Mamba" mystique has crashed back down to reality.
The only thing I saw with his defense was Garrison failing to hedge or let him through ball screens at the elbow making him chase over. He was always in correct off ball position and one of the only ones communicating. Also kept his man off the glass. None of our players were put on an island defensively and exposed outside of Garrison in the post. Our biggest issue is communication and scheme. Our bigs don’t communicate, hedge, freeze, or switch anything. And the scheme to go under screens was fine until they hit 2-3. But you gotta go over after that. Johnson, Garrison, & Jelavic are our worst defenders and it isn’t even close.
 
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Idk what his role can be on this team.
Who creates shots for him?
He's also showing a little "Josh Carrier syndrome" in that he's a shooting machine in practice but can't shoot in games.
Looks like Perry is having the same problem as he was 1-7 on threes against Austin Peay.
Topic for another thread but you just have to shake your head at KY HS basketball.

Noah shot well last year so it isn't like he cant. His role just needs to be hustle and effort. Cant be a starting spot.
 
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Noah shot well last year so it isn't like he cant. His role just needs to be hustle and effort. Cant be a starting spot.
Yeah. His sample size is so small right now, there’s no way to know about his shooting. He’s taken 7 total threes on the season. Williams is shooting a worse percentage on double the attempts but everyone wants him to shoot. Give him some minutes to hustle & rebound and with a lineup that will actually look at the corner when they drive. Doesn’t need starters minutes but can contribute.
 

Ukwazoo3

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Starters
Aberdeen
Johnson
Chandler
Kam Williams
Moreno

This gives you 4 wings and Kam can play the stretch 4. No more hogging the lane with Mo D and Garrison.

Off the Bench
Oweh
Mo D
Jelly
Garrison - 5-10 mins a game (depending on Moreno Foul trouble)


Johnson and Moreno clearly has chemistry. They need to play them together a lot.
I like it, but I'd swap Kam out for Mo. Kam seems to be a heat check off the bench guy. Bring him in and see how he's doing that night.
 
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Farsight Clone

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I like it, but I'd swap Kam out for Mo. Kam seems to be a heat check off the bench guy. Bring him in and see how he's doing that night.
Yeah I think that can work. To me the 4 is interchangeable depending on who we play. Mo D or Williams. I am good with either.