Starting to get a bit irritated…

[Vek96]

…..with the vague injury updates from Pope. Look, these guys are getting paid. Every game has a line on it.
There should be detailed injury reports like their are in the NBA and NFl.

This is a totally different ballgame than when they were amateurs. They’re paid pro’s now. Let the public know exactly the injury and the timeline for return.

 

[Possum]

…..with the vague injury updates from Pope. Look, these guys are getting paid. Every game has a line on it.
There should be detailed injury reports like their are in the NBA and NFl.

This is a totally different ballgame than when they were amateurs. They’re paid pro’s now. Let the public know exactly the injury and the timeline for return.

When he’s asked about injuries, his responses are exactly the same as Cal’s when he was here. He never elaborates. And I don’t think it’s a HIPPA thing either.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

When he’s asked about injuries, his responses are exactly the same as Cal’s when he was here. He never elaborates. And I don’t think it’s a HIPPA thing either.

That's not true at all he speaks a lot more than Cal does about entries. Some of you are absolute with the knowledge you given and even the Have absolute at the time. The actual regular season hasn't even started yet.

 

[Possum]

That's not true at all he speaks a lot more than Cal does about entries. Some of you are absolute with the knowledge you given and even the Have absolute at the time. The actual regular season hasn't even started yet.

That’s BS. He did the same last year with Butler and Jaxson. Always the vague “we’re keeping him out tonight and hope to have him in a week or so”. To his credit, he is a little more informative with JQ’s progress but still stops short of giving us a definite timetable for his return.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

That’s BS. He did the same last year with Butler and Jaxson. Always the vague “we’re keeping him out tonight and hope to have him in a week or so”. To his credit, he is a little more informative with JQ’s progress but still stops short of giving us a definite timetable for his return.

To his credit the guys actually played or tried to play exactly when they said the timeline would be for their injuries. Both Butler and JR came back ASAP and tried to gut it out. Same goes for Carr, he had a terrible back the second half of the year and almost always suited up. No doubt Cal would have kept them out and never said a word about it.

I’d love to know exact details as would everyone but it is medical data and there are things they can’t say. I wish he had definitive timelines, but maybe even he doesn’t at this moment.

 

[sefus12]

Do you deserve to know why a guy is being kept out of an exhibition game? Or a practice? Or a regular season game for that matter? Entitled much?

 

[Phil_The_Music2]

Do you deserve to know why a guy is being kept out of an exhibition game? Or a practice? Or a regular season game for that matter? Entitled much?

I don't really see it as entitlement. Without the fans spending their money to watch the players play, these guys wouldn't be making millions to play a game or coach it. I believe that sports does owe the fans that support it. That's not entitlement, it's return on investment.

 

[Anon1755209580]

…..with the vague injury updates from Pope. Look, these guys are getting paid. Every game has a line on it.
There should be detailed injury reports like their are in the NBA and NFl.

This is a totally different ballgame than when they were amateurs. They’re paid pro’s now. Let the public know exactly the injury and the timeline for return.

Careful now. Any criticism of Pope is not allowed here.

 

[Possum]

Do you deserve to know why a guy is being kept out of an exhibition game? Or a practice? Or a regular season game for that matter? Entitled much?

What's it to you if someone's curious about our players' status? Do you think you're some kind of gatekeeper who decides what people need or don't need to know? Pretty full of yourself, huh?

 

[sefus12]

What's it to you if someone's curious about our players' status? Do you think you're some kind of gatekeeper who decides what people need or don't need to know? Pretty full of yourself, huh?

Nope. Just understand privacy rights when it comes to college kids and injuries.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Pope is way more similar to Cal with this than some want to admit. Pope just says the vague things n professional terms instead of he hasn't seen them. I didn't really have an issue with Cal, even with the smugness, and don't with Pope.

 

[Possum]

Nope. Just understand privacy rights when it comes to college kids and injuries.

Then you should have stated that instead of acting like a jerk.

 

[Kentucky15]

Careful now. Any criticism of Pope is not allowed here.

But what is to criticize? He’s over-performed with his only team after calipari gutted this program. He’s been exactly what we need, and now he’s entering his second year. What exactly do you want to critique. I’ll listen to your list if you have one and it is allowed. I just don’t know what that would be?

And I have wanted our last 3 coaches ran out of here. So I’m not a pump. Perform or leave and be replaced has always been my motto.

 

[chroix]

Our primary ball handler got injured in a completely meaningless exhibition. I get being a little gun shy for games that don’t count as a result. It starts carrying over into the regular season I might reconsider.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Isn't he just doing what all coaches do?

I mean my god.......what are people expecting here.........yeah lowe is going to be out exactly 5 days? lol.

Injuries are tricky. People react differently. Our players will be back when they are able to be back. We aren't owed anything more IMO.

 

[Crestcat]

I don't blame Pope for being vague, if he said a player would be back on a specific date and he wasn't this board would go ape.

 

[Chris Mallory]

…..with the vague injury updates from Pope. Look, these guys are getting paid. Every game has a line on it.
There should be detailed injury reports like their are in the NBA and NFl.

This is a totally different ballgame than when they were amateurs. They’re paid pro’s now. Let the public know exactly the injury and the timeline for return.

Sounds like you like to put a little wager on the games

 

[Vek96]

Sounds like you like to put a little wager on the games

Occasionally.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Careful now. Any criticism of Pope is not allowed here.

Imma give it to him when he deserves it. As of now he’s still A+… I have a few gripes about him but overall I think he’s awesome. This year needs to be better than last year.

 

[Anon1755209580]

But what is to criticize? He’s over-performed with his only team after calipari gutted this program. He’s been exactly what we need, and now he’s entering his second year. What exactly do you want to critique. I’ll listen to your list if you have one and it is allowed. I just don’t know what that would be?

And I have wanted our last 3 coaches ran out of here. So I’m not a pump. Perform or leave and be replaced has always been my motto.

Over-performed? How so? We were like 5 or 6 in the conference and made a sw16. Was the sw16 an improvement over the last few years...sure! But that really doesn't equal over-performing. We also only beat teams that were seeded lower than us, so we certainly didn't overperform our seeding.

Gutted? Everyone basically has to build a new team annually now, so that really isn't a solid excuse anymore. Not to mention the financial resources he has been given to do so.

We have had several games now under Pope that the team has lacked energy, effort and underwhelmed. I get injuries may cause losses, but they shouldn't limit effort or energy by the healthy players.

I also think Pope tends to underperform in the games we are favored. Last year, early in the season when people were underestimating us, he did well. However, later in the year, as we were viewed more highly, we tended to get tight and lose more often. Injuries are certainly a, or even the, possible factor, but that's been a pattern in Pope's coaching career. So I tend to view it as more of a coaching issue.

I like Pope. Obviously a very nice, relatively young guy. Has a nice and beautiful family. Fans seem to adore him and he seems to respect them. He has a lot of positives and I hope he ends up doing very we'll here and proving me wrong. But I do think there are obvious criticisms and I certainly think it's fair to acknowledge them.

 

[kybassfan]

Why would anyone be entitled to injury details? I don’t see what use they bc would be except to gamblers. Maybe put out false reports to mess with them.

 

[Kentucky15]

Over-performed? How so? We were like 5 or 6 in the conference and made a sw16. Was the sw16 an improvement over the last few years...sure! But that really doesn't equal over-performing. We also only beat teams that were seeded lower than us, so we certainly didn't overperform our seeding.

Gutted? Everyone basically has to build a new team annually now, so that really isn't a solid excuse anymore. Not to mention the financial resources he has been given to do so.

We have had several games now under Pope that the team has lacked energy, effort and underwhelmed. I get injuries may cause losses, but they shouldn't limit effort or energy by the healthy players.

I also think Pope tends to underperform in the games we are favored. Last year, early in the season when people were underestimating us, he did well. However, later in the year, as we were viewed more highly, we tended to get tight and lose more often. Injuries are certainly a, or even the, possible factor, but that's been a pattern in Pope's coaching career. So I tend to view it as more of a coaching issue.

I like Pope. Obviously a very nice, relatively young guy. Has a nice and beautiful family. Fans seem to adore him and he seems to respect them. He has a lot of positives and I hope he ends up doing very well here and proving me wrong. But I do think there are obvious criticisms and I certainly think it's fair to acknowledge them.

You have yet to name a legitimate criticism. He was left with an incomplete team, 1 guy, and came in late to throw a team together of dudes that were left. He beat Duke, Tennessee twice, Florida and many other really good teams that year. That was not a very good team all in all, and he did it with a banged up PG then Robinson went down. He still went sweet 16 year 1.

lol yes if you misrepresent the entire season and spin the truth to where it’s lacking all context (like key injuries) I guess you named something. In reality you still have yet to name a legitimate stone cold criticism and instead have opted to talking nonsense. I guess there’s a few opinion options in the middle, none of which are valid because we don’t know what would have happened if they’d have stayed complete.

Not a single journalist agrees with you at all btw. And this is the first I’ve heard anyone, talking heads or other fans of rivals, make the claim you’re making. That means it’s likely you don’t have a legitimate criticism in reality.

 

[UKBB4Ever]

Call it what you want. Cal is a far superior coach to Pope.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t past time for Cal to leave.

But maybe we made the wrong hire?

I think now the only way Pope wins anything is if the players overcome his coaching.

He is just not the right coach to move us forward.

I hate saying that because I like him.

It is what it is.

 

[MCIGuy]

…..with the vague injury updates from Pope. Look, these guys are getting paid. Every game has a line on it.
There should be detailed injury reports like their are in the NBA and NFl.

This is a totally different ballgame than when they were amateurs. They’re paid pro’s now. Let the public know exactly the injury and the timeline for return.

What's the benefit of that? Better gambling ?

 

[TotheMoon88]

Call it what you want. Cal is a far superior coach to Pope.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t past time for Cal to leave.

But maybe we made the wrong hire?

I think now the only way Pope wins anything is if the players overcome his coaching.

He is just not the right coach to move us forward.

I hate saying that because I like him.

It is what it is.

Were you saying the same thing after the Purdue game?

 

[notFromhere]

"Aberdeen got hurt a whole 24 hours ago. O.m.G! Why don't we know exactly what was hurt, the degree of severity, and an exact timeline for his expected return?!!" - sincerely, the degenerate gamblers that don't pay any players a dime of their money

 

[notFromhere]

I don't blame Pope for being vague, if he said a player would be back on a specific date and he wasn't this board would go ape.

The docs wouldn't even give you an exact time table, because they DON'T KNOW. People need to ask their shrinks or their mediums if they want exact dates and timetables, if they want someone to tell them things are better than they are, they should ask their significant other.

 

[notFromhere]

I don't really see it as entitlement. Without the fans spending their money to watch the players play, these guys wouldn't be making millions to play a game or coach it. I believe that sports does owe the fans that support it. That's not entitlement, it's return on investment.

Lol!

Observation of an event is not an investment vehicle. If you feel you are OWED anything, that's a you problem, AND an entitlement problem.

That's almost exactly the definition of entitlement, and those who are entitled rarely feel they are entitled.

 

[notFromhere]

I don't think coaches should ever talk about injuries to the public. It's a huge strategic disadvantage to tell people who's not available to play. They should have to prepare for their opponent without that information. It's not up to the coach to do the opponent's job for them.

It's only the gambling industry that has changed that, and that kind of influence by many different lobbies is ruining sports.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Over-performed? How so? We were like 5 or 6 in the conference and made a sw16. Was the sw16 an improvement over the last few years...sure! But that really doesn't equal over-performing. We also only beat teams that were seeded lower than us, so we certainly didn't overperform our seeding.

Gutted? Everyone basically has to build a new team annually now, so that really isn't a solid excuse anymore. Not to mention the financial resources he has been given to do so.

We have had several games now under Pope that the team has lacked energy, effort and underwhelmed. I get injuries may cause losses, but they shouldn't limit effort or energy by the healthy players.

I also think Pope tends to underperform in the games we are favored. Last year, early in the season when people were underestimating us, he did well. However, later in the year, as we were viewed more highly, we tended to get tight and lose more often. Injuries are certainly a, or even the, possible factor, but that's been a pattern in Pope's coaching career. So I tend to view it as more of a coaching issue.

I like Pope. Obviously a very nice, relatively young guy. Has a nice and beautiful family. Fans seem to adore him and he seems to respect them. He has a lot of positives and I hope he ends up doing very we'll here and proving me wrong. But I do think there are obvious criticisms and I certainly think it's fair to acknowledge them.

Rebuilding is one thing. Starting with 0 players it’s totally different.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Call it what you want. Cal is a far superior coach to Pope.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t past time for Cal to leave.

But maybe we made the wrong hire?

I think now the only way Pope wins anything is if the players overcome his coaching.

He is just not the right coach to move us forward.

I hate saying that because I like him.

It is what it is.

Cal isn’t superior to anyone in game coaching. He was pretty good sometimes, a great motivator with beyond ridiculous talent. After 2015 he was broken. I think the Fox/Monk/Bam team got him back to his best and after they were screwed he was really done. We all know Robic was the guy who made the whole thing work. Without him Cal wasn’t close to being the same kind of coach. He is way better when he has something to prove but we all know when a team isn’t scared of his talent and scouts him well he crumbles in crunch time.

 

[Anon1755209580]

You have yet to name a legitimate criticism. He was left with an incomplete team, 1 guy, and came in late to throw a team together of dudes that were left. He beat Duke, Tennessee twice, Florida and many other really good teams that year. That was not a very good team all in all, and he did it with a banged up PG then Robinson went down. He still went sweet 16 year 1.

lol yes if you misrepresent the entire season and spin the truth to where it’s lacking all context (like key injuries) I guess you named something. In reality you still have yet to name a legitimate stone cold criticism and instead have opted to talking nonsense. I guess there’s a few opinion options in the middle, none of which are valid because we don’t know what would have happened if they’d have stayed complete.

Not a single journalist agrees with you at all btw. And this is the first I’ve heard anyone, talking heads or other fans of rivals, make the claim you’re making. That means it’s likely you don’t have a legitimate criticism in reality.

Many teams were left with the same or less. He also brought 2 players with him. So, again. Not an excuse for him.

What wasn't good about them?

Winning regular season games doesn't get banners. We also had a bad loss per every good win.

What was misrepresented. I can't make you like the truth, but it's still the truth.

Lol, Many do though. Again, I'm sorry you choose to disagree. But for most they are legitimate concerns.

Again, and thank you for proving my point, for many, Pope is above any criticism.

 

[chroix]

Call it what you want. Cal is a far superior coach to Pope.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t past time for Cal to leave.

But maybe we made the wrong hire?

I think now the only way Pope wins anything is if the players overcome his coaching.

He is just not the right coach to move us forward.

I hate saying that because I like him.

It is what it is.

Damn you change with the wind. Must be exhausting.

 

[Phil_The_Music2]

Lol!

Observation of an event is not an investment vehicle. If you feel you are OWED anything, that's a you problem, AND an entitlement problem.

That's almost exactly the definition of entitlement, and those who are entitled rarely feel they are entitled.

Who's ONLY observing? And who's observing for FREE? Most of us here buy UK merchandise, buy tickets for games, contribute to K funds, NIL funds. Even if all you do is watch the games on TV, you are still spending money on some type of streaming package for it. So epic fail with that lame argument. Adding "lol" to your post doesn't make it valid. There's no entitlement here, virtually all of us spend money to support UK. And just like any other investment, it should come with certain benefits, like keeping us informed on the status of the product we are investing in.

 

[KYFOSSIL]

Damn you change with the wind. Must be exhausting.

Na... he was an idiot on the old site as well.

 

[notFromhere]

Who's ONLY observing? And who's observing for FREE? Most of us here buy UK merchandise, buy tickets for games, contribute to K funds, NIL funds. Even if all you do is watch the games on TV, you are still spending money on some type of streaming package for it. So epic fail with that lame argument. Adding "lol" to your post doesn't make it valid. There's no entitlement here, virtually all of us spend money to support UK. And just like any other investment, it should come with certain benefits, like keeping us informed on the status of the product we are investing in.

"Being owed something is based on a clear and often legal or contractual obligation, such as a debt or a paycheck for work performed. Entitlement, however, is a personality trait where a person believes they inherently deserve privileges or special treatment without having earned them, often leading to disappointment and resentment. The key difference lies in the basis for the expectation: an external, earned agreement versus an internal, often unfounded, sense of deservingness."

Show me where your ticket purchase or your NIL donation receipt says you are "owed" anything, much less the details of any athlete's injuries. They are not gladiators whose life you hold in your hands, even if you donated 1 million dollars to NIL. Those are simply your feelings. If you're pitching a hissy over injury updates, maybe your vast contributions should be brought up to the board.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but sometimes the truth does just that.

 

[Johnnie Africa]

Call it what you want. Cal is a far superior coach to Pope.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t past time for Cal to leave.

But maybe we made the wrong hire?

I think now the only way Pope wins anything is if the players overcome his coaching.

He is just not the right coach to move us forward.

I hate saying that because I like him.

It is what it is.

lol holy cow imagine a full on 3 year troll job to hit this climax there’s a good chance you might be a serial killer. You spent the last 2 years of Cal defending him claiming you were a booster and you hate Tubby. It’s actually amazing

 

[CatPatrick13]

Cal isn’t superior to anyone in game coaching.

This, although “anyone “ is a lot of people. There are some middle school coaches who could learn a thing or 2 from Cal’s floor coaching.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

This, although “anyone “ is a lot of people. There are some middle school coaches who could learn a thing or 2 from Cal’s floor coaching.

I’m sure he is better than a few coaches out there, but let’s say compared to blue bloods and major D1 team coaches he’s not elite.

 

[BlueBlood96Cat]

Call it what you want. Cal is a far superior coach to Pope.

Doesn’t mean it wasn’t past time for Cal to leave.

But maybe we made the wrong hire?

I think now the only way Pope wins anything is if the players overcome his coaching.

He is just not the right coach to move us forward.

I hate saying that because I like him.

It is what it is.

Cal isn’t the best coach x and os that is why he makes up for it by recruiting top talent. I’m glad he’s gone but at least he got top talent to help some of his in game coaching. Arkansas will have a chance at a national championship every year talent alone. They could also end up in the NIT every year.

that’s the one thing I’ll say about Cal is you always had a chance at a national championship every single year. Sometimes it didn’t work out. He should still have at least three minimum just from his time at Kentucky. Was a wild ride but glad we got a change.

part of coaching is building a roster. Acquiring talent. I always liked our rosters. He just didn’t use a lot of them right. But they are all millionaires and could care less.