Stefon Diggs taking the biblical command to be fruitful and multiply to heart

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It was confirmed via paternity test that he is the father of his ex-girlfriend's baby. He also had a child with his current gf Cardi B. With those 2, he had 4 children in 2025. It took my parents 5.5 years to accomplish that.

In unrelated news, his ex-g/f is now set for life.
 

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It was confirmed via paternity test that he is the father of his ex-girlfriend's baby. He also had a child with his current gf Cardi B. With those 2, he had 4 children in 2025. It took my parents 5.5 years to accomplish that.

In unrelated news, his ex-g/f is now set for life.
I’d hazard a guess that your parents had values, integrity, and commitment.
 

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I’d hazard a guess that your parents had values, integrity, and commitment.

We live in an amoral society. Most people, though, are compelled to behave in a somewhat moral manner to simply avoid repercussions.

When you combine amorality with unlimited financial resources, you end up with 4 kids in a year.
 

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We live in an amoral society. Most people, though, are compelled to behave in a somewhat moral manner to simply avoid repercussions.

When you combine amorality with unlimited financial resources, you end up with 4 kids in a year.
I find it sad and reprehensible that many — seemingly many more than even 50 years ago — have no moral compass.
 

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I know you guys mean well, but it's not our place to judge.
Adcoop, we will have to disagree on this.

There are absolutes whether we as a society want to acknowledge them or not. And, we are to “rightly judge” using biblical truths so we don’t fall into error. When we fail to adhere to those truths, we, as a society, will degenerate into dissipation.
 

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Adcoop, we will have to disagree on this.

There are absolutes whether we as a society want to acknowledge them or not. And, we are to “rightly judge” using biblical truths so we don’t fall into error. When we fail to adhere to those truths, we, as a society, will degenerate into dissipation.
I fully agree, but I don't think you even have to get biblical about this (though it is the final authority).

A dude fathering 4 kids in a year by different women is obviously wrong on the face of it. For the record, he has 6 kids total by 6 different women.
 

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Adcoop, we will have to disagree on this.

There are absolutes whether we as a society want to acknowledge them or not. And, we are to “rightly judge” using biblical truths so we don’t fall into error. When we fail to adhere to those truths, we, as a society, will degenerate into dissipation.
I am not disagreeing with you on whether the act is sinful, just reminding you of something that you I know you are aware. Its fine for you to hold the man accountable, but its God's place to judge. Diggs has done what he is done. So, hopefully he takes care of those babies. Also, to judge society as a whole is worse. You can look at any period of time and there was plenty of sin going around.
 

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I fully agree, but I don't think you even have to get biblical about this (though it is the final authority).

A dude fathering 4 kids in a year by different women is obviously wrong on the face of it. For the record, he has 6 kids total by 6 different women.
For the record, I didn't see you as judging the man or society. That is why I didn't respond to you. It's a slippery slope though when you discuss the problems of others. We as humans tend to slip into judgement and that is where I think we go wrong. Heck, I have done it. So, I am not saying this trying to be better than anyone else. Just sending out a reminder that you can easily slip into judgment and have to be held into account for that.
 
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Adcoop, we will have to disagree on this.

There are absolutes whether we as a society want to acknowledge them or not. And, we are to “rightly judge” using biblical truths so we don’t fall into error. When we fail to adhere to those truths, we, as a society, will degenerate into dissipation.

Saw a very good Charlie Kirk short on this topic recently. The misuse of "he who is without sin cast the first stone" being used to try to convince people not to judge or call out sin. But he brought up the next part, which is often left off, "go and sin no more".

On a similar topic, he had a good one on moral relativism, and how dangerous it can be.

The gist, there is universal truth, there is universal good and evil.
 
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Saw a very good Charlie Kirk short on this topic recently. The misuse of "he who is without sin cast the first stone" being used to try to convince people not to judge or call out sin. But he brought up the next part, which is often left off, "go and sin no more".

On a similar topic, he had a good one on moral relativism, and how dangerous it can be.

The gist, there is universal truth, there is universal good and evil.
Yes. I don't think it's the point Adcoop is making, but, yeah, the Bible doesn't "never judge anyone".

The passage "Judge not lest ye be judged" does NOT mean "don't draw conclusions about people's behavior based on biblical principles". It uses the word "judge" in the sense of condemning a person to final judgment. Christians are certainly called to be discerning and that involves judging...identifying certain behaviors as sin. We are not called to condemn people...in the sense of passing final judgment. That is God's duty alone. In the passage you are referring to of the woman caught in adultery, the Pharisees wanted to pass final judgment and stone her to death. It would surely have been fine to identify her action as sin and condemn the sin and call her to repentance. We are cautioned by Jesus not to "cast stones" because before God we are all sinners deserving of the ultimate judgment.

But surely, one of the main functions of Christians in the world is to identify and decry sin (letting our line shine). As you suggest, too many people (even some professing Christians) overlook any nature of gross sin, wrongly citing "judge not lest ye be judged" and applying it as "hey, who am I to say what's sin and what's not?".
 

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Yes. I don't think it's the point Adcoop is making, but, yeah, the Bible doesn't "never judge anyone".

The passage "Judge not lest ye be judged" does NOT mean "don't draw conclusions about people's behavior based on biblical principles". It uses the word "judge" in the sense of condemning a person to final judgment. Christians are certainly called to be discerning and that involves judging...identifying certain behaviors as sin. We are not called to condemn people...in the sense of passing final judgment. That is God's duty alone. In the passage you are referring to of the woman caught in adultery, the Pharisees wanted to pass final judgment and stone her to death. It would surely have been fine to identify her action as sin and condemn the sin and call her to repentance. We are cautioned by Jesus not to "cast stones" because before God we are all sinners deserving of the ultimate judgment.

But surely, one of the main functions of Christians in the world is to identify and decry sin (letting our line shine).

Maybe we disagree. I think thats exactly what he was trying to say. But was content to address 1801 so as to avoid a meltdown.

Otherwise, agree completely with your post.
 
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It was confirmed via paternity test that he is the father of his ex-girlfriend's baby. He also had a child with his current gf Cardi B. With those 2, he had 4 children in 2025. It took my parents 5.5 years to accomplish that.

In unrelated news, his ex-g/f is now set for life.
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Maybe we disagree. I think thats exactly what he was trying to say. But was content to address 1801 so as to avoid a meltdown.

Otherwise, agree completely with your post.
Thanks, but have no fear, I would not have had a meltdown nor continued to argue. When it comes to serious matters dealing with theology, I won’t back down on the truth of Gods Word but I also won’t beat someone to death if they don’t agree.
 

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From whence does correction come if no one expresses what is wrong or what is correct? My preacher judges me every week, and I appreciate it.
Exactly. It’s impossible not to judge. We make 1,000’s of judgements every day without even thinking about it. We do the same with people and situations, regardless if we voice our judgments. Read Matthew 7 on the topic of judgments. We are absolutely to judge, but to judge righteously.

That issue is are we living right ourselves, and looking to call people to living Biblical? If not, then our judgment is in error. A good test for our heart is our judgment out of love or condemnation? I know when my kids are wrong…I can’t simply ignore that. I judge and come along side them to make the correction.

The world continues to mess this up, but then again why would we expect the world to know better? I certainly messed it up before recognizing the truth.
 

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Thanks, but have no fear, I would not have had a meltdown nor continued to argue. When it comes to serious matters dealing with theology, I won’t back down on the truth of Gods Word but I also won’t beat someone to death if they don’t agree.

Sorry, misunderstanding. I replied to you because I knew you could handle it. There is another, fragile poster who would have had a melt down had I replied to him.

And i commend you for that post. I would hope I could emulate it in life.
 
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In unrelated news, his ex-g/f is now set for life.
Well, she's set for as long as he has the money to pay.

Given the amount of money these guys make, it seems unfathomable to us that they can lose it all, but he would not be the first to do so. And multiple kids with multiple women is one of the most common contributors to losing it all.
 

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It's not a perfect world. People are not perfect. I know I'm not. But, I'll tell you one thing about me: I'm a one-woman man, God was definitely looking after me when he connected me to my wife, And I almost made the mistake of a lifetime nearly letting her get away. SMH. I got lucky. As a late, old friend of mine often said: it's better to be lucky than to be good.
 

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I am not disagreeing with you on whether the act is sinful, just reminding you of something that you I know you are aware. Its fine for you to hold the man accountable, but its God's place to judge. Diggs has done what he is done. So, hopefully he takes care of those babies. Also, to judge society as a whole is worse. You can look at any period of time and there was plenty of sin going around.
Sorry, Scripture says a righteous man judges all things.... It says to try the spirits whether they be of God.

There are two jobs a judge does, sir. One - they lay the book of law out and based off of that, they tell whether a man is right or wrong based on that law -we must do this as Christians. Two - they cast judgement - because you have done this, you will have this punishment... (This is what we must not do as Christians) - we don't have to judge a person... God's word does that for us.
 
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I know you guys mean well, but it's not our place to judge.
I'm almost certain, if they were actually 100% honest and candid......that they, in fact, DON'T mean well. You know exactly what these guys look and sound like in real life. I don't even have to be specific and you know what I'm talking about.
 
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I'm almost certain, if they were actually 100% honest and candid......that they, in fact, DON'T mean well. You know exactly what these guys look and sounds like in real life. I don't even have to be specific and you know what I'm talking about.

Typical, almost cliche. Just surprised it was someone else who said it before the usual poster.
 
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I'm almost certain, if they were actually 100% honest and candid......that they, in fact, DON'T mean well. You know exactly what these guys look and sounds like in real life. I don't even have to be specific and you know what I'm talking about.

I'm not sure you need to be a specific type of person to see an issue with a guy fathering 4 children in a single calendar year by 4 different women (and 6 kids with 6 different women overall). You just have to be a human being with a minimal baseline of morality or even just a smidge of common sense.

At least 5 of those kids will grow up without their biological father in the home, and likely not even in their lives at all. One man with 6 kids by 6 different women cannot possibly be involved in all of their lives.

Study after study after study has shown that children have the best outcomes when they grow up with their father and mother in the home. Society is thrown into disarray by children being raised in single parent homes. At least 5 of these kids, and frankly probably all 6 are going to grow up without their biological father. They are disadvantaged from the outset. And society ultimately feels the effects of it.
 
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