Still wondering what happened between Florida and Aberdeen

[PoBilly]

Relax there buddy. Don’t get so emotional and come on with the personal stuff.

Aberdeen wasn’t going to replace Clayton. Period. He’s a good player but he has isn’t the elite player they are actively tried to obtain. It’s that simple. Can Aberdeen get better? Of course but I’m a realist and he’s a dynamic role player. An extremely important piece for us but if he’s the pg at florida next year they probably struggle to be a top 25 team. They are putting their resources in a big way toward an elite player. Don’t get so caught up on the term “ceiling”. The bottom line is he was not replacing WC Jr.

Agree but will add this, he did start 4 or 5 games for Florida when one of the starters was hurt, Shot 41% from three in those games and had 2 over 20 points, averaged 14ppg. Too small a subset to get a reading. If he did start for UK this year and can provide an average of 14ppg then he would have done his job.

 

[Wildcats1st]

Agree but will add this, he did start 4 or 5 games for Florida when one of the starters was hurt, Shot 41% from three in those games and had 2 over 20 points, averaged 14ppg. Too small a subset to get a reading. If he did start for UK this year and can provide an average of 14ppg then he would have done his job.

I think Aberdeen is gonna be great for us. I’m excited about him. He is fresh off a title and will bring a winners mentality.

 

[Wildcats1st]

You seem to think players can’t improve on their skillset even when I gave you an example of WCjr actually doing just that from Iona to Florida. You’re evaluating talent from the confines of your couch. Get over yourself.

Everything from you are personal shots for some reason. Listen if Aberdeen was the next wcjr UF wouldn’t have let his get away. In my opinion our roster as a whole has a much much higher ceiling than last year. I think aberdeen is gonna be great for us. I hope he pushes Lowe for the starter spot. And I really don’t sit on a couch fyi and I have an injury so the confines of my standing position, or from my toilet, lol you’re the only person alive to think Aberdeen is the next wcjr. But look I hope you are right. Ciao guy

 

[Calikid]

Honestly that guy would have a motive to not be truthful. He would say yeah it's the greedy guy's fault who's the bad guy and not Florida's fault at all...

Lol, why would he lie? Aberdeen got paid reportedly $2 million by UK, nobody on UF's roster was paid $2 million last year. They weren't even paying their starting QB that kind of $. Nobody is saying Aberdeen is greedy, the salaries this year have ballooned. That's why Miami paid $2 million for a QB last year and $4 million for a QB this year. The Tennessee QB was asking for $4 million for this season. Do you think Brea was paid $2 million last year as a transfer? Or Oweh? But Aberdeen is. That's the change in the market and UF was reportedly not willing to pay Aberdeen that amount. That's not a knock on him, just the reality of the situation.

 

[Calikid]

No offense intended but that’s not a link. That’s he said, she said. Can you give us actual proof this is what took place?

Lol, is anyone providing actual proof of NIL contracts? If so, please show me one.

 

[jessieshorts8]

Lol, is anyone providing actual proof of NIL contracts? If so, please show me one.

That's kind of the point. None of us know what anyone is really getting as everyone involved players,agents schools have motives to be dishonest about it.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

Florida do not seem to lack of money (they seem to be in driver seat for Fland)

And Aberdeen was a local kid for them

So what happened between the program and Aberdeen, in theory, Florida has enough money to pay for Aberdeen

Florida took for granted that Aberdeen wanted to be … and would remain… a Gator.
They did not make a competitive offer, underestimating Aberdeen’s willingness to leave.
And it bit Florida in the ***.

 

[Calikid]

That's kind of the point. None of us know what anyone is really getting as everyone involved players,agents schools have motives to be dishonest about it.

If they're willing to pay for Boogie Fland, they could've easily paid for Aberdeen. Let's not make it seem like they don't have the $. I'd assume almost everyone on here would say Fland is a better player than Aberdeen. That's what UF is willing to pay more $ for, the better player. This isn't some outlandish situation where someone needs to be dishonest about paying a former 6th man on a roster.

 

[GainesvilleGreen]

It’s simple: he and his pops overplayed their hand with Florida (we have roster building NIL, not FU money), and Kentucky was the beneficiary given they had the money to pay big time starter money on what had been a role player till this point..

If he’s not even starting at UK, it will seem short sighted, but we’ll see how it all shakes out..

 

[TheAnonymous13]

It’s simple: he and his pops overplayed their hand with Florida (we have roster building NIL, not FU money), and Kentucky was the beneficiary given they had the money to pay big time starter money on what had been a role player till this point..

If he’s not even starting at UK, it will seem short sighted, but we’ll see how it all shakes out..

With respect, Florida underplayed its hand. Aberdeen was offered significantly less than his “market value”. He would have opted for less at Florida, but it needed to be within range.

 

[GainesvilleGreen]

With respect, Florida underplayed its hand. Aberdeen was offered significantly less than his “market value”. He would have opted for less at Florida, but it needed to be within range.

You can believe that if you’d like, but I’m not going to question Golden’s roster construction and the value they put on a player.

Others would say UK overpaid.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

You can believe that if you’d like, but I’m not going to question Golden’s roster construction and the value they put on a player.

Others would say UK overpaid.

I am not questioning Golden’s roster construction or the decision to let him move on. There is a difference between “value” and “market value”. It is an indisputable fact that Florida offered Aberdeen less than his “market value”. This is why he was able to go elsewhere and receive more. In fact, Kentucky was not Aberdeen‘s highest offer.

 

[chasingwildcat]

Florida has money
But probably Florida thinks aberdeen does not worth the price..

 

[Padsfs07]

If they're willing to pay for Boogie Fland, they could've easily paid for Aberdeen. Let's not make it seem like they don't have the $. I'd assume almost everyone on here would say Fland is a better player than Aberdeen. That's what UF is willing to pay more $ for, the better player. This isn't some outlandish situation where someone needs to be dishonest about paying a former 6th man on a roster.

Ironically, I would say Aberdeen is a better fit for Florida than Fland with Lee in the fold. Same with UK and Lowe, I'd prefer Aberdeen.

I guess we will see who is a better college player this year. They are really close offensively when you take them at the same minutes per game.

NIL-wise, it's easier to get the big donors to 'pony up' for the new shiny toy, than the one already there.

 

[Calikid]

Ironically, I would say Aberdeen is a better fit for Florida than Fland with Lee in the fold. Same with UK and Lowe, I'd prefer Aberdeen.

I guess we will see who is a better college player this year. They are really close offensively when you take them at the same minutes per game.

NIL-wise, it's easier to get the big donors to 'pony up' for the new shiny toy, than the one already there.

I think Fland probably presents more upside for Florida. Aberdeen is probably the safer bet for most teams, but a talent like Fland is tough to pass up. I'm sure that's what Golden is banking on. He could have a lineup of Fland, Lee, Haugh, Condon and Chinyelu. Not many teams will have more talent than that in their starting 5.

 

[Padsfs07]

I think Fland probably presents more upside for Florida. Aberdeen is probably the safer bet for most teams, but a talent like Fland is tough to pass up. I'm sure that's what Golden is banking on. He could have a lineup of Fland, Lee, Haugh, Condon and Chinyelu. Not many teams will have more talent than that in their starting 5.

That's definitely true. Well stated. Golden also has the latitude to swing for the fences here after just winning a championship.

 

[Anon1633533198]

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[GainesvilleGreen]

I am not questioning Golden’s roster construction or the decision to let him move on. There is a difference between “value” and “market value”. It is an indisputable fact that Florida offered Aberdeen less than his “market value”. This is why he was able to go elsewhere and receive more. In fact, Kentucky was not Aberdeen‘s highest offer.

His market value was $2M to only a very few select teams, UK being one..

FL knew his game better than anyone and disagreed, and there is very little actual data to support that number.

If we had FU money, he’d still be on the team though.

What you’ll learn is that he’s a good spot up shooter, driver, defender, but tends to over dribble with the ball in his hand, and isn’t an assist guy. A good key contributor, but not a star. I hope for his sake that he hasn’t put too much pressure on himself by taking the bag instead of staying in the system he knows.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

His market value was $2M to only a very few select teams, UK being one..

FL knew his game better than anyone and disagreed, and there is very little actual data to support that number.

If we had FU money, he’d still be on the team though.

What you’ll learn is that he’s a good spot up shooter, driver, defender, but tends to over dribble with the ball in his hand, and isn’t an assist guy. A good key contributor, but not a star. I hope for his sake that he hasn’t put too much pressure on himself by taking the bag instead of staying in the system he knows.

I know the exact numbers Aberdeen was offered by Florida; what he asked of Florida; what others offered; and what he received at UK.
Wether or not any of these NIL deals reflect “true value” is debatable. But I assure you, Florida offered less than “market value”, and I am not determining that by “select few”, but the overall NIL landscape.
I am not judging Florida’s offer, decisions or roster construction. The only opinion I’ll give here is that I think Aberdeen is a better player than your post might suggest. And though I’ve watched his entire career, including before Mike White brought him to Florida - it is just opinion.