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kik84

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Well, June 29 I was up $8k. I guess I’m rich.

Bugs Bunny Money GIF by Looney Tunes
 

AndyHeel

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What do people think of SpaceX and the pending OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs? SpaceX has had a ton of volatility opening at $150, rising to $200, and now around $115. I got some at $157 and $135 to hold long term.

With OpenAI and Anthropic they are the AI duopoly at this point with the most users and revenue. Open models are getting a lot of talk with the recent Kimi K3 release and have potential as companies get concerns about token cost. However, I don't think most companies trust Chinese models or have the expertise in-house to configure and use the open models as their primary strategy. I like a mixture of experts approach where there is an LLM router or orchestrator that routes requests to the right model based which is more cost effective than simply using the most powerful frontier models for everything.

Thoughts?
 
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kik84

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What do people think of SpaceX and the pending OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs? SpaceX has had a ton of volatility opening at $150, rising to $200, and now around $115. I got some at $157 and $135 to hold long term.

With OpenAI and Anthropic they are the AI duopoly at this point with the most users and revenue. Open models are getting a lot of talk with the recent Kimi K3 release and have potential as companies get concerns about token cost. However, I don't think most companies trust Chinese models or have the expertise in-house to configure and use the open models as their primary strategy. I like a mixture of experts approach where there is an LLM router or orchestrator that routes requests to the right model based which is more cost effective than simply using the most powerful frontier models for everything.

Thoughts?
Kimi K3 is a stolen product, the result of model distillation.
 
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kik84

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NASDAQ up over 2% today. Some huge moves in semis, AI, and AI-adjacent stocks.
 

GregBarnes

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Another amazing day. Indices at all-time highs.
Fascinating read here on investing at all-time highs:

"Buying at record highs has historically produced very good returns. History shows the S&P 500 was higher one year after hitting a record 81% of the time, with an average one-year return of nearly 14%. Extend the holding period to five years, and stocks were higher 86% of the time, with annual returns of 10%."

 

kik84

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Fascinating read here on investing at all-time highs:

"Buying at record highs has historically produced very good returns. History shows the S&P 500 was higher one year after hitting a record 81% of the time, with an average one-year return of nearly 14%. Extend the holding period to five years, and stocks were higher 86% of the time, with annual returns of 10%."

Buy high. Buy higher.
 

kik84

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Great day for the market. Nvida and Saleforce blowout earnings.

I knew all the gloom and doom for SaaS companies like Salesforce was overblown, and never sold my Salesforce shares. Benioff is one of the great CEOs.
 

Hugh J Hoal

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gambled wrong on AVGO earnings. Opened some open-wing call butterflies expecting earnings bump. Boo. oh well. On to the next one.
 

kik84

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gambled wrong on AVGO earnings. Opened some open-wing call butterflies expecting earnings bump. Boo. oh well. On to the next one.

How difficult is it to get approval from a brokerage for options trading?
 

Hugh J Hoal

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varies by brokerage but most are just answering some questions on your knowledge and experience. There's no fact checking that i'm aware of, so you can answer however you want. Usually they'll grant only Level 1 or Level 2 initially, then you can re-apply for level 3 after you have some transactions under your belt. I manage my MIL's ROTH through Schwab and they wont let me go above Level 1 unless i talk to them on the phone, which i cant do since the account isnt in my name.
 
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kik84

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varies by brokerage but most are just answering some questions on your knowledge and experience. There's no fact checking that i'm aware of, so you can answer however you want. Usually they'll grant only Level 1 or Level 2 initially, then you can re-apply for level 3 after you have some transactions under your belt. I manage my MIL's ROTH through Schwab and they wont let me go above Level 1 unless i talk to them on the phone, which i cant do since the account isnt in my name.
Thank you.
 
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