Stone Lizzard's Playoff System - with my twist

[JCHILLTOPPERS]

First, It's the post of the year.

Second, I don't know whether that means 2016, 2017, the 2016 football year, or the 2017 football year.

Third, I would have only one change. The change is based on my long running belief that a team from X year should not be impacted by the team from Y year. Their successes and failures ARE mutually exclusive.

So, the only change I would make is the following. Instead of complicating the formula by using numerous years, to classify teams for the playoffs I would:

A) Reduce the classes in the preseason to six, by enrollment, and figure out some way to do that with the CPS as well - that I leave to people more in the know.

B) Then, during the season, employ Lizzard's power point formula.

C) At the end of the season, divide the playoff qualifiers by points by six.

D) Finally, after these six classes are calculated, I would add to every team's power point score 6, 5,4,3,2,1 for every win over a team from the respective six classes, and add one point to each teams' power point score for a loss to a playoff qualifiying team.

E) Then i would re-order the 6 classes by the new score and seed them the same.

Maybe I'll put this together to see how it looks.

I just really do not like using past performance as a present standard. This also gives us a neo-football enrollment.

 

[stonedlizard]

First, It's the post of the year.

Second, I don't know whether that means 2016, 2017, the 2016 football year, or the 2017 football year.

Third, I would have only one change. The change is based on my long running belief that a team from X year should not be impacted by the team from Y year. Their successes and failures ARE mutually exclusive.

So, the only change I would make is the following. Instead of complicating the formula by using numerous years, to classify teams for the playoffs I would:

A) Reduce the classes in the preseason to six, by enrollment, and figure out some way to do that with the CPS as well - that I leave to people more in the know.

B) Then, during the season, employ Lizzard's power point formula.

C) At the end of the season, divide the playoff qualifiers by points by six.

D) Finally, after these six classes are calculated, I would add to every team's power point score 6, 5,4,3,2,1 for every win over a team from the respective six classes, and add one point to each teams' power point score for a loss to a playoff qualifiying team.

E) Then i would re-order the 6 classes by the new score and seed them the same.

Maybe I'll put this together to see how it looks.

I just really do not like using past performance as a present standard. This also gives us a neo-football enrollment.

Thanks for the kind words.

A question for you. What do you do with a team like Rochester, SHG, Phillips or Montini? Do you think they should move up as they continue to show high levels of success in a given class? I'm not sure how to do that without incorporating some level of historical look back.

I personally like the success factor (I consider it a success promotion) in theory, but not in it's current practice.

If you're going to go through the effort of modeling your system, would propose picking a handful of teams to test the hypothesis. I originally used Loyola, Taft, Montini, Rochester, Hinsdale South, Westinghouse and Byron to get a sense of how they would fall under what I eventually posted. Will be posting the full data set from 2014-2016 shortly which should save you some time.

 

[Snetsrak61]

You've essentially described something similar to Football enrollment right?

Rather than looking at a top performing team, flip it around. Using lizards system an underperforming program like Morton would eventually see their classification drop. But if the clock resets each year, the power points for playing them will always be worth that of another 8A team, even a top performing one like Loyola. So rather than power points with wins losses, wouldn't you end up in the same spot with tootball enrollment and the current playoff point system?