Stoops left the cupboard bare

Pensacola_Cat_Fan

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Stein and team has their work cutout for them. We didn’t see much talent on the field last year and even less is coming back. Thrilled with the hiring focus on recruiting. We could have the best coaches in the world and suck if we don’t start getting better players. Not expecting much next year, but hopefully we’ll start attracting players that can compete with the big boys before long.
 

Bluetick2100

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Stein and team has their work cutout for them. We didn’t see much talent on the field last year and even less is coming back. Thrilled with the hiring focus on recruiting. We could have the best coaches in the world and suck if we don’t start getting better players. Not expecting much next year, but hopefully we’ll start attracting players that can compete with the big boys before long.
Yet he managed to win 5 games with the 6th most difficult schedule and conference in all of college FB.
 

satcheluk

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Stein and team has their work cutout for them. We didn’t see much talent on the field last year and even less is coming back. Thrilled with the hiring focus on recruiting. We could have the best coaches in the world and suck if we don’t start getting better players. Not expecting much next year, but hopefully we’ll start attracting players that can compete with the big boys before long.
I disagree with this sentiment. When teams are losing, there's typically going to be a dip in recruiting. There is a lot of young talent on the team, though the incoming recruiting class was absolutely substandard, but the main reason for that was that he was on the hot seat. This staff seems to be much more recruiting focused and with a history of bringing in talent above UK's typical avg, so we will see how many players they keep and who they are able to snare in the portal.
 

UKSanders

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LOL, he beat a Auburn team that quit, a Florida team with no head coach, a decent TENNESSEE TECH team. 3 cupcakes+ 2 teams that quit. What a beast.
To be fair, even though I'm not a moral victory guy, I think looking at competitiveness in both wins and losses can be taken into consideration when it comes to talent potential. With that in mind, the was also very competitive against Ole Miss and Texas.

I think many fans would say coaching (or lack thereof) is what cost the team a win in those games. So, if that's remotely true, that means there WAS some decent talent on the roster. Otherwise, if the was zero talent AND poor coaching, the games wouldn't have even been close.

That gives me hope that there is at least a decent foundation for Stein & Co. to build from. Good thing, too, because the 2026 schedule doesn't look any friendlier than the one in 2025.
 

RunninRichie

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To be fair, even though I'm not a moral victory guy, I think looking at competitiveness in both wins and losses can be taken into consideration when it comes to talent potential. With that in mind, the was also very competitive against Ole Miss and Texas.

I think many fans would say coaching (or lack thereof) is what cost the team a win in those games. So, if that's remotely true, that means there WAS some decent talent on the roster. Otherwise, if the was zero talent AND poor coaching, the games wouldn't have even been close.

That gives me hope that there is at least a decent foundation for Stein & Co. to build from. Good thing, too, because the 2026 schedule doesn't look any friendlier than the one in 2025.
I don't buy we had zero talent either. We had decent talent. And some spots we didnt. Coaching was always the issue under Stoops. But pumping that Stoops won 5 games is hilarious. Look who he beat.


Stoops could have had wins over 2 wins over Ole Miss, Texas and UGA in the last 2 years. If wasn't a piss poor field coach.
 

will.ksr

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I'm not sure I get what the OP is going for. As far as the OL and ILB groups go...Stoops was going to have to rebuild both of those position groups too. He'd have to replace WR1 and RB1 too.
 

WildcatofNati2

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So I guess when those teams beat us, they downplayed the win
My guess is that, yeah, fans of opposing teams do kind of downplay the win. For example, last year, when the Florida fanbase wanted Napier's head, I doubt the few remaining supporters were using the win against Kentucky as Exhibit 1 for the case to keep him.
 

Skyguyb27

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If you compare talent nation wide to a wide variety of levels of talent there was some talent there. If you want to be top tier in the SEC then no the talent wasn’t there to do that even they had good coaching (although the record would be much better).
 

KYWC36

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I actually think this roster, depending on who stays, has some hidden talent. Its one of the things I didn't like about stoops and his staff, if you weren't a 4th year Junior, they didn't like to play you. There are some exceptions, but for the most part that held true
 
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Bluetick2100

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This guy won a total of four games against SEC teams that finished above .500 in his 13 year career. His entire career has been based off of beating bad teams.
4-1 vs Florida in last 5 years. I suppose they were all bad Florida teams even those that were ranked. Easy to dismiss what Stoops accomplished at UK. Last 6 coaches at UK without back to back winning seasons. Multi 10 win seasons. Broke 31 winning streak vs Florida. Remember the 0-10-1 season? How about the 50-0 halftime leads by Florida. Or the 8 straight bowl games? UIK FB has sucked since the Bear was run off. Stoops did more for UKFB than any coach in UK history. I know, haven't missed a game since the Bear's last season. But haters going to hate just like you and several other haters here. Hope the next coach as much success as Stoops had but I doubt he will. Doubt UK will have a 6 win season in the next 5 years. I'm not buying the hype, much like Pope until I see results.
 
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HeismanWinner

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4-1 vs Florida in last 5 years. I suppose they were all bad Florida teams even those that were ranked. Easy to dismiss what Stoops accomplished at UK. Last 6 coaches at UK without back to back winning seasons. Multi 10 win seasons. Broke 31 winning streak vs Florida. Remember the 0-10-1 season? How about the 50-0 halftime leads by Florida. Or the 8 straight bowl games? UIK FB has sucked since the Bear was run off. Stoops did more for UKFB than any coach in UK history. I know, haven't missed a game since the Bear's last season. But haters going to hate just like you and several other haters here. Hope the next coach as much success as Stoops had but I doubt he will. Doubt UK will have a 6 win season in the next 5 years. I'm not buying the hype, much like Pope until I see results.
I just told you that they were bad teams. You get hung up on the name or the ranking they may have had at the time. I'm telling you how they finished which shows the composite of the team for that season.

Florida Football during those seasons

2025- 4-8, 2-6
2023 5-7, 3-5
2022 5-7, 3-5
2021 6-7, 2-6
2018 10-3, 5-3

Only one of those Florida teams was good.

It's also not that dificult to get bowl games when you only need six wins and you can schedule three OOC cupcake games. Then you just needed to beat Vandy and another two bad teams and POOF! Bowl eligible!
 

Bluetick2100

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I just told you that they were bad teams. You get hung up on the name or the ranking they may have had at the time. I'm telling you how they finished which shows the composite of the team for that season.

Florida Football during those seasons

2025- 4-8, 2-6
2023 5-7, 3-5
2022 5-7, 3-5
2021 6-7, 2-6
2018 10-3, 5-3

Only one of those Florida teams was good.

It's also not that dificult to get bowl games when you only need six wins and you can schedule three OOC cupcake games. Then you just needed to beat Vandy and another two bad teams and POOF! Bowl eligible!
And Florida were all loaded with many , many more 5* player than UK ever dreamed about. Just proves my point about Stoops with much less talent to work with. Thanks.
 

UK4Life#9

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And Florida were all loaded with many , many more 5* player than UK ever dreamed about. Just proves my point about Stoops with much less talent to work with. Thanks.

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LOL, he beat a Auburn team that quit, a Florida team with no head coach, a decent TENNESSEE TECH team. 3 cupcakes+ 2 teams that quit. What a beast.

A Florida team that creamed fl state and an Auburn team that fought in every game. The team quit vs ul but there is no discounting those wins.

In terms of cupboard, the OL is really the only massive situation. Even so, we only have an OT and we're good to go. Everything else is covered.

On d, we need an upgrade at cb but most of our guys last year were young.

So, we can always use improvement but stoops left us in decent shape.
 

3 Putts

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If we can put together a line then Stein will get the athletes for his up tempo offense, receivers want their touches. My worry is bringing in enough guys to fill the holes for the back seven, maybe the secondary was coaching but they were by far our worst unit this season.
 
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If we can put together a line then Stein will get the athletes for his up tempo offense, receivers want their touches. My worry is bringing in enough guys to fill the holes for the back seven, maybe the secondary was coaching but they were by far our worst unit this season.

Other than stoops first year or two, this was easily the worst talent level in the back half of the defense.

Two undersized lbrs, one who was a corner. A cb who was just awful. Another that is promising but would never play. One good safety. One solid safety. Then a bunch of really young guys.

It was really bad.
 

Plenge65

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we had a few coaches that didn't do a whole lot. I think it became a good old boys club. Saw ZERO development on the O-line. Buffalo's group didn't look too good. Our special teams coach sucked. I think Hartline did more for our QBs than the QB coach. Did Mike Stoops even coach anyone? Hopefully we will have coaches that are engaged with the team, not just cashing paychecks. I never understood how a WR for another team could get so wide open against us, DBs not even in the same frame. And then it looked like their DBs were jackets on our WRs.
 
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we had a few coaches that didn't do a whole lot. I think it became a good old boys club. Saw ZERO development on the O-line. Buffalo's group didn't look too good. Our special teams coach sucked. I think Hartline did more for our QBs than the QB coach. Did Mike Stoops even coach anyone? Hopefully we will have coaches that are engaged with the team, not just cashing paychecks. I never understood how a WR for another team could get so wide open against us, DBs not even in the same frame. And then it looked like their DBs were jackets on our WRs.

I never understood the buffano hate. His entire time, safety was one of, if not the, strongest position group on d. Dude literally put safeties in the nfl every year. That's no small feat at uk.

Collins on the other hand never impressed me. He let jq line up way too far off and always start with a backpedal. That's insane and they never corrected it in two years. Plus somehow hed still get beat deep lol.

Agree on mike stoops and posted as much when we hired him. I think he was fine as a stop gap, but we stayed on a gradual decline at ilb.