STOOPS on Towles goal line interception: "that was a run play"

[dnabbott25]

!!!! What!!!
He said that was a run play, "patrick decided to throw it, but that was a run play"... "we called a run, but patruck has the ability to change if he wants, it was supposed to be a run, but pat decided to throw it, i dont know why, it was a run play" Patrick is just not an SEC qb
!!!!! The end. Put pat at backup tightend

 

[dnabbott25]

On the post game radio with leach

 

[AirRaidFan_rivals164446]

Heard that. Stoops is delusional.

 

[rmattox]

The fade to the corner of the endzone should be banned. While I believe he needs to leave the OC alone and let him call the game, that one play should not be in the playbook.

 

[turismo3088]

!!!! What!!!
He said that was a run play, "patrick decided to throw it, but that was a run play"... "we called a run, but patruck has the ability to change if he wants, it was supposed to be a run, but pat decided to throw it, i font know why, it was a run play"
!!!!! The end. Put pat at backup tightend

And yet you stick with him at QB? Mark?

 

[dnabbott25]

The fade to the corner of the endzone should be banned. While I believe he needs to leave the OC alone and let him call the game, that one play should not be in the playbook.

You can tell that Stoops wanted to say more but he didn't. He did say listen, there were alot of things we were supposed to go one way but it went another way. Hes trying to say guys were screwing up (pat).

 

[rmattox]

I've been in Towles' corner, and after seeing Barker, I'm straddling the fence. If Towles made that call, that shows poor judgement and an unrealistic assessment of your abilities. Watch a hundred football games. Count the number of times the fade is thrown, then count the number of times it's completed. Even the pro's can't throw it right every time. That particular pass has to be absolutely perfect to work. Joe Namath himself probably couldn't complete 50%.

 

[gamecockcat]

Patrick has proven to me that he does not consistently make the right decisions. There was a really good breakdown of Manziel vs. the Bengals the other day that showed several good and bad plays. The breakdown of even the good plays showed how not getting the ball out soon enough, not throwing to the right guy, not leading the receiver ends up NET costing your team yards (say PT completes a 5-yard pass to WR when TE is open for 11 yards - NET loss of 6 yards). There have been several plays each and every game that even I, an unschooled, die-hard fan of CFB, can see that he threw to the wrong guy or at the wrong time or threw behind a receiver and COST the team yards. For a RS Jr who has started 20 games now, it's inexcusable for him to be making the same mistakes. On him AND on the coaching staff to believe that he'll stop making them. He is what he is and it's not going to get any better.

Barker with some seasoning MAY be better. The WRs certainly seemed to try harder when he was in there. Bad decision on the pick 6 but that's totally inexperience showing. PT is now 9 TDs and 13 Ints this year and only completing 50+% of his throws. And how many of them are bubble screens, slants, hitches, etc. where the throw is very, very short? OK, there's been drops. But, he just isn't accurate. Couple that with very questionable decisions, you just can't start him anymore.

 

[fabcat]

If that's the case then it's on him for playing him after that and then bringing him back. That is about as weak as his coaching decisions tonight. And if he has lost control of his staff then don't cash your overpaid checks.

 

[bigblueindy]

The fade to the corner of the endzone should be banned. While I believe he needs to leave the OC alone and let him call the game, that one play should not be in the playbook.

The fade is a good call if you throw it where only your guy can catch it or it goes out of bounds. NOT when you under throw a receiver for the thousandth time like Towels has REPEATEDLY!!! Pathetic.

Bigblue

 

[rmattox]

The fade is a good call if you throw it where only your guy can catch it or it goes out of bounds. NOT when you under throw a receiver for the thousandth time like Towels has REPEATEDLY!!! Pathetic.

Bigblue

That's my point. There is less room for error on that pass than any other pass on the field. It's low percentage even for some of the great qb's

 

[CoachR35]

The fade is a good call if you throw it where only your guy can catch it or it goes out of bounds. NOT when you under throw a receiver for the thousandth time like Towels has REPEATEDLY!!! Pathetic.

Bigblue

this ^^^

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

!!!! What!!!
He said that was a run play, "patrick decided to throw it, but that was a run play"... "we called a run, but patruck has the ability to change if he wants, it was supposed to be a run, but pat decided to throw it, i dont know why, it was a run play" Patrick is just not an SEC qb
!!!!! The end. Put pat at backup tightend

With the QB battle ongoing, I would think those privileges would be removed. If not, they should've been after that call based on everything else.

 

[Kats23]

Then that should be a sign that you should remove that ability from him, esp in goal line play. Worked once against EKU and I said at the time that's a stupid play and too risky.

 

[richbrookstomato]

I would love to know what kind of dirt Patrick has on Stoops that keeps him on the field even when he goes rogue on the play calls?

It is beyond ridiculous that the coaches give Patrick that much latitude, when Barker made 1 mistake and he gets the hook.

Anyone know why????

 

[shutzhund]

Towles must be phenomenal in practice. [banana]

 

[Soupbean]

The fade to the corner of the endzone should be banned. While I believe he needs to leave the OC alone and let him call the game, that one play should not be in the playbook.

Yep^. If you polled the defense, their coaches, what they would rather see their opponents offense do from the 3 yard line, number one on their list would be "throw a 50/50 ball up for grabs.

Get UNDER a CENTER and hand the damn thing off to a hard charging RB. If you can't get it in on 4 downs from there quit.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

Towles must be phenomenal in practice. [banana]

I'm thinking it's the other. Think about it. Towles doesn't make good decisions. Doesn't or can't read defenses well. Is alarmingly inaccurate. By all available evidence he throws a ball that's hard to catch. And shows no discernible leadership skills. And yet, he plays. There can only be one explanation for that.

Barker must be pathetic in practice.

 

[UK90]

The fade is a good call if you throw it where only your guy can catch it or it goes out of bounds. NOT when you under throw a receiver for the thousandth time like Towels has REPEATEDLY!!! Pathetic.

Bigblue

This. It's a good call IF you've got a QB who can consistently throw it right, but Towles has well shown that he is NOT one of those guys. We should not be running any more end zone fades when Patrick is behind center ...EVER again.

And the notion that Towles is unilaterally waiving off the coach's run play calls so that he can instead try fades that are intercepted is just maddening. Could you imagine what would happen in the old days if he tried that **** with an old school coach like Parcells, Lombardi, Bryant, etc.?

Don't ever do that again, Patrick, if your coaches call a run play then do what they say and run the damn ball.

 

[Burly]

The biggest blunder was not having Kemp in game @ goalline

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

The fade is a good call if you throw it where only your guy can catch it or it goes out of bounds. NOT when you under throw a receiver for the thousandth time like Towels has REPEATEDLY!!! Pathetic.

Bigblue

Yep. Its the same throw he underthrew against EKU, in basically the same exact way. This time Baker couldnt rescue him.

 

[sgt4269]

Then that stupid play call was on pat. And pat was not the answer tonight
Barker was. At least for the 5 mins he played. Despite the interception. He still had the hot hand.
Stoops put paper towels back in to watch him struggle some more
I wonder if barker will transfer

 

[Tapemaster8]

I would love to know what kind of dirt Patrick has on Stoops that keeps him on the field even when he goes rogue on the play calls?

It is beyond ridiculous that the coaches give Patrick that much latitude, when Barker made 1 mistake and he gets the hook.

Anyone know why????[/QUOTEThat isn't going rogue on the play calls. He just thought he could complete it and didn't throw it high enough. That should have been defensive pass interference the defender had his hand in our chest with the ball in the air. They fumble and we recover and they call it an incomplete pass. When they should have called it a fumble and then reviewed it later. The trick play was pretty close to illegal. Look like to me the receiver came into the hash went back outside and foot was out of bounds before the ball was snapped. Then he stepped in. Our people upstairs should have seen that play coming. They must have been asleep.

 

[ok-cats-computer]

!!!! What!!!
He said that was a run play, "patrick decided to throw it, but that was a run play"... "we called a run, but patruck has the ability to change if he wants, it was supposed to be a run, but pat decided to throw it, i dont know why, it was a run play" Patrick is just not an SEC qb
!!!!! The end. Put pat at backup tightend

If true, that was a bad call by Towles. I'm not surprised Stoops would throw players under the bus during post game interviews.

 

[UK till Death]

Why would Towles be given the freedom to change plays? He makes horrible decisions.

More poor coaching decisions...

 

[AirRaidFan_rivals164446]

If Towles checked to that horrible pass then he doesn't need to be the QB. Anyone could see it was a run-up-the-gut play.

That's it for me tonight. Worn out.....

 

[Jon(-24)]

That makes everything makes sense now.

Towles checked into a bad throw.
Towles was benched as punishment for that call, not his play the last 20 games.
Barker came in and outplayed Towles while he was being punished
Towles timeout was up, so Barker was benched and Towles was allowed to come back out of the corner.

 

[UK90]

That makes everything makes sense now.

Towles checked into a bad throw.
Towles was benched as punishment for that call, not his play the last 20 games.
Barker came in and outplayed Towles while he was being punished
Towles timeout was up, so Barker was benched and Towles was allowed to come back out of the corner.

Yep. Reading between the lines, it does appear this is probably what was actually going on. It's just too bad Stoops didn't have the good sense to see that perhaps Towles punishment should be extended longer on account of the fact that ...you know ...Barker. Was. Better.

 

[K_TIME]

1. Checking into another play on goal line isn't something you should give QB freedom to do...Checking into another play on 40 yard line is totally different. I don't know why you'd give that kind of freedom to a college QB.
2. The check was awful...Baker was on short side of hashmarks...not a ton of space between him and sideline.. You usually check those to wide side of field.
3. Under throw a bit by Towles...shocking:flushed:
4. Dorian is a strong kid but not a tall kid and not a freakish athlete either for a WR. Why we think he's such a good option on those plays is beyond me. Bone is the tallest WR for those plays.
5. Baker gave a typical half-hearted effort by allowing the DB to put him on the sideline vs giving Towles space to throw that in the corner of endzone...

Another really bad low percentage coaching decision by staff that loses games. SImilar to Auburn game where we're throwing deep routes when all we needed were 5 yard shots that Auburn was giving us. You can't hardly defend Stoops/Dawson....not the answer at offensive coaching.

 

[fabcat]

We were lined up in a Power/Heavy set and going under center. They were freaking outnumbered and we called a TIMEOUT. We came out went into the spread and Towles then checks to the fade. If you don't want him checking to a play then tell him and why are we the ONLY team on earth that doesn't have an unbalanced set at the goal line?? Two things happen, you get them outnumbered and walk into the end zone, or you make them call a time out to adjust to it. Motion out of it and make them slide to it opposite. My God this is High School ****.

 

[School boy]

This coaching staff needs to get it in gear. We must stand with them and give them love. I'm pissed about how the season has went and it is old losing in Nov, but it's time to look forward to recruiting. I hope we can land the talent needed to win and beat The louisviile's, Vandy's, and sometimes UT's.

We have to start getting better recruits. this lazy coaching can work if you recruit.

 

[rmattox]

We were lined up in a Power/Heavy set and going under center. They were freaking outnumbered and we called a TIMEOUT. We came out went into the spread and Towles then checks to the fade. If you don't want him checking to a play then tell him and why are we the ONLY team on earth that doesn't have an unbalanced set at the goal line?? Two things happen, you get them outnumbered and walk into the end zone, or you make them call a time out to adjust to it. Motion out of it and make them slide to it opposite. My God this is High School ****.

One of the best ways to mix up the d is to use a variety of formations, including unbalanced lines. The qb needs to be able to line them up, with no motion and snap the ball. Motion gives them time to adjust. Run up to the line, go unbalanced and snap the ball.

 

[fabcat]

^^They don't need a group hug. They are all making plenty of money to do their job. The ones that need a group hug are the fans that spend their hard earned money to go watch them butcher up a game like they did today. In most jobs you don't get paid for a performance like they had, but they will all cash them checks this week.

 

[fabcat]

One of the best ways to mix up the d is to use a variety of formations, including unbalanced lines. The qb needs to be able to line them up, with no motion and snap the ball. Motion gives them time to adjust. Run up to the line, go unbalanced and snap the ball.

Yes you do that, if they call a time out and adjust to your unbalance you then motion to the other side and if they don't slide to it you have them outnumbered again. Usually they won't slide. They may move a backer or safety with the motion, but lineman will forget to slide and you have them at point of contact again outnumbered. You only need a yard or two not trying to get past second level.

I'm not talking about motion with a receiver, move your unbalanced with the motion and make them react to it. See it done every week in both College and the NFL...use to see it at the High School level every Friday night. Not sure I have seen us do it one time.

When we went heavy and a T.O. Was called I thought it was Vandy. Then I saw that it was us and just threw my hands up in the air. 14 secs on play clock we have them and call a T.O. Bravo!!!

 

[rmattox]

Yes you do that, if they call a time out and adjust to your unbalance you then motion to the other side and if they don't slide to it you have them outnumbered again. Usually they won't slide. They may move a backer or safety with the motion, but lineman will forget to slide and you have them at point of contact again outmumbered. You only need a yard or two not trying to get past second level.

I'm not talking about motion with a receiver, move your unbalanced with the motion and make them react to it. See it done every week in both College and the NFL...use to see it at the High School level every Friday night. Not sure I have seen us do it one time.

I'll bet you a cup of coffee You will see it when Petrino comes to town. Football is not only about blocking the man in front of you, but it's about outnumbering the other team at the point of attack...and snapping the ball before they have a chance to shift. It grinds me to see a qb stand there watching the d shift. IMO, the objective is to hit them while they are in the process of shifting.

 

[UK90]

We must stand with them and give them love.
.

We already give the coaching staff love ...in the form of millions of dollars in salary and benefits carved out the UK budget each year. In return they're supposed to give us something ...satisfactory results on the field.. So far only one side is keeping up its end of that bargain.

 

[fabcat]

I'll bet you a cup of coffee You will see it when Petrino comes to town. Football is not only about blocking the man in front of you, but it's about outnumbering the other team at the point of attack...and snapping the ball before they have a chance to shift. It grinds me to see a qb stand there watching the d shift. IMO, the objective is to hit them while they are in the process of shifting.

Agree. We would actually call a timeout to allow them the personnel they need to stop the play.

 

[Johnfarrel]

Would have loved to keep running the ball in that situation, and should have run the ball four times inside the one in the first half instead of making one down a pass.

As for Barker, he may be better than Towles, but he did throw a point blank interception for a pick six. That probably had more to do with his not playing than it being the end of Patrick's time-out. Barker needs playing time. I think we will see more of him next week and the reps will probably be split in the Louisville game.

 

[Pewee Cat]

Pass was short, Baker never made an attempt to knock it down & he would be benched. Bakers body language says it all he won't catch a pass from Towles unless its in his gut. Again Baker needs to sit.