But he gave the team ice cream. And gave them the 2nd half off of a game when we were getting ran into the ground instead of making them sit through the rain delay. I think people are forgetting just how bad the Joker tenure became.
Stoops vs Joker
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No, no one forgot. Yall are using it as an excuse to give Stoops a pass. No one forgets that trashy *** UK fans killed the coach for driving an ice cream truck to practice either. As if that had anything to do with anything. Harbaugh did the same thing at Ravens camp, it didnt seem to be the same issue that it was here for some reason.
The staff pulled in, aka we hired Jimmy Brumbaugh, his position coach at East Mississippi CC.
I agree. When Joker came in, he was supposed to have some great offense and recruiting, both were horrid. His offense was in the bottom five, if not last if I remember correctly, of the country. Aside from just the star rankings, the offer sheets of recruits were far from what we have now. He may have had a few recruits that had offers from a few of the P5 schools, but generally was competing with mid majors. Stoops still has time, but in my mind, Joker was the worst coach in memory. I didn't think anyone would be worse than the Curry days. Call me when we are 2-10....best quote ever.
And to be fair to stoops and the d line, he was expecting to have both Jason Hatcher and Reggie meant after this last season ended. Those were shocks that they were not around. Also the Lloyd Tubman (we don't know how good he would of been). All of these effected the depth at the front seven. None of our linebackers had got any good minutes going into Saturday either. That defense is so young up front (from a playing standpoint).
Probably because they weren't getting embarrassed on a weekly basis. It was a bad move on his part from an appearance standpoint. And I'm not giving Stoops a pass. Saturday was embarrassing and I hate it for the guys on the team. We need 6 wins this season and that's not looking promising. However, stoops has brought in much better talent than he inherited. If he continues to fail at the coaching side of things and not make a bowl this year or next year then he will at a minimum have left the next coach with a roster that had solid skill position players. The only way he is gone this year is if it's a total collapse and we win 3 or less.
He did in camp when it was 90+ degrees before the season started. How was he getting embarrassed on a weekly basis? Yall haters love making up stuff. It was an innocuous thing that the players enjoyed and it even made sportscenter even though you say it was a bad look. Many of our fans turned it into a negative because they had an agenda.
Against Arkansas in 2012, called it early at the end of the 3rd due to rain, they were up 49-7
No a game was called against Arkansas in the 3rd quarter because of weather but hey, why stop making up stuff now. Forfeit is much better for the agenda.
We forfeited a game that the SEC made the decision to call because of weather and Joker gave out ice cream when we were getting embarrassed on a weekly basis... in camp before the season started.
Actually, I have read plenty of your brainless ramblings on here. This post is a perfect example of your stupidity.
Well then who was wanting Joker back? Im sorry getting called out on your BS upsets you. I state facts, you come back with brainless rambling. I guess it sucks when you dont have any facts to back up your BS.
mediocrity would be being at 500 or better. thats a lot of suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Lol, too long to explain. I'd go there too if I couldnt actually back up anything I said.
You have taken too many draws off your meth pipe today. Tell me in any post I said anyone wanted him back. I said I didn't want him back. Those are the facts. The rich irony of a clown like you talking about reading comprehension. [laughing] Now is there any other topics you want to discuss so I can humiliate you further?
Jesus you're dumb, I replied to a poster who said he still didn't want Joker back, you came at me with your nonsense after I replied to him. Stay in your lane old man, you havent even said anything, you just called me brainless since you cant refute any of my facts. Sorry but that doesnt humiliate me random message board poster, Im glad that you're proud of yourself tho.
I didn't come back at you at all. Did I reference your post? No. Why? Because I paid no attention to what you posted. In fact, I usually just glance over your posts briefly because they generally are worthless. And your drivel posted in this thread confirms why. [smoke]
Like I told the JIDF (Joker internet defense force) before, Joker inherited a team that went to 5 straight bowls. 3 years later that team would struggle to finish 500 in the Sun Belt.
There is no defending it. You can perform any amount of mental gymnastics you want, but it will not make him a better coach. And Stoops has been handicapped coming in after Joker. Hell, Brooks inherited a better situation than Stoops.
That being said, saturdays loss is on Stoops. And it was a bad one. I dont know if he is the man for the job (I feel he is), but one thing is for certain. Joker has been the worst hire of the modern era and it's not even close. Even Curry was better.
If you wanna find out what direction a coach is going, look at their 1st and 3rd year.
Joker first year 6-6...Jokers last year 2-10
Stoops first year 2-10...Stoops last year 5-7
There is no defending it. You can perform any amount of mental gymnastics you want, but it will not make him a better coach. And Stoops has been handicapped coming in after Joker. Hell, Brooks inherited a better situation than Stoops.
That being said, saturdays loss is on Stoops. And it was a bad one. I dont know if he is the man for the job (I feel he is), but one thing is for certain. Joker has been the worst hire of the modern era and it's not even close. Even Curry was better.
If you wanna find out what direction a coach is going, look at their 1st and 3rd year.
Joker first year 6-6...Jokers last year 2-10
Stoops first year 2-10...Stoops last year 5-7
Literally not 1 person defended Joker. I said he did a terrible job and deserves to be fired. No one is defendeding whatever nonsense you're talking about.
My guess is that the reason Harbaugh avoided criticism on this board is (1) not many fans probably even knew about it, and (2) since there are probably not too many Ravens fans on a UK board, most UK fans would not really have reason to blast him if they did know, and, finally, (3) based on Harbaugh's overall record, he could show up for practice dressed like Bozo the Clown and get away with it. With all said, there are a lot of UK fans, myself included, who weren't really too worried about Joker driving an ice cream truck.
Combined Records
Joker: 13-24
Stoops: 12-25
Both were coordinators at a major D-1 program (one offensive/one defensive)
Both had ZERO head coaching experience prior to being hired
Both are perceived as "Pretty good guys" who everybody would love to see do well
Both have fielded teams that looked inept more often than is acceptable (even by UK standards)
Both have fielded atrocious defenses
Both appeared way in over their head
Both spent time on the hot seat
Both will leave UK as very wealthy men that didn't deserve the money they received
I see a lot of similarities between the two, unfortunately.
Joker: 13-24
Stoops: 12-25
Both were coordinators at a major D-1 program (one offensive/one defensive)
Both had ZERO head coaching experience prior to being hired
Both are perceived as "Pretty good guys" who everybody would love to see do well
Both have fielded teams that looked inept more often than is acceptable (even by UK standards)
Both have fielded atrocious defenses
Both appeared way in over their head
Both spent time on the hot seat
Both will leave UK as very wealthy men that didn't deserve the money they received
I see a lot of similarities between the two, unfortunately.
