Stop this false narrative!
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Brooks - The hire was hated by most and the majority wanted him fired until....2006
Joker - Was an acceptable hire by most until it was painfully obvious even to the blind that it was a horrible move.
Stoops - YTBT
Go back pre-Mitch (not a Mitch fan), fans were falling over themselves for a proven coach named Bill Curry. How'd that turn out? If Mitch is so horrible at hires (and he has been), what about the fan base?
Let's just criticize the fan base for wanting a winning program.
Yeah, not what I said at all. Do you really need me to explain the point of my post?
As for criticizing the fan base, yeah it could use some after what went down a couple weeks ago.
MB is getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to get it right. He has given us Billy Clyde over Cal and Joker and Stoops without even considering two coaches that were interested named Petrino and Leach. Yep, blame it on the fans.
Every fan base has what your insinuating as terrible fans. No one has a perfect fan base. Calipari has been awesome for our basketball program and he even gets criticized. It's just part of it.
Yeah your whining over a portion of our fan base. No need in explaining that. As far as that dumb rumor that was terrible.
Me whining? Jesus, all I have read on here minus a thread here and there is whining about how bad the team is and how much the coaches suck, etc...
I'm not whining, I'm pointing out that all the damn arm chair AD's and coaches on this board aren't near as smart as they think they are. That's not whining that's just a fact based on history.
G W L T %
Bear Bryant1946–1953 88 60 23 5 .710 AP SEC Coach of the Year (1950)
Blanton Collier 1954–1961 80 41 36 3 .531 SEC Coach of the Year (1954)
Charlie Bradshaw 1962–1968 70 25 41 4 .386
John Ray 1969–1972 43 10 33 0 .233
Fran Curci 1973–1981 100 47 51 2 .480 AP SEC Coach of the Year (1977)
Jerry Claiborne1982–1989 90 41 46 3 .472 AP SEC Coach of the Year (1983)
Bill Curry 1990–1996 78 26 52 0 .333
Hal Mumme 1997–2000 46 20 26 — .435
Guy Morriss 2001–2002 23 9 14 — .391
Rich Brooks 2003–2009 86 39 47 — .453
Joker Phillips 2010–2012 37 13 24 — .351
Mark Stoops 2013–pres. 24 7 17 — .292
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So, no coach in the last 55 years has had a 500 record at this school, not one.
Good lord that is depressing.
Yet we should fire a coach after year 4, when they took over a depleted, even for our standards, roster and was a game away from 500 in his 2nd and 3rd years, has improved recruiting, just hired a proven OC and it's his first head coach job so we knew there would be growing pains.
Yeah, pretty logical.
no, it's not. I think MB has had his turn and it's time for someone else
I have said this repeatedly. I'm not defending Barnhart really. He's not done the job with football, and I don't have any faith if we run Stoops off that he'll get the right guy. But, some people are so mad about that, that they exaggerate and portray Barnhart as some combination of Hitler, Jimmy Swaggart and the local idiot. That's not true either.
No problem, murph. Man, I know we are ALL upset with the way things have gone and we ALL want a winner. I think so of us go overboard and let our anger and disappointment cloud our judgement in terms of what to do and what's realistic.
I'm not a big fan of Barney as I've said many times. The man has made too many questionable decision in a very short few years. BCG, and the Stoops extension.
I give Stoops a bit of a pass because he is a new HC, and there is a bit of a learning curve.
If he were an established HC I would not be near as patient as I am up to this point.
I didn't initially say it, only quoted TBCat and I believe it to be a sad truth...you have your opinion, I have mine.
I really think the years of long rebuilds are over. Just too much at stake in revenue to have a 7 year screw up instead of trying to fix it before it becomes a total overhaul again.
Kids have many more options now where they can play on TV for a winner in another conference rather than playing for a perineal loser that's on the way down. I don't think the SEC label has much of an advantage at Vandy and UK . Just being a member is not going to cut it anymore.
If the national perspective is that Stoops is not going to get it done here eventually recruiting is going to fall off. These kids watch games like the one we had against Florida and you can't blame them in thinking the program is not close.
I guess my point is that teams are now trying to find the next Petrino, Kelly, etc.... who are good enough to improve the program quickly instead of losing the fan base and recruiting hoping it might eventually work out.
This fanbase is making it harder and harder to not jump off the uk football bandwagon.
I will not accept nor support a team that is looking at a .500 season as an accomplishment. If we keep this up Louisville will turn into the darling program of the state, and it's already happening.
Some of you pumpers are going to be the only fans left if you keep this up.
I will not accept nor support a team that is looking at a .500 season as an accomplishment. If we keep this up Louisville will turn into the darling program of the state, and it's already happening.
Some of you pumpers are going to be the only fans left if you keep this up.
What are you talking about? I haven't hired anyone.
And if you think fans were falling over Bill Curry then you weren't around at the time. What honey moon he had lasted about half a year. Even before that fans were concerned about him. I heard warnings from Bama fans from day 1.
While we're at it let's stop the false narrative that all Petrino did was take his side poon for a Harley ride . Thats not even the reason he was fired or unhirable at almost any school but it gets presented that way every time . #Stopfalsenarrativesmatter
Dude why would you fire this coach? Because you blew a game against Southern Miss? Did you really expect to beat Alabama or Florida? Really. Stop the insanity or the agenda. Certainly not frequenting this place as much cause most of you guys just want to always fire the coach. Get behind UK or go find another team. It is really that simple
Why would you fire him? You can't really be serious. Even Vandy is about to fire their coach and he's a newer hire than Stoops. Good grief you Stoops people are incredible. Go look up Stoops record sometime. I assure you it's not just Bama that is able to beat us.
Edit: Never mind, you're a U of L troll. Note the "you blew a game" phrasing.
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Not nearly as illogical as giving the man a 20 million dollar extension halfway through year 2 which he STILL has not yet earned.
Duuude, show me where I said anything like that in my post. Please requote, embolden and underline the portion that you totally and clearly misinterpreted that caused you to make such an asinine response. When you're done eating your crow, I'll be here waiting. Where do you get off telling me to support another team based on a factual statement of historical data? It probably is best you dont frequent the board anymore if this is what you were bringing to the table.
Wow, gaslighting the fans to the max. Bravo, is your last name Stoops or Barnhart?
It's funny how you mock the fans' predictions of how Brooks and Joker would turn out and then make a prediction of your own - that the next coach won't make it if we fire Stoops after 4 seasons.
Can't have it both ways.
And for the record I was cool with Brooks and against Joker from BEFORE he was hired. Many others were too.
I also notice that you left out how well Petrino is doing considering many fans were pushing to get him hired here.
But yeah, keep bashing the fans. We're the real problem here, not Mitch "The Bag Man" Barnhart.
Do I really need to post the definition to gas-lighting again? I would have thought you would have found a new word in the dictionary to focus on by now.
LEARN TO READ, if you do you will see I have said in damn near every post I do NOT support Barney, and I am in a holding pattern on Stoops.
My "prediction" was based on historical precedence, not arm chair AD/Coaching. Yeah I get a kick out of the ignorant fools that come on here bashing the program, spreading rumors about the coach, and then turn around and cry about why we can't recruit....news flash, this is a form of social media and it's pretty damn popular with the kids these days.
I don't care who you were for or against, because not once in my post did I mention you by name, therefor I wasn't talking directly to you. Do you understand?
Petrino does well everywhere he goes until he leaves for greener pastures, or leaves due to scandal. You call people UofL trolls, but you're all up on Bobby's nutsack. :joy:
I remember the "We're getting the coach for Alabama!" talk. If you weren't one of those people, then I wasn't talking about you, TBCat.