Surprised no one is talking Shakespear in the Park

[DvlDog4WVU]

i figured lines would be drawn and arguments made for and against. To catch you all up, this year's rendition of Shakespear in the Park is a reimagining of Julius Caesar, and its a Trump type character playing the part of Caesar. As we all know, Caesar is brutally murdered. Apparently, there exists some outrage on the right, and sponsors BofA and Delta have pulled back their financial support.

Like I did previously when it was the left crying like little girls, I'm fine with this. The people being outraged in response to this need to grow the **** up. Of course it's a double standard and of course if there would have been a play where an Obamaesque character played the part of Caesar and instead of being stabbed he was lynched then of course there would have been marches et al. We would have had to sit through months long debates about racism in society, BLM, protests, burning ****, etc. I support the theater company's right to their art, their speech, and the overall message being portrayed with Julius Caesar.

 

[TarHeelEer]

i figured lines would be drawn and arguments made for and against. To catch you all up, this year's rendition of Shakespear in the Park is a reimagining of Julius Caesar, and its a Trump type character playing the part of Caesar. As we all know, Caesar is brutally murdered. Apparently, there exists some outrage on the right, and sponsors BofA and Delta have pulled back their financial support.

Like I did previously when it was the left crying like little girls, I'm fine with this. The people being outraged in response to this need to grow the **** up. Of course it's a double standard and of course if there would have been a play where an Obamaesque character played the part of Caesar and instead of being stabbed he was lynched then of course there would have been marches et al. We would have had to sit through months long debates about racism in society, BLM, protests, burning ****, etc. I support the theater company's right to their art, their speech, and the overall message being portrayed with Julius Caesar.

It's a play, who cares. Carrottop didn't offend me either. His career was over years ago anyways.

 

[Boomboom521]

It's a little hacky to me.

 

[Airport]

i figured lines would be drawn and arguments made for and against. To catch you all up, this year's rendition of Shakespear in the Park is a reimagining of Julius Caesar, and its a Trump type character playing the part of Caesar. As we all know, Caesar is brutally murdered. Apparently, there exists some outrage on the right, and sponsors BofA and Delta have pulled back their financial support.

Like I did previously when it was the left crying like little girls, I'm fine with this. The people being outraged in response to this need to grow the **** up. Of course it's a double standard and of course if there would have been a play where an Obamaesque character played the part of Caesar and instead of being stabbed he was lynched then of course there would have been marches et al. We would have had to sit through months long debates about racism in society, BLM, protests, burning ****, etc. I support the theater company's right to their art, their speech, and the overall message being portrayed with Julius Caesar.

Very poor taste. I would pull my support, if I were involved, and some of the corporations are. Good for them.

 

[rog1187]

i figured lines would be drawn and arguments made for and against. To catch you all up, this year's rendition of Shakespear in the Park is a reimagining of Julius Caesar, and its a Trump type character playing the part of Caesar. As we all know, Caesar is brutally murdered. Apparently, there exists some outrage on the right, and sponsors BofA and Delta have pulled back their financial support.

Like I did previously when it was the left crying like little girls, I'm fine with this. The people being outraged in response to this need to grow the **** up. Of course it's a double standard and of course if there would have been a play where an Obamaesque character played the part of Caesar and instead of being stabbed he was lynched then of course there would have been marches et al. We would have had to sit through months long debates about racism in society, BLM, protests, burning ****, etc. I support the theater company's right to their art, their speech, and the overall message being portrayed with Julius Caesar.

I'm all for making fun of POTUS or anyone in any form of public life...but to depict the murder of someone is dangerous IMO. Some nut job might just get pushed over the edge by seeing that play and go off and start shooting at a ball field...

 

[wvu2007]

Hate Trumps Love.
When they go low, we go lower.

 

[Keyser76]

Donnie Jr. already tweeted bout it . Them boys got real jobs?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I'm all for making fun of POTUS or anyone in any form of public life...but to depict the murder of someone is dangerous IMO. Some nut job might just get pushed over the edge by seeing that play and go off and start shooting at a ball field...

You do understand Julius Caesar was in fact murdered in the play, right? It's a reimagining, really no different that the DiCaprio movie of Romeo and Juliet where it was set in Los Angeles, or West Side Story, or Othello with the Julia Stiles, Mekhi Phifer, and Josh Hartnett.

And really, if you understand the plot of Julius Caesar, where being on the side of the extremes is the greatest threat to Democracy, then this is a very topical imagining of Caesar. I applaud it as a means to create civil discourse about our current position in society. This is ultimately why I couldn't support either Hillary or Trump and couldn't stand Obama. All were polarizing figures and I think that's bad for our democracy as it works best when we're all working together.

 

[rog1187]

You do understand Julius Caesar was in fact murdered in the play, right? It's a reimagining, really no different that the DiCaprio movie of Romeo and Juliet where it was set in Los Angeles, or West Side Story, or Othello with the Julia Stiles, Mekhi Phifer, and Josh Hartnett.

And really, if you understand the plot of Julius Caesar, where being on the side of the extremes is the greatest threat to Democracy, then this is a very topical imagining of Caesar. I applaud it as a means to create civil discourse about our current position in society. This is ultimately why I couldn't support either Hillary or Trump and couldn't stand Obama. All were polarizing figures and I think that's bad for our democracy as it works best when we're all working together.

Yes but to insert a real time public figure (in this case POTUS) is a bad thing IMO.

 

[Boomboom521]

You do understand Julius Caesar was in fact murdered in the play, right? It's a reimagining, really no different that the DiCaprio movie of Romeo and Juliet where it was set in Los Angeles, or West Side Story, or Othello with the Julia Stiles, Mekhi Phifer, and Josh Hartnett.

And really, if you understand the plot of Julius Caesar, where being on the side of the extremes is the greatest threat to Democracy, then this is a very topical imagining of Caesar. I applaud it as a means to create civil discourse about our current position in society. This is ultimately why I couldn't support either Hillary or Trump and couldn't stand Obama. All were polarizing figures and I think that's bad for our democracy as it works best when we're all working together.

Incredibly well said.....but you seem to have all kinds of hate flowing for the left. You're one of the posters on here that I seek perspective from, due to a seemingly genuine balanced approach (even with your fiscal conservative stance), but lately you seem to be aligning on team right quite often......maybe it's just the Russian thing.

The ambiguity of Cesar is relevant and the struggle between ego/power and ambition/civic duty to country is fitting for Trumps political identity. And you're right about the struggle of extremism versus the blandness of true republican government (where grand ideas are diluted into passable legislation) is also fitting for our current political environment. But this has been done before, in the modern setting depicting totalitarian figures.....I think it's a little hack to make the stretch with Trump.

 

[WVPATX]

i figured lines would be drawn and arguments made for and against. To catch you all up, this year's rendition of Shakespear in the Park is a reimagining of Julius Caesar, and its a Trump type character playing the part of Caesar. As we all know, Caesar is brutally murdered. Apparently, there exists some outrage on the right, and sponsors BofA and Delta have pulled back their financial support.

Like I did previously when it was the left crying like little girls, I'm fine with this. The people being outraged in response to this need to grow the **** up. Of course it's a double standard and of course if there would have been a play where an Obamaesque character played the part of Caesar and instead of being stabbed he was lynched then of course there would have been marches et al. We would have had to sit through months long debates about racism in society, BLM, protests, burning ****, etc. I support the theater company's right to their art, their speech, and the overall message being portrayed with Julius Caesar.

If you remember after Gabby Giffords was shot the main stream media went wild over a Sarah Palin target she used to depict vulnerable Dems. Libs blamed Palin for the shooting.

Now, we have a play depicting the killing of Trump and crickets from the media and libs. I wonder why?

 

[WVPATX]

You do understand Julius Caesar was in fact murdered in the play, right? It's a reimagining, really no different that the DiCaprio movie of Romeo and Juliet where it was set in Los Angeles, or West Side Story, or Othello with the Julia Stiles, Mekhi Phifer, and Josh Hartnett.

And really, if you understand the plot of Julius Caesar, where being on the side of the extremes is the greatest threat to Democracy, then this is a very topical imagining of Caesar. I applaud it as a means to create civil discourse about our current position in society. This is ultimately why I couldn't support either Hillary or Trump and couldn't stand Obama. All were polarizing figures and I think that's bad for our democracy as it works best when we're all working together.

"All were polarizing figures and I think that's bad for our democracy as it works best when we're all working together." BTW, Reagan was a very polarizing figure with the Dems absolutely hating him.

This play does nothing to achieve your goals, in fact, it does the opposite.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

"All were polarizing figures and I think that's bad for our democracy as it works best when we're all working together." BTW, Reagan was a very polarizing figure with the Dems absolutely hating him.

This play does nothing to achieve your goals, in fact, it does the opposite.

donnie jr disagrees.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...ulius-caesar-production/ar-BBCFBPJ?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

lately you seem to be aligning on team right quite often......maybe it's just the Russian thing.

I am aligning there because I truly believe it's a strategy the left is playing up and not really founded in reality. Hell, look at the article THE posted, it's a concerted strategy.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

This play does nothing to achieve your goals, in fact, it does the opposite.

I disagree, although, I concede its a little hack to use Trump. It shouldn't be polarizing, and it's not for me. It opens dialogue or it should and open civil discourse is vital to the strength of our country.

 

[bornaneer]

I am aligning there because I truly believe it's a strategy the left is playing up and not really founded in reality. Hell, look at the article THE posted, it's a concerted strategy.

Meanwhile in Charm City.....

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — Baltimore sees multiple deadly shootings in just a matter of hours. It was a burst of violence that forced the commissioner to make a drastic move today.


All uniformed officers will be on mandatory 12-hour shifts, as the city hustles to control the crime.


Ava-joye Burnett reports the violence spilled over from the night into broad daylight today.


After a violent night, the police department announced a plan on how to address this problem, as the Police Commissioner was angered by the violence.


The violence in Baltimore started Monday evening and lasted through the night. It spilled over into the middle of Tuesday and by the end of it all, at least 12 people had been shot and at least six dead.


The victims include a 28-year-old man killed during a drug dispute on Bentalou Street, a 37-year-old woman killed in a bullying incident on Gertrude street and a man and woman– both in their twenties, killed during a quadruple shooting on Bonaparte Ave.

 

[WVPATX]

I disagree, although, I concede its a little hack to use Trump. It shouldn't be polarizing, and it's not for me. It opens dialogue or it should and open civil discourse is vital to the strength of our country.

The play is very polarizing. If you like Trump you detest the play showing his assassination. If you hate Trump, you love the play (see Fareed Zakaria's tweet).

This play does nothing to bring people together, which was your stated goal. They certainly have a right to put on the play, but it is hard to argue it brings people together.

 

[Boomboom521]

I am aligning there because I truly believe it's a strategy the left is playing up and not really founded in reality. Hell, look at the article THE posted, it's a concerted strategy.

But as a military man, are you not extremely concerned about cyber warfare and the potential effects on our political processes? Yes, yes I've heard your assertion that it's been happening for decades, but I think this POTENTIALLY signifies a massive step forward in a strategy to mix cyber warfare, intelligence operatives, media coverage, anti-corruption rhetoric, and actual political figures that are bound through business ties to control aspects of a foreign government.

Even as I write that, I feel like a nutball.....but never the less I do feel like this needs to be investigated thoroughly. I do however wish that we didn't provide the grandstanding opportunity so much for political gain. Do it behind closed doors, and inform the public when there IS something to inform. Kamala Harris (who was my girl for 2020) has made me sour a little with her aggressive grab for political capital during this D.C. pony show.

 

[Boomboom521]

The play is very polarizing. If you like Trump you detest the play showing his assassination. If you hate Trump, you love the play (see Fareed Zakaria's tweet).

This play does nothing to bring people together, which was your stated goal. They certainly have a right to put on the play, but it is hard to argue it brings people together.

Did you ever read the play?

 

[WVPATX]

Did you ever read the play?

No, but was Trump in the play? Shakespeare must have been an even larger genius than I thought since he apparently prophesied the coming of Trump.

Dems and the media blamed Palin for the Giffords shooting, who is responsible for this one?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

But as a military man, are you not extremely concerned about cyber warfare and the potential effects on our political processes? Yes, yes I've heard your assertion that it's been happening for decades, but I think this POTENTIALLY signifies a massive step forward in a strategy to mix cyber warfare, intelligence operatives, media coverage, anti-corruption rhetoric, and actual political figures that are bound through business ties to control aspects of a foreign government.

Even as I write that, I feel like a nutball.....but never the less I do feel like this needs to be investigated thoroughly. I do however wish that we didn't provide the grandstanding opportunity so much for political gain. Do it behind closed doors, and inform the public when there IS something to inform. Kamala Harris (who was my girl for 2020) has made me sour a little with her aggressive grab for political capital during this D.C. pony show.

Of course I'm concerned, and if that's what we were focusing on publicly, then I'd be all for it. The narrative has been changed by the Dems, purposefully and strategically in order to not only stifle the President's mandate and agenda, but to impact the 2018 elections. The Dems are literally allowing the Russians to further influence our future elections by conflating multiple issues for political strategic purposes. They are openly passively colluding with the next election. Do you really not see that? Are we talking about the cyber aspects of this? No. Are we talking about the media complicit behavior in becoming an opposition party of their own? No. Are they being fed false information? Absolutely. Are we talking about social media and the ability to manipulate on a massive scale opinions? No. Are we talking about evidentiary backed collusion within one of the parties? No.

What we are talking about is something made for TruTV the likes of the hunt for Nessy. We're looking for a boogeyman that doesn't exist. We are talking about an investigation into the President that doesn't exist. We know the Russians have done this and have done it for decades approaching a damn century. We know how they did it. It's not complicated what and how they did it.

The reality is the left has a complete inability to accept their mandate and positions were rejected by the American people. So, like most people today, they look for a way to shift the blame.

With all of that said, I'm fine with investigating, but at some point, you all have to realize what you are doing is not good for the country.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

No, but was Trump in the play? Shakespeare must have been an even larger genius than I thought since he apparently prophesied the coming of Trump.

Dems and the media blamed Palin for the Giffords shooting, who is responsible for this one?

Good Lord. Don't be like the left was. We are better than that.

 

[Boomboom521]

No, but was Trump in the play? Shakespeare must have been an even larger genius than I thought since he apparently prophesied the coming of Trump.

Dems and the media blamed Palin for the Giffords shooting, who is responsible for this one?

I'm not sure about degrees of genius, but genius he was for sure. The play does a great job of exploring both the good and bad of the historical figure. As DD was saying, it was (and is) meant to initiate dialogue about the conflicting actions and consequences of Cesar's character. A little hack, but relevant in today's political environment especially with such an extreme figure like Trump (who for some represents a self sacrificing figure who is acting out of love for his country, and to some represents the epitome of power hungry greed). Shakespeare attempts to challenge both viewpoints and evoke an internal examination of the reader's personal vision of power, government, virtue, and legacy.

To make this all about the assassination, is juvenile. But it is hack.....too obvious and it's been done before.

 

[Boomboom521]

Of course I'm concerned, and if that's what we were focusing on publicly, then I'd be all for it. The narrative has been changed by the Dems, purposefully and strategically in order to not only stifle the President's mandate and agenda, but to impact the 2018 elections. The Dems are literally allowing the Russians to further influence our future elections by conflating multiple issues for political strategic purposes. They are openly passively colluding with the next election. Do you really not see that? Are we talking about the cyber aspects of this? No. Are we talking about the media complicit behavior in becoming an opposition party of their own? No. Are they being fed false information? Absolutely. Are we talking about social media and the ability to manipulate on a massive scale opinions? No. Are we talking about evidentiary backed collusion within one of the parties? No.

What we are talking about is something made for TruTV the likes of the hunt for Nessy. We're looking for a boogeyman that doesn't exist. We are talking about an investigation into the President that doesn't exist. We know the Russians have done this and have done it for decades approaching a damn century. We know how they did it. It's not complicated what and how they did it.

The reality is the left has a complete inability to accept their mandate and positions were rejected by the American people. So, like most people today, they look for a way to shift the blame.

With all of that said, I'm fine with investigating, but at some point, you all have to realize what you are doing is not good for the country.

Well said, and I agree it's become a show. But I'm not convinced it's "Hunting Bigfoot" rather than "Forensic Files" right now. But the Dems keep throwing haymaker after haymaker without landing much, and all the GOP needs to do is rope a dope. "The resistance" is as hack as that Shakespeare play.

 

[WVPATX]

I'm not sure about degrees of genius, but genius he was for sure. The play does a great job of exploring both the good and bad of the historical figure. As DD was saying, it was (and is) meant to initiate dialogue about the conflicting actions and consequences of Cesar's character. A little hack, but relevant in today's political environment especially with such an extreme figure like Trump (who for some represents a self sacrificing figure who is acting out of love for his country, and to some represents the epitome of power hungry greed). Shakespeare attempts to challenge both viewpoints and evoke an internal examination of the reader's personal vision of power, government, virtue, and legacy.

To make this all about the assassination, is juvenile. But it is hack.....too obvious and it's been done before.

I am simply pointing out that a play depicting the assassination of Trump does not bring the country together. It serves to inflame passions and some companies have already opted out for that very reason. In addition, the media and Dems blamed Palin for Giffords shooting. Will those same media members and Dems blame this play (which does far more than Palin's political display) for this shooting?

 

[Boomboom521]

Of course I'm concerned, and if that's what we were focusing on publicly, then I'd be all for it. The narrative has been changed by the Dems, purposefully and strategically in order to not only stifle the President's mandate and agenda, but to impact the 2018 elections. The Dems are literally allowing the Russians to further influence our future elections by conflating multiple issues for political strategic purposes. They are openly passively colluding with the next election. Do you really not see that? Are we talking about the cyber aspects of this? No. Are we talking about the media complicit behavior in becoming an opposition party of their own? No. Are they being fed false information? Absolutely. Are we talking about social media and the ability to manipulate on a massive scale opinions? No. Are we talking about evidentiary backed collusion within one of the parties? No.

What we are talking about is something made for TruTV the likes of the hunt for Nessy. We're looking for a boogeyman that doesn't exist. We are talking about an investigation into the President that doesn't exist. We know the Russians have done this and have done it for decades approaching a damn century. We know how they did it. It's not complicated what and how they did it.

The reality is the left has a complete inability to accept their mandate and positions were rejected by the American people. So, like most people today, they look for a way to shift the blame.

With all of that said, I'm fine with investigating, but at some point, you all have to realize what you are doing is not good for the country.

I do have faith that the IC and DOJ is on this thing though. I mean, behind the scenes we are getting this dealt with, right?

 

[WVPATX]

Good Lord. Don't be like the left was. We are better than that.

I don't give a damn about the play. Apparently some companies do because they have dropped funding support for the play. I am simply pointing out to you that this play does not bring the country together as is your laudable goal. It further divides the country.

I also use the play to point out the obvious hypocrisy of the media and Dems who instantly blamed Palin for Giffords shooting.

 

[TarHeelEer]

What we are talking about is something made for TruTV the likes of the hunt for Nessy. We're looking for a boogeyman that doesn't exist. We are talking about an investigation into the President that doesn't exist. We know the Russians have done this and have done it for decades approaching a damn century. We know how they did it. It's not complicated what and how they did it.

Collusionists. They now have a name.

 

[Boomboom521]

I am simply pointing out that a play depicting the assassination of Trump does not bring the country together. It serves to inflame passions and some companies have already opted out for that very reason. In addition, the media and Dems blamed Palin for Giffords shooting. Will those same media members and Dems blame this play (which does far more than Palin's political display) for this shooting?

First: connecting this with the shooting is just....well.....douche.

Second: for those with no real reading comprehension, imagination, or critical thinking skills.....yes this play will be all about the assassination of a Trump-like figure. But those with any capacity for appreciating or understanding creative work will recognize the intent.

Third: don't be a douche. Listen to your teammate DD.....the right needs to learn to rope a dope. Your boy Ryan sure is right now.

 

[TarHeelEer]

I do have faith that the IC and DOJ is on this thing though. I mean, behind the scenes we are getting this dealt with, right?

By IC do you mean intelligence or independent counsel?

 

[Boomboom521]

By IC do you mean intelligence or independent counsel?

Intelligence community......my biggest concern is not collusion.....it's ensuring the safety of our political processes. I don't even care if Trump gets credit for it. I think Russia is making us look like we can't handle this new strategy of cyber influence.

But I also hope the Independent council is doing a solid job of navigating the political swamp in order to discover who and what aided the Russian attempt, and makes an example of them. Trump, Kushner, Flynn, Clinton, Podesta or some group of cyber troll d-bags......any American aiding this attempt should be crucified., imo.

 

[WVPATX]

First: connecting this with the shooting is just....well.....douche.

Second: for those with no real reading comprehension, imagination, or critical thinking skills.....yes this play will be all about the assassination of a Trump-like figure. But those with any capacity for appreciating or understanding creative work will recognize the intent.

Third: don't be a douche. Listen to your teammate DD.....the right needs to learn to rope a dope. Your boy Ryan sure is right now.

So all the companies that have dropped financial support are incapable of understanding creative work even though they have sponsored this company for years? They all thought it in poor taste.

Again, I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the media and the left. Google Giffords/Palin shooting and see how the media connected Palin to Giffords, as did the Dems. When Giffords was shot, did you post that blaming Palin was douche?

Douche must be your new favorite word.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Intelligence community......my biggest concern is not collusion.....it's ensuring the safety of our political processes. I don't even care if Trump gets credit for it. I think Russia is making us look like we can't handle this new strategy of cyber influence.

But I also hope the Independent council is doing a solid job of navigating the political swamp in order to discover who and what aided the Russian attempt, and makes an example of them. Trump, Kushner, Flynn, Clinton, Podesta or some group of cyber troll d-bags......any American aiding this attempt should be crucified., imo.

Agreed in all aspects. The Democratic strategy muddies the water, and will not allow that to happen, however. They need to rebrand themselves as something the American public is interested in, rather than attacking what they can't beat.

 

[Boomboom521]

So all the companies that have dropped financial support are incapable of understanding creative work even though they have sponsored this company for years? They all thought it in poor taste.

Again, I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the media and the left. Google Giffords/Palin shooting and see how the media connected Palin to Giffords, as did the Dems. When Giffords was shot, did you post that blaming Palin was douche?

Douche must be your new favorite word.

It's accurate to sum you up, imo, you're not stupid or an idiot (like you like to throw at me often), I respect your passion for our nation and our state, and I give your opinions credence due to your apparent amount of research, knowledge, and consideration in forming your opinions.

But the way you approach this board.....debate.....discussion.....I thought douche seemed pretty balls on.

I think the dominant rhetoric in society always has a portion of responsibility for any criminally initiated tragedy like this, so the overall "resistance to Trump" rhetoric does have some weight here, but it's foolish to think that it's the CAUSE. Just as Marylin Manson was responsible for the Columbine shooting, and lack of gun control responsible for Sandy Hook, "leftists" are responsible for this shooting. It's cozy to attribute an absolute cause, but in most cases, it's just not accurate.

 

[bornaneer]

First: connecting this with the shooting is just....well.....douche.

Yea......its like connecting Trump with colluding with the Ruskies.

 

[Boomboom521]

Agreed in all aspects. The Democratic strategy muddies the water, and will not allow that to happen, however. They need to rebrand themselves as something the American public is interested in, rather than attacking what they can't beat.

I think it's just an obvious lack of real leadership within the party. Shumer and Pelosi are just utter failures.

 

[WVPATX]

It's accurate to sum you up, imo, you're not stupid or an idiot (like you like to throw at me often), I respect your passion for our nation and our state, and I give your opinions credence due to your apparent amount of research, knowledge, and consideration in forming your opinions.

But the way you approach this board.....debate.....discussion.....I thought douche seemed pretty balls on.

I think the dominant rhetoric in society always has a portion of responsibility for any criminally initiated tragedy like this, so the overall "resistance to Trump" rhetoric does have some weight here, but it's foolish to think that it's the CAUSE. Just as Marylin Manson was responsible for the Columbine shooting, and lack of gun control responsible for Sandy Hook, "leftists" are responsible for this shooting. It's cozy to attribute an absolute cause, but in most cases, it's just not accurate.

You're completely missing my point. Right after Giffords was shot, the media and the Dems blamed Palin. Thus far, the Dems have blamed guns and the media has either blamed guns or blamed no one else but the shooter. Is there any hypocrisy in this thus far?

Secondly, if Obama had been shot in a play, how would the media and the left reacted? I speculate they would have reacted very, very differently than they are today. Do you disagree?

I have never blamed leftists for this shooting. The shooter is responsible, no one else. I am blaming the left and the media (one in the same, Imo) for hypocrisy.

 

[Boomboom521]

You're completely missing my point. Right after Giffords was shot, the media and the Dems blamed Palin. Thus far, the Dems have blamed guns and the media has either blamed guns or blamed no one else but the shooter. Is there any hypocrisy in this thus far?

Secondly, if Obama had been shot in a play, how would the media and the left reacted? I speculate they would have reacted very, very differently than they are today. Do you disagree?

I have never blamed leftists for this shooting. The shooter is responsible, no one else. I am blaming the left and the media (one in the same, Imo) for hypocrisy.

You throw out hypothetical after hypothetical to explain hypocrisy though.....it's not effective. It just sounds......well......I bet you know the word I'm looking for here

 

[WVPATX]

You throw out hypothetical after hypothetical to explain hypocrisy though.....it's not effective. It just sounds......well......I bet you know the word I'm looking for here

I am not throwing out hypotheticals. The Giffords shooting and the Dem and media reaction was real, very, very real.

I simply asked you to research it to verify my accuracy and then tell me if the same does not happen with this shooting, is there hypocrisy? That is not a hypothetical.

I admit my Obama question was a hypothetical, but I think we both know the answer (if we are being honest with ourselves).

 

[Boomboom521]

I am not throwing out hypotheticals. The Giffords shooting and the Dem and media reaction was real, very, very real.

I simply asked you to research it to verify my accuracy and then tell me if the same does not happen with this shooting, is there hypocrisy? That is not a hypothetical.

I admit my Obama question was a hypothetical, but I think we both know the answer (if we are being honest with ourselves).

So someone did something wrong (blame rightwing rhetoric) and you expect them to do the same thing (mistakingly blame left wing rhetoric) in order to be right?