Tanner Farmer

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Our OL was trash last year until he took over the center position. We were much better the second half of the season after that.

But perhaps it gave us a false sense about where the development of our OL was actually at. In reality, we are working on improving that trash OL from the first half of last season. We are a few years away from reloading instead of rebuilding.

Losing Farmer hurt. A lot.

 

[MAG_rivals203855]

The entire football program, everyone and everything from A to Z and Z to A is basically is a work in progress. It's gonna be a few more years before Nebraska can be the same field with the likes of Ohio State. Like Scott Frost said in his post game presser: (I'm paraphrasing) "We are who and what we are."

 

[TruHusker]

While I understand the desire to be competitive with the the OSU’s of the world, I will be pleased when we don’t have to sweat out games against Colorado, USA, and Illinois. We aren’t even close to that yet.

 

[WoodRiverJennings]

Our OL was trash last year until he took over the center position. We were much better the second half of the season after that.

But perhaps it gave us a false sense about where the development of our OL was actually at. In reality, we are working on improving that trash OL from the first half of last season. We are a few years away from reloading instead of rebuilding.

Losing Farmer hurt. A lot.

YOU LIE!!!

When I said the same thing headed into the season, the Cletii shouted me down. Same with my warning about missing Stan and Ozigbo.

 

[otismotis08]

Feeling like kids on a cross-country car ride..."are we there yet?"

 

[TheBeav815]

Guys, pull the guns away from your temples.

Freshman Cam Jurgens who has never played center before just went against a DL where probably all four guys are NFL players. It's like saying everyone who played us 10 years ago needed to put the backups in because their guy couldn't handle Suh and Crick. You really think the guy who can't beat out this dude in practice would stand up better to an elite DT?

Remember booing Scott Frost in 1996 because Frankie London scored a touchdown? I do. Kid turned out ok huh?

This was never going to be a title year and if we play OSU 20 times we lose 19 because they have 5 years of Top-10 classes on their sideline while we have 5 years of the best guys from our 25-30th class quitting the team.

Take a breath and let this VERY YOUNG team take some lumps and learn some lessons. We all should have already known that this is not a playoff team.

These guys had zero wins through five games last year. They have three so far. We call that progress.

 

[DudznSudz]

Guys, pull the guns away from your temples.

Freshman Cam Jurgens who has never played center before just went against a DL where probably all four guys are NFL players. It's like saying everyone who played us 10 years ago needed to put the backups in because their guy couldn't handle Suh and Crick. You really think the guy who can't beat out this dude in practice would stand up better to an elite DT?

Remember booing Scott Frost in 1996 because Frankie London scored a touchdown? I do. Kid turned out ok huh?

This was never going to be a title year and if we play OSU 20 times we lose 19 because they have 5 years of Top-10 classes on their sideline while we have 5 years of the best guys from our 25-30th class quitting the team.

Take a breath and let this VERY YOUNG team take some lumps and learn some lessons. We all should have already known that this is not a playoff team.

These guys had zero wins through five games last year. They have three so far. We call that progress.

You speak...THE TRUTH.

 

[DrAlan_Grant]

Our OL was trash last year until he took over the center position. We were much better the second half of the season after that.

But perhaps it gave us a false sense about where the development of our OL was actually at. In reality, we are working on improving that trash OL from the first half of last season. We are a few years away from reloading instead of rebuilding.

Losing Farmer hurt. A lot.

Like it or not, yeah he seemed pretty damn good at center and we definitely miss him.

Editing for clarity. Didn't mean to take any jabs at Jurgens, he is still very young at a new position.

I just wanted to give props to Farmer. He was pretty damn good center for the short period of time he played it.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Guys, pull the guns away from your temples.

Freshman Cam Jurgens who has never played center before just went against a DL where probably all four guys are NFL players. It's like saying everyone who played us 10 years ago needed to put the backups in because their guy couldn't handle Suh and Crick. You really think the guy who can't beat out this dude in practice would stand up better to an elite DT?

Remember booing Scott Frost in 1996 because Frankie London scored a touchdown? I do. Kid turned out ok huh?

This was never going to be a title year and if we play OSU 20 times we lose 19 because they have 5 years of Top-10 classes on their sideline while we have 5 years of the best guys from our 25-30th class quitting the team.

Take a breath and let this VERY YOUNG team take some lumps and learn some lessons. We all should have already known that this is not a playoff team.

These guys had zero wins through five games last year. They have three so far. We call that progress.

I remember how that year the offensive line didn’t seem to click they moved Arron Taylor to center. I believe in the bowl game they moved Taylor back to guard and had heskew the center they were considerably better and it stayed the same in 97. So even they great milt got it wrong.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Guys, pull the guns away from your temples.

Freshman Cam Jurgens who has never played center before just went against a DL where probably all four guys are NFL players. It's like saying everyone who played us 10 years ago needed to put the backups in because their guy couldn't handle Suh and Crick. You really think the guy who can't beat out this dude in practice would stand up better to an elite DT?

Remember booing Scott Frost in 1996 because Frankie London scored a touchdown? I do. Kid turned out ok huh?

This was never going to be a title year and if we play OSU 20 times we lose 19 because they have 5 years of Top-10 classes on their sideline while we have 5 years of the best guys from our 25-30th class quitting the team.

Take a breath and let this VERY YOUNG team take some lumps and learn some lessons. We all should have already known that this is not a playoff team.

These guys had zero wins through five games last year. They have three so far. We call that progress.

15 if the 22 starters on offense/defense are upperclassmen. This is not a VERY YOUNG team.

 

[catch54]

The entire football program, everyone and everything from A to Z and Z to A is basically is a work in progress. It's gonna be a few more years before Nebraska can be the same field with the likes of Ohio State. Like Scott Frost said in his post game presser: (I'm paraphrasing) "We are who and what we are."

"We are who we are". That includes the coaching staff.

 

[TheBeav815]

15 if the 22 starters on offense/defense are upperclassmen. This is not a VERY YOUNG team.

Yeah sorry I'm not wrong.

5 of 11 starters on offense are upperclassmen. Of those, four are juniors. The one senior, Kanawai Noa, is in his first year with this team. 2nd year QB and two first year RBs in WanRob and Mills lining up behind a first year C in Jurgens.

On defense, 12/22 on your two-deep are upperclassmen. More experienced than the offense, but that's still pretty young considering you generally need all the guys on your two-deep at some time or another.

Now add to that you have 3-4 OLBs who aren't really 3-4 OLBs in Davis and Ferguson, Colin Miller playing his 2nd year as MLB, JoJo has had a new position every year of his career.

Oh and zero players on this team have more than 1.5 years of experience running this system and playing for these coaches.

I'll let you do the legwork on contrasting that with the NU teams that won conference titles and national titles as far as how many Fr and So guys were out there playing a lot.

 

[dinglefritz]

15 if the 22 starters on offense/defense are upperclassmen. This is not a VERY YOUNG team.

On offense at the very least we are still very young. On defense, there was NO way we should have expected those guys to hold up for the amount of time the offense left them on the field. ALL of the upperclassmen other than the transfers were Riley recruits. IMO, they're okay in the D line. Barry has been getting abused this year. Domman and Jackson have been pretty good. Bootle's size has hurt him. As a unit though, we have to recruit better linebackers and safeties in particular. I think maybe the freshmen on the roster will be that eventually.

I think it is painfully evident that other than Jaimes, Riley and Cav's O line was underwhelming.

"We are who we are". That includes the coaching staff.

Wilson is serviceable but man Farniok probably shouldn't be playing tackle. IF we could have sustained drives against OSU we might have had a shot of keeping the game close.

 

[dinglefritz]

Yeah sorry I'm not wrong.

5 of 11 starters on offense are upperclassmen. Of those, four are juniors. The one senior, Kanawai Noa, is in his first year with this team. 2nd year QB and two first year RBs in WanRob and Mills lining up behind a first year C in Jurgens.

On defense, 12/22 on your two-deep are upperclassmen. More experienced than the offense, but that's still pretty young considering you generally need all the guys on your two-deep at some time or another.

Now add to that you have 3-4 OLBs who aren't really 3-4 OLBs in Davis and Ferguson, Colin Miller playing his 2nd year as MLB, JoJo has had a new position every year of his career.

Oh and zero players on this team have more than 1.5 years of experience running this system and playing for these coaches.

I'll let you do the legwork on contrasting that with the NU teams that won conference titles and national titles as far as how many Fr and So guys were out there playing a lot.

It's a matter of semantics. Is a junior young? He's an upperclassman. If your seniors aren't dominate players and you've got a whole bunch of freshmen on the 2 deep, you're probably pretty young as a team. I think the bottom line is that Riley didn't recruit the linebacker and O line positions very well. Jaimes is a stud. Wilson is serviceable. I think Farniok would maybe be better at guard than he is trying to block in space. Then there's not much else left out of 3 of Riley's O line recruiting classes.

Of the juniors, I'm a little surprised that Raridon hasn't earned some playing time. He looked really quick in the spring game and with the way Hixson and Jurgens have struggled on the inside he looked to me like he could have been an option. Is it crazy to think that maybe Jurgen's best position coming from the TE spot would maybe have been right tackle? He's athletic enough that maybe he could have stayed in front of that OSU DE. I guess it will shake out but man I think I would be looking at some different combinations.

 

[TheBeav815]

It's all recruiting, boys. OSU has the #1 class in the B1G every year and NU has the #4 or 5 and then loses half the guys out of the class.

Look at the 2015 class who would be your seniors. This was a #4 class with an avg rating of .8616 (OSU's was .9031)

Eric Lee: 2-deep

Jalin Barnett: Gone

Jordan Stevenson: Gone

Avery Anderson: Gone

Carlos Davis: Starting

Lavan Alston: Gone

Stanley Morgan: Graduated

Dedrick Young: Graduated

Khalil Davis: Starting

Christian Gaylord: ACL tear

Aaron Williams: Gone

Daishon Neal: Bust

Devine Ozigbo: Graduated

Michael Decker: Gone

Matt Snyder: Gone

Adrienne Talan: Gone

Mo Berry: Starting

Tyrin Ferguson: 2-deep

Alex Davis: Starting

Antonio Reed: Graduated? Can't remember


When you take what's just a decent class to begin with and then 9 of them are either not on the team at all or out for the season by their RS-Sr year (not counting guys who played 4 years and were done) that's brutal. It leaves your roster gutshot.

That's 38% of your class that quit your team.

 

[TheBeav815]

Now let's do 2016. 21 enrollees, .8686 avg ranking. OSU had 24 for .9156 avg.

Lamar Jackson: Starting

John Raridon: 2-deep

Patrick O'Brien: Gone

Marquel Dismuke: Starting

Matt Farniok: Starting

Bryan Brokop: Gone

Quayshon Alexander: Gone

JD Spielman: Starting

Tony Butler: Bust, 3rd string CB

Tre Bryant: Gone

JoJo Domann: Starting

Ben Stille: 2-deep

Boe Wilson: Starting

Greg Simmons: Gone

Jack Stoll: Starting

Derrion Grim: Gone

Collin Miller: Starting

Pernell Jefferson: Gone

DiCaprio Bootle: Starting

Caleb Lightbourn: Gone

David Engelhaupt: Gone

9/21 not on campus any more from a so-so class, that's 43% of your guys just not even here any more.

You'll notice that almost all the ones still here are starting or playing. That's not a coincidence, just being present and having so many dudes quit hands them a ton of opportunity because there flat-out aren't other scholarship dudes there to take the job.

 

[dinglefritz]

Our OL was trash last year until he took over the center position. We were much better the second half of the season after that.

But perhaps it gave us a false sense about where the development of our OL was actually at. In reality, we are working on improving that trash OL from the first half of last season. We are a few years away from reloading instead of rebuilding.

Losing Farmer hurt. A lot.

Welcome to the party. I've been tooting that horn since last spring. Our offense did absolutely nothing until we moved Farmer to center last year.

 

[Husker Hambone]

Guys, pull the guns away from your temples.

Freshman Cam Jurgens who has never played center before just went against a DL where probably all four guys are NFL players. It's like saying everyone who played us 10 years ago needed to put the backups in because their guy couldn't handle Suh and Crick. You really think the guy who can't beat out this dude in practice would stand up better to an elite DT?

Remember booing Scott Frost in 1996 because Frankie London scored a touchdown? I do. Kid turned out ok huh?

This was never going to be a title year and if we play OSU 20 times we lose 19 because they have 5 years of Top-10 classes on their sideline while we have 5 years of the best guys from our 25-30th class quitting the team.

Take a breath and let this VERY YOUNG team take some lumps and learn some lessons. We all should have already known that this is not a playoff team.

These guys had zero wins through five games last year. They have three so far. We call that progress.

Amen

 

[TheBeav815]

2017. The *CALIBRASKA* class. We sure were excited for these guys! NU was back baby! 20 signees, 5th in the B1G, .8781 avg ranking. OSU #1, 21 guys, .9459 avg. Holy crap.

Tyjon Lindsey: Gone

Avery Roberts: Gone

Tristan Gebbia: Gone

Jaevon McQuitty: 2-deep

Keyshawn Johnson Jr.: Gone

Brenden Jaimes: Starting

Deontre Thomas: 2-deep

Matt Sichterman: 2-deep

Guy Thomas: Gone

Damion Daniels: 2-deep

Willie Hampton: Gone

Kurt Rafdal: 3rd string

Austin Allen: 2-deep

Andrew Ward: Gone

Broc Bando: 2-deep

Chris Walker: Reserve

Ben Miles: Gone

Jaylin Bradley: Gone

Elijah Blades: Gone

Deiontae Watts: Gone

11/21 guys not here or never made it here. 52% of your "best" class in recent years that in reality was still just an ok class.

This team is so devoid of experienced scholarship talent right now it would be funny except that it isn't. TBH we should probably be amazed they're doing as well as they are.

In just 3 classes you have 28 scholarship guys who are no longer on the team without having used up their eligibility. That's brutal.

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

TLDR:

• The offense is young and relatively inexperienced
• The defense is more experienced, but not particularly talented
• The special teams are young, inexperienced and/or untalented/unhealthy.

Ergo, the team is mediocre, at best, though we do have a chance to win five more games if we play clean football, something we haven't done much of.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Welcome to the party. I've been tooting that horn since last spring. Our offense did absolutely nothing until we moved Farmer to center last year.

When did that change occur exactly?

 

[DrAlan_Grant]

When did that change occur exactly?

The Northwestern game I think.


Date NU rank Opponent Site Outcome Score
Sept. 1, 2018 Akron Home Canceled 0-0 Details
Sept. 8, 2018 Colorado Home Loss 33-28 Details
Sept. 15, 2018 Troy (formerly Troy State) Home Loss 24-19 Details
Sept. 22, 2018 #19 Michigan Away Loss 56-10 Details
Sept. 29, 2018 Purdue Home Loss 42-28 Details
Oct. 6, 2018 #16 Wisconsin Away Loss 41-24 Details
Oct. 13, 2018 Northwestern Away Loss 34-31 Details
Oct. 20, 2018 Minnesota Home Win 53-28 Details
Oct. 27, 2018 Bethune-Cookman Home Win 45-9 Details
Nov. 3, 2018 #8 Ohio State Away Loss 36-31 Details
Nov. 10, 2018 Illinois Home Win 54-35 Details
Nov. 17, 2018 Michigan State Home Win 9-6 Details
Nov. 23, 2018 Iowa Away Loss 31-28 Details


Read more: https://dataomaha.com/huskers/history/seasons/2018#ixzz617qKuZ00

 

[Sporty]

This is my opinion but Cam Jurgens will not be anywhere near Tanner Farmer at center anytime soon! Could be get there in a couple years? Maybe. I know there are people on the sideline who do not believe Jurgens is close to the best option at Center this season.

 

[TheBeav815]

This is my opinion but Cam Jurgens will not be anywhere near Tanner Farmer at center anytime soon! Could be get there in a couple years? Maybe. I know there are people on the sideline who do not believe Jurgens is close to the best option at Center this season.

Yeah Scott Frost probably wasn't better than Matt Turman that night in Tempe in '96 but you gotta invest in dudes who have the talent to be great.

Wyatt Mazour is a better inside runner than Maurice Washington. Should we get Wyatt in there?

What does it matter this year? Will Farniok doesn't turn that into a win over Ohio State, he's not the key to them winning the conference or making the playoff so for what purpose do you put in a less talented kid and prevent the guy with a way higher ceiling from getting valuable game experience?

 

[leodisflowers]

Yeah Scott Frost probably wasn't better than Matt Turman that night in Tempe in '96 but you gotta invest in dudes who have the talent to be great.

Wyatt Mazour is a better inside runner than Maurice Washington. Should we get Wyatt in there?

What does it matter this year? Will Farniok doesn't turn that into a win over Ohio State, he's not the key to them winning the conference or making the playoff so for what purpose do you put in a less talented kid and prevent the guy with a way higher ceiling from getting valuable game experience?

Stop... You are making too much sense. YOu can't do that here.

 

[DrAlan_Grant]

 

[dinglefritz]

When did that change occur exactly?

When did I make the assertion that Farmer was a good lineman or when did I assert that we were going to miss him? I posted multiple times before he was even moved to center that he was one of the 2 best lineman on our team and that we were going to miss him. When our starting walk on center went down to injury and Farmer took over the improvement in our O line play was almost immediate. Roughly six games in the number one thing that helped our offense was moving Farmer to center. He was a senior guy who could make the right line calls, deliver a snap AND block his guy.

 

[73 Red I]

Guys, pull the guns away from your temples.

Freshman Cam Jurgens who has never played center before just went against a DL where probably all four guys are NFL players. It's like saying everyone who played us 10 years ago needed to put the backups in because their guy couldn't handle Suh and Crick. You really think the guy who can't beat out this dude in practice would stand up better to an elite DT?

Remember booing Scott Frost in 1996 because Frankie London scored a touchdown? I do. Kid turned out ok huh?

This was never going to be a title year and if we play OSU 20 times we lose 19 because they have 5 years of Top-10 classes on their sideline while we have 5 years of the best guys from our 25-30th class quitting the team.

Take a breath and let this VERY YOUNG team take some lumps and learn some lessons. We all should have already known that this is not a playoff team.

These guys had zero wins through five games last year. They have three so far. We call that progress.

But can they finish??

 

[73 Red I]

When did I make the assertion that Farmer was a good lineman or when did I assert that we were going to miss him? I posted multiple times before he was even moved to center that he was one of the 2 best lineman on our team and that we were going to miss him. When our starting walk on center went down to injury and Farmer took over the improvement in our O line play was almost immediate. Roughly six games in the number one thing that helped our offense was moving Farmer to center. He was a senior guy who could make the right line calls, deliver a snap AND block his guy.

DELIVER A SNAP....first responsibility of a center!!

 

[HuskerBruce81]

Yeah sorry I'm not wrong.

5 of 11 starters on offense are upperclassmen. Of those, four are juniors. The one senior, Kanawai Noa, is in his first year with this team. 2nd year QB and two first year RBs in WanRob and Mills lining up behind a first year C in Jurgens.

On defense, 12/22 on your two-deep are upperclassmen. More experienced than the offense, but that's still pretty young considering you generally need all the guys on your two-deep at some time or another.

Now add to that you have 3-4 OLBs who aren't really 3-4 OLBs in Davis and Ferguson, Colin Miller playing his 2nd year as MLB, JoJo has had a new position every year of his career.

Oh and zero players on this team have more than 1.5 years of experience running this system and playing for these coaches.

I'll let you do the legwork on contrasting that with the NU teams that won conference titles and national titles as far as how many Fr and So guys were out there playing a lot.

Better get us now.....

 

[dinglefritz]

DELIVER A SNAP....first responsibility of a center!!

Actually making the right line call is first but I get what your point.

 

[TheBeav815]

Actually making the right line call is first but I get what your point.

It's my understanding that the "block the guy" part that comes after is where W. Farniok underwhelms.

 

[newAD]

The entire football program, everyone and everything from A to Z and Z to A is basically is a work in progress. It's gonna be a few more years before Nebraska can be the same field with the likes of Ohio State. Like Scott Frost said in his post game presser: (I'm paraphrasing) "We are who and what we are."

EXCUSES!!!!!!! Smokin

 

[cHUCK001]

Bottom line is this-most people thought we would get beat and that Ohio St. would cover the spread. The spread was 17 points. To get beat by 41 points at home? We have a little problem here and It's not just how many 4 star players we have.

 

[TheBeav815]

EXCUSES!!!!!!! Smokin

Unacceptable!

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Bottom line is this-most people thought we would get beat and that Ohio St. would cover the spread. The spread was 17 points. To get beat by 41 points at home? We have a little problem here and It's not just how many 4 star players we have.

The reason we get wasted on national television is we don't deserve to be on national television. That puts a huge amount of pressure on a group of kids who haven't earned such an opportunity. OSU has earned it, and they came out on fire and played a near perfect first half. They aren't 41 points better, maybe an 11 am start, maybe if they had just played a tough road game the week before, maybe they come out flat and we keep it close like last year. Maybe their entire offense gets the flu and they have to put new starters and true freshman at key positions...then we might be equal.

 

[HuskerO58]

Jaylin Bradley: Gone

When did Jaylin leave? I didn't know he quit...

 

[Trumplestiltskin]

"We are who we are". That includes the coaching staff.

Dennis Green approves of that post

 

[SoFL Husker]

Dennis Green approves of that post

 

[dand84]

I never got the hype this year really. I looked at our schedule and thought 6 wins and bowl game would be progress. I couldn't understand all the hype about the team and all predictions from fans on this board and elsewhere about winning the west, finishing X-2, etc, etc.

We didn't replace any of our linemen from last year except with people that were the scrubs the year before and a guy that never played center, or the line for that matter, as a starter.

We have no seniors on offense except Noa and Wyatt. We plays tons of freshman and sophomores and we look like a team that plays lots of underclassman.