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I think there is something to be said about the college experience and how unique it is. It’s hard to turn down those dollars but it comes with a sacrifice that doesn’t get talked about. It becomes a business overnight and despite how mature these kids are on the court, they aren’t nearly as prepared off the court. That’s what college is for. Growing up, finding out who you are, and having a little more fun before life really happens.

I’m definitely biased but there is something special about the youthful exuberance of playing within the college atmosphere and it’s something the NBA can’t offer.
 
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These players come to Duke just like all one and dones because they have to wait one year before going to the NBA. Of course the exposure is good, the short time on campus and being campus celebrities is icing on the cake. It's good competition for them but every single one of them would go right out of high school if allowed. Happy they choose Duke and they will always be Dukies but I doubt anyone of them would have graced Coach court if they had not been required to wait a year. OFC
 
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Woah, bunch of cynics. I’m not saying he was ever truly conflicted about what he would end up doing but I don’t find it hard to believe that he or a bunch of these guys at least considered the possibility of coming back. Nor do I believe that all of them would have eschewed the college experience to go straight to the draft. I’m sure I’m not the only one on here that makes plenty of money now and would trade all of it and the responsibility and headaches that go with it to be a carefree college kid again.
 
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Curious if College players were allowed to make money in endorsements and appearances, would that change the numbers of guys returning.
 
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I don’t necessarily find it all that impossible that he thought about coming back for his sophomore season because he was disappointed about not winning a national championship. Ultimately he made red right decision but look at Tre Jones not winning a national championship most likely played a big part in him deciding to come back for his sophomore season.
 
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skysdad

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skysdad said:
These players come to Duke just like all one and dones because they have to wait one year before going to the NBA. Of course the exposure is good, the short time on campus and being campus celebrities is icing on the cake. It's good competition for them but every single one of them would go right out of high school if allowed. Happy they choose Duke and they will always be Dukies but I doubt anyone of them would have graced Coach court if they had not been required to wait a year. OFC
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is he wouldn't have even considered coming to Duke much less returning if he was allowed to go straight to the NBA
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DiehardDukeFan4Life said:
I don’t necessarily find it all that impossible that he thought about coming back for his sophomore season because he was disappointed about not winning a national championship. Ultimately he made red right decision but look at Tre Jones not winning a national championship most likely played a big part in him deciding to come back for his sophomore season.
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Huge difference is

Tatum was a top 3 pick all along
Jones was more than likely a 2nd round pick

Can't compare their situations just saying cause they didn't win a title
 
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Yeah right. These players miss the parts of the college basketball lifestyle. Tatum had posted that he missed being at duke a few months ago. The money is great, but nba lifestyles are no joke with the insane amount of traveling. Dude was NEVER coming back though
 
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VaBlueDevil33 said:
Huge difference is

Tatum was a top 3 pick all along
Jones was more than likely a 2nd round pick

Can't compare their situations just saying cause they didn't win a title
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I only used Tre for a comparison because of wanting to win a National Championship because it was stated in the article that Tatum was disappointed about not winning a National Championship and he said he considered returning for that reason. I’m not sure if Tre has come out and said that he came back because he was disappointed about not winning a National Championship but based on his reaction at the end of the game it can be assumed that being disappointed about not winning a National Championship could’ve likely been a factor in him deciding to come back for his sophomore season.
 
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dukehokie said:
Same with Kyrie, Jabari, Wendell and Luol. It’s a nice interview in a dead time for college basketball, but I don’t buy it either.
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So, if it was just talk, he did not really mean it and had to be lying, right? I do not believe Jason is or ever was the type of person to spread false information, and I take offense at your insinuation. I believe him, and there is no reason in this world not to.
 
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Devilinside said:
So, if it was just talk, he did not really mean it and had to be lying, right? I do not believe Jason is or ever was the type of person to spread false information, and I take offense at your insinuation. I believe him, and there is no reason in this world not to.
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I don't think he was lying in a malicious way....but I also don't think he ever seriously considered returning for a sophomore season. It's just stuff people say sometimes. Jayson really loves Duke, and I'm sure the thought of staying seemed really cool on the surface. I just don't believe it was ever anything more passing consideration. Jayson knew he was only going to be at Duke for one season.
 
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Devilinside said:
So, if it was just talk, he did not really mean it and had to be lying, right? I do not believe Jason is or ever was the type of person to spread false information, and I take offense at your insinuation. I believe him, and there is no reason in this world not to.
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You take offense? Really????? Are you his dad or something???

It was an opinion chill our
 
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Fun to think about it happening but it’s just romanticizing the “decision” to turn pro. I’m sure it would have been cool for him to come back and play for coach one more year, but it’s not based in any reality, hence it’s just fun to talk about. No harm no foul.
 
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Devilinside said:
So, if it was just talk, he did not really mean it and had to be lying, right? I do not believe Jason is or ever was the type of person to spread false information, and I take offense at your insinuation. I believe him, and there is no reason in this world not to.
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Well that escalated quickly. You take offense?

Either way, my opinion is my opinion and it isn’t changing. I don’t think he was coming back. Sorry, not sorry. Again as I said, it’s nice fluff for an interview, but that’s as far as it goes. That’s much different than me saying “I don’t think he enjoyed being at Duke.” That was not the point of my post.

Oh well. Maybe we’ll talk about it on the podcast. Hope you tune in!
 
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dukehokie said:
Well that escalated quickly. You take offense?

Either way, my opinion is my opinion and it isn’t changing. I don’t think he was coming back. Sorry, not sorry. Again as I said, it’s nice fluff for an interview, but that’s as far as it goes. That’s much different than me saying “I don’t think he enjoyed being at Duke.” That was not the point of my post.

Oh well. Maybe we’ll talk about it on the podcast. Hope you tune in!
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Find out this week.....OTPC!
 
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dukehokie said:
Well that escalated quickly. You take offense?

Either way, my opinion is my opinion and it isn’t changing. I don’t think he was coming back. Sorry, not sorry. Again as I said, it’s nice fluff for an interview, but that’s as far as it goes. That’s much different than me saying “I don’t think he enjoyed being at Duke.” That was not the point of my post.

Oh well. Maybe we’ll talk about it on the podcast. Hope you tune in!
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I never thought he would ultimately decide he was coming back. That does not mean he could not have considered it at one point very early in the process. He was weighing his options, and I believe he was sincere in stating that he considered other possibilities.
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You take offense? Really????? Are you his dad or something???

It was an opinion chill our
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No, you are correct. I am not his Dad. But I do find it offensive to suggest that someone else is insincere in what they say when that person's character and conduct suggest just the opposite. Jason should receive the benefit of the doubt in the absence of some motive to exaggerate. The opposite is true for men like Avenatti, who you can tell are lying if their lips are moving.
 
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Devilinside said:
I never thought he would ultimately decide he was coming back. That does not mean he could not have considered it at one point very early in the process. He was weighing his options, and I believe he was sincere in stating that he considered other possibilities.

No, you are correct. I am not his Dad. But I do find it offensive to suggest that someone else is insincere in what they say when that person's character and conduct suggest just the opposite. Jason should receive the benefit of the doubt in the absence of some motive to exaggerate. The opposite is true for men like Avenatti, who you can tell are lying if their lips are moving.
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And you KNOW he is lying just cause his lips are moving why? Because someone on a message board told you or you know it for a FACT?

And my view is an opinion of mine...you don't have to agree but to take offense is funny
 
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VaBlueDevil33 said:
And you KNOW he is lying just cause his lips are moving why? Because someone on a message board told you or you know it for a FACT?

And my view is an opinion of mine...you don't have to agree but to take offense is funny
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That is a lawyer joke. Duh! "How do you tell a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving". But the point you again miss is that enough is known about Avenatti and his history of lying to reasonably doubt what he saying. Not even remotely the case with Jason.
 
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Devilinside said:
That is a lawyer joke. Duh! "How do you tell a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving". But the point you again miss is that enough is known about Avenatti and his history of lying to reasonably doubt what he saying. Not even remotely the case with Jason.
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And again I never said Tatum was lying...just said it was very hard to believe he gave a 2nd thought about coming back...And I stick to it
 
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Do I think he weighed the decision? Sure. Sounds like he loved it at duke. Do I think he considered it very long? No, no I don’t. Too many millions of reasons not to come back.
 
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LONMUNU said:
Do I think he weighed the decision? Sure. Sounds like he loved it at duke. Do I think he considered it very long? No, no I don’t. Too many millions of reasons not to come back.
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It's like this....

Tuesday night's is my golf league. I never miss it. My wife might ask me to stay home and do some chores around the house. I'll genuinely tell her I gave it serious thought to stay home and skip my one night/week out with the guys, but ultimately I always go golfing. Jayson Tatum goes golfing, too.
 
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Personally, I’m offended by everyones’ comments in this thread and I feel like my character has been assassinated. I demand an apology from EVERYONE and anything less will result in me leaving. Ball’s in our guys’ court.
 
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Devilinside said:
That is a lawyer joke. Duh! "How do you tell a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving". But the point you again miss is that enough is known about Avenatti and his history of lying to reasonably doubt what he saying. Not even remotely the case with Jason.
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I thought about not mentioning that you keep spelling his first name incorrectly. :)
 
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dukiejay said:
It's like this....

Tuesday night's is my golf league. I never miss it. My wife might ask me to stay home and do some chores around the house. I'll genuinely tell her I gave it serious thought to stay home and skip my one night/week out with the guys, but ultimately I always go golfing. Jayson Tatum goes golfing, too.
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Yes, exactly like this lol.
 
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The majority of our players truly enjoy their experience here regardless of how long they stay for. I'm sure it's part of the reason why our alumni is still so involved with the program even years after leaving. I would guess it's similar to how guys like Zion and RJ viewed the decision this year. Would they love another chance at winning a national championship? Or having another year of enjoying the college life, playing with their teammates, and learning from Coach K? Of course. Do these guys go through hypotheticals in their head about coming back and doing it again? I'm sure. I just don't think it's something they give serious consideration when they're guaranteed a high lottery pick.
 
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MyDudeG said:
The majority of our players truly enjoy their experience here regardless of how long they stay for. I'm sure it's part of the reason why our alumni is still so involved with the program even years after leaving. I would guess it's similar to how guys like Zion and RJ viewed the decision this year. Would they love another chance at winning a national championship? Or having another year of enjoying the college life, playing with their teammates, and learning from Coach K? Of course. Do these guys go through hypotheticals in their head about coming back and doing it again? I'm sure. I just don't think it's something they give serious consideration when they're guaranteed a high lottery pick.
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Don't think Zion or RJ ever considered staying in school, nor did they ever say they did.
 
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