Jones was at Scrimmage sat and said he was unreal.
Looking like Baker and Richardson starters outside with Juice in the slot.
Looking like Baker and Richardson starters outside with Juice in the slot.
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Odd. The staff seemed to mention their youth showing at times. Conversely, Keyaune Ross scored 2 touchdowns, Dorian Baker scored 1, and Jeff Badet scored 1.
Anyone have an idea how we're gonna take advantage of having a bunch of (supposedly) good WRs when we need blocking help up front? Seems like we can't go 4/5 WR sets because we'll need TEs in to block.
quick outs, slants, wr screens. plus we are going to be running the ball quite a bit and hopefully effectively, setting up for downfield playaction.
Yep ^^ Set tempo with short passing game, timing routes using 3 step drop to take the edge off the rush and put defense on their heels. Then mix in some go routes to TE and Big WR.
The few times Dawson did this last year we started moving chains and Towels actually looked sharp. See start of Auburn game. Then it would evolve back into hand offs and deep throws or read and throw routes and deteriorated.
Give me any QB with any kind of arm and have them throw to a spot on a 3 step drop to a 6-5 WR and I'll move the chains.
The few times Dawson did this last year we started moving chains and Towels actually looked sharp. See start of Auburn game. Then it would evolve back into hand offs and deep throws or read and throw routes and deteriorated.
Give me any QB with any kind of arm and have them throw to a spot on a 3 step drop to a 6-5 WR and I'll move the chains.
Oh god, sounds like a lot of 3rd and 7's/8's coming our way.
I tend to tune in later in the process, so I haven't really looked at Gran's offense much. Are we talking like a pro set run, spread dive plays, run/pass option stuff? Maybe we can throw in some end arounds or something?
I just know from what I've seen the last few years, our blocking has been atrocious. Tate doesn't sound ready, and I sure hope Mosier has tightened up. My worry is that we have all this WR talent and can't keep a QB on his feet for 3 steps to utilize it.
Seems you've missed on the reports. The offensive line has received far and away the most praise of any unit on our team. More than the defensive backs, more than the wide receivers, seriously, more than anybody. They've been good, and especially Cole Mosier. He's received a ton of praise, and many close to the program feels that he's going to genuinely be good this year.
You also seem to grossly overestimate the difficulty of blocking for a 3 step drop and a quick pass. The biggest reason that Kentucky struggled at times last year was because of how long Dawson would demand for the ball to be in the quarterback's hands on pass plays. Nevermind the fact that "just go long" is incredibly stupid and very inaccurate, but the QB just has to hold the ball for far too long.
Gran's offense is ran out of the shotgun and pistol formations primarily, uses pro-style principles in how it is ran. The pass plays are generally short routes that involve a lot of crossing routes and rubs to get receivers open more easily. Nevermind the fact that our receivers are mostly big guys that are hard to defend in the passing game anyway, but defensive backs are mostly going to run into other big receivers which will make it that much harder for the DB's to keep stride with the receivers. There will be a few other plays where receivers will go long, obviously, as is the case with every other offense in the world, but it's not a staple. Screens and QB runs will also be ran a fair amount to really keep linebackers on their toes.
Personally, I think your concerns for our offensive line are all for naught. They'll be fine.
Get rid of the ball the instant it touches your hands?
I have only seen that once in my life on a consistent basis, that was in a flag football National Championship tournament in Las Vegas that I helped officiate, about 120 teams in three divisions, played on a golf driving range next to Sam Boyd Stadium on about a dozen fields. Started at 6AM on Friday morning and ended about 11PM Sunday night, with three winners, the overall finalists from Baltimore and San Diego, I officiated a dozen games a couple of those days.
Anyway this QB had a LOT of practice, 55 years old they said and once with the Rams, the ball barely touched his hands on most plays. His favorite target was his older brother, LOL. They had played for decades together, they didn't win the whole thing but made a great showing.
It really was amazing how fast he got rid of the ball, almost like a touch pass in basketball a lot of the time. I'm afraid our QBs might run out of eligibility before they get as good as him though.
By the way, you seem awfully negative, some commentators have said they thought we will have the best WR corp in the SEC east, you have heard of the SEC haven't you? And our TEs will be very good at catching balls also.
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1. I love the roster setting up that allows Juice to stay inside at the slot WR and be the headache for defense he was last year. over the middle.
2. Badet is a legit speed burner...but if Richardson can take some reps on the outside...than that is a really good thing to me.
I agree the success of the offense really leans a ton on how much out pass protection on the outside tackle spots improves to take advantage of these weapons. I'm still leary of hearing Mosier locking down a LT spot...but if he's the best we got...then all you can do is ride him out and see what he can do this year.
2. Badet is a legit speed burner...but if Richardson can take some reps on the outside...than that is a really good thing to me.
I agree the success of the offense really leans a ton on how much out pass protection on the outside tackle spots improves to take advantage of these weapons. I'm still leary of hearing Mosier locking down a LT spot...but if he's the best we got...then all you can do is ride him out and see what he can do this year.
No, that would just be the opposite. Those happen when you have a downfield pass on first down when the QB has not time to throw and miss it, then come back with the (mandatory it seems) hand off on second and 10.
Throwing short on first down should help get into shorter third down scenarios.
won't know until game 1, but from the times I watch Cincy in recent years I'd call his system a "power spread". our personnel will be spread out, 3 & 4 wide, even the tight ends will split out, but run plays will run power off tackle. and probably be close to 50/50 run/pass. definitely will be some QB run/option plays. in passing plays I don't think he will be a Mumme/Leach type with 5 in the pattern, he will keep guys back to help protect the QB.
Good chance we see 3 wide and a tight end fairly regularly. Not only will it help the tackles in games against really talented ends, but CJ is one of our better receivers. It's a two for one in that case. He can stay in and block or run a route. Will depend on the situation.
Our wr core will make some noise this year. Next year though. Damn. Gonna be fun to watch.
Edit: our resident grammar police have taken notice. It's corps not core. Carry on.
Edit: our resident grammar police have taken notice. It's corps not core. Carry on.
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This makes me think tackle is even more important, and that whatever back can pass protect will be the back that plays the most. Neither has been a plus in recent years.
I think we will see TE sets as slots because we won't be running 5 sec routes that Dawson put us in all the time...that was a disaster for our OL no matter how good they could have been
I truly feel like you're just trying to think of any and all deficiencies in spite of the recent practice reports, and regardless of whatever they may say.
You're being a bit unreasonable in your gripe, imo.
I'm not griping, I'm trying to figure out what we want to do on offense and how it relates to our past performance. I haven't heard a ton about practice reports, except that Mosier is improved an Leavett (sp?) isn't ready. I really hope Mosier is improved. I haven't heard anything about running backs blocking. Neither was a plus for us before. Or, I could be totally off. I'm just trying to think through the best ways to use our WR talent.
He may be.
But stoops was singing a lot praise at this time last year.
I hope this year us different.
Our OL will be better this year.
When we land guys like Young Jackson Leavitt...all four stars...and they can't crack the starting lineup...especially Young...it shows they are better.
This WR corps will show out this year. We have veteran playmakers.
The biggest difference is we have a good OC now in Gran. We will score points. Move the chains. We will mix run with pass and Gran will use the backs and TEs as safety valves to slow the rush.
When we land guys like Young Jackson Leavitt...all four stars...and they can't crack the starting lineup...especially Young...it shows they are better.
This WR corps will show out this year. We have veteran playmakers.
The biggest difference is we have a good OC now in Gran. We will score points. Move the chains. We will mix run with pass and Gran will use the backs and TEs as safety valves to slow the rush.
You do make a great point. The fact we are starting to land some 4 star offensive line types and they don't start from day 1 is better than where we have been in the past. I do get that sometimes a less talented guy will beat out a more talented guy based on strength and conditioning being better after staying a few years in the program, but still, some of these 4 star guys could have went to some pretty good football schools and they chose Kentucky and now it looks like they won't even be starting as freshman. Anytime you start a bunch of freshman, you're in trouble. I love the fact we're starting to get more talent all over the field. If this coaching staff doesn't work out, the next will have a bunch of thank you cards to send Stoops and company.
I'm just a dum ***. I don't know words. I'll be fort chu nut to complete this sentence?
Only if you pronounce corps like Obama does.
We signed 4 four stars and one five star and none of the five are starting. MOF, none of our true Frosh from our 29th ranked class are even being talked about as vying for a starting position at this time. When is the last time this could have occurred? We're not without some talent.
Let that sink in.
Let that sink in.
The Oline was horrid last year. It has been a weakness for decades. No poster is unreasonable for stating the obvious with this unit.
Let's let them prove it against teams in other jerseys before shunning someone's opinion. We have heard spring time accolades for years.
I am concerned about the oline, dline, lbers, and qb as of today. I am optimistic that barker and a lber or two will shine.
:football::football::football:do you really think he even knows what this is? Must have made the wrong turn headed to the JCC to see if JC had pooped yet that day.