Tennessee player arrested
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Sad day for his family. That charge is probably the one thing that will haunt him for the rest of his life. All I can say at this point is "Let go, and let God"...for He is the only path for redemption at this point. I have personally been involved in 2 of these cases (family member, co-worker). Not only was the offender's life ruined, the families suffered the consequences as well. No matter how much I wish it to be NOT true, in the digital age, the T's are crossed and the I's are dotted when you get to the point where charges are brought. Some will argue that this is entrapment, but it really doesn't matter. Underage is underage, end of story.
That's just an individual sick in the head. Hard to blame Knoxville for this any more than we would let anyone blame UK for Porter
He's apparently just an idiot
He's apparently just an idiot
UT's now had 3 current or former players arrested in the last couple of days for acts of nefarious malfeasance. Return to the glory days indeed.
True. Good post. I hate it when this sort of thing occurs. Help and prayer are needed on both sides.
Another one arrested last night - a DT who beat and chocked his girlfriend.
Former Vol Cosey Coleman also charged with Agg assault in Florida yesterday - apparently he was two prior domestic violence charges as well.
No coach can ever prevent this but the test is whether you excuse it and keep him on the team, or show him the door. History shows Jones will likely cling to him unless forced to act from above.
Tennessee hasn't won the SEC since the 1990s and saying "we are so so so young!" every year will get old soon.
Former Vol Cosey Coleman also charged with Agg assault in Florida yesterday - apparently he was two prior domestic violence charges as well.
No coach can ever prevent this but the test is whether you excuse it and keep him on the team, or show him the door. History shows Jones will likely cling to him unless forced to act from above.
Tennessee hasn't won the SEC since the 1990s and saying "we are so so so young!" every year will get old soon.
This is the school that gave sideline passes to rapists last fall so their "blame it on the victim" ploy is working very well.
I just can't get any enjoyment out of seeing a college kid suffer whether it be by his own doing or something else. I have 2 kids in college and another headed there next year. We have done everything in our power to give our kids guidance, support and every advantage we could think of to help them succeed in this crazy world with all of it's temptations and opportunities to screw up. That is about all you can do. You can't choose their friends or the nefarious characters they may meet at school or work. You just hope and pray that they are strong enough not to be follow these people down the wrong road. We have been pretty lucky so far but you never know when a teenager will do something completely unexpected.
Many of these kids we read about did not have parents looking out for them. Many of them are just as mature as their parents by the time they are 12 years old. Many of them would be destined to die at an early age if it wasn't for their talent at a particular sport. College sports does gets them out of a bad environment but sometimes the they just aren't prepared to make the adjustment. I am not excusing these crimes as we all are ultimately responsible for our actions. However, I am saddened every time I read about a kid, whether he be from UT, UofL, Ohio St or wherever, who has a chance at a productive life and he throws it all away over some stupid decision.
It does seem that some of these schools have a higher rate of these crimes by players than others. Maybe it is the policies of the school and coach or maybe it has more to do with the kids they are recruiting. I think some programs shy away from potentially troubled kids as they don't want the headache and other programs probably take an excessive number of high risk kids to gain a recruiting advantage. I am not going to say that the former is completely without merit. Some of those high risk kids make the most of the opportunity and make it in life. However, the school and the coach bare some responsibility. If you know you are bringing in kids who have a higher than normal likelihood of failure, it is incumbent on you to have the proper programs and guidance in place to help them make the transition.
Many of these kids we read about did not have parents looking out for them. Many of them are just as mature as their parents by the time they are 12 years old. Many of them would be destined to die at an early age if it wasn't for their talent at a particular sport. College sports does gets them out of a bad environment but sometimes the they just aren't prepared to make the adjustment. I am not excusing these crimes as we all are ultimately responsible for our actions. However, I am saddened every time I read about a kid, whether he be from UT, UofL, Ohio St or wherever, who has a chance at a productive life and he throws it all away over some stupid decision.
It does seem that some of these schools have a higher rate of these crimes by players than others. Maybe it is the policies of the school and coach or maybe it has more to do with the kids they are recruiting. I think some programs shy away from potentially troubled kids as they don't want the headache and other programs probably take an excessive number of high risk kids to gain a recruiting advantage. I am not going to say that the former is completely without merit. Some of those high risk kids make the most of the opportunity and make it in life. However, the school and the coach bare some responsibility. If you know you are bringing in kids who have a higher than normal likelihood of failure, it is incumbent on you to have the proper programs and guidance in place to help them make the transition.
How is the college coach suppose to know about some bad decisions? He can't get access to juvy records and many if not most of these kids are 17-18 years old. If the HS coach is wanting to help the kid out and give him a chance he isn't going to tell him, family isn't, Not taking up for Jones or any other coach who has kids who get into trouble, and I try not to bash a program who signs them because we are all going to get a turn sooner or later. The kid Richt dismissed for beating up his gf was a good kid, no indication in his history he would beat up a female. Now Saban knew when he signed him out of JUCO which is a different story.
Headline you will always see:
"Tennessee Player Arrested"
Headline you will never see:
"Tennessee Player Convicted"
"Tennessee Player Arrested"
Headline you will never see:
"Tennessee Player Convicted"
Doesn't it seem odd that some programs are constantly having trouble with kids getting arrested???
mostly agree. there are rumors out there about certain players and some coaches back off and some turn a blind eye. when ul recruited a kid lsu dropped because of statutory rape allegations... most schools had backed off but ul and it's fans said "innocent until proven guilty take the kid, he's a good athlete". only after about a month of the local media being outraged that ul had accepted his loi after he was found guilty did jurich and petrino finally cut him loose.
i'd say ut does this some as well just going off rumors. reading the national boards it seems that some kids get in trouble on recruiting visits and are done with that school. rumor gets out and a couple schools back off and ut goes from 3rd to first for his services. i think butch probably is doing a lot better job policing it then his predecessors though. he is kicking kids off the team... even starters. dooley and kiffin seemed to just be willfully ignorant.
I know nothing about the statutory rape charge at Louisville, but some of those aren't what they seem. In Georgia 16 is age of consent, so a 16 year old boy and his 15 year old girlfriend could doing their thing and her parents find out, take out charges against the boy who might be a month older than the girl. I had a kid who was a sr, dating and 8th grader, I warned him she was too young, but his reply was "we are in love". The girl's mom allowed him to spend weekend nights with the girl at her house, well they broke up, mom filed charges and the kid spent 5 years in state prison and is now a registered sex offender. Mom was thrilled her daughter was dating a Sr. So I take statutory rape cases with a grain of salt unless I know how it actually went down.
They know Grumpy. I am friends with a couple of the assistant coaches on UK's staff. A lot of times they know more about these recruits than their own parents know. The amount of communication between a coach and a recruit is over the top. They may or may not know about specific incidents but they get a really good flavor for the type of kid they are dealing with.
it was a 16 yo with his 12 yo cousin. it continued to when he was 18 and she was 14. 12 yo is too young period.
It's all about responsibility. These coaches have a responsibility to raise these guys with a set of values besides just doing whatever it takes to win. A lot of coaches could care less about teaching their guys morals and values, and I'd say Butch Jones is one of those.
Used to be said "recruit players with character, not characters." Guess some got away from that.
At least UT has had a few quality young athletes with high character they can brag about, like Peyton Manning.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Enjoy it, guys. Until it happens to one of yours. Not saying I'm a priest or a preacher, but some things transcend sports. This is one of them. Even with his degree, what are the chances Mack will EVER get a decent job? That is the tragedy in this. Yeah, you make youthful mistakes (Lord knows I have). But some mistakes are forever.
Just so I can fully understand, you're trying to make us feel bad for the fact a pedophile might have a lower quality of life, right? I'm reading that correctly?
String him up from a tree and let his big *** swing, either by his neck or by his sac. I'm a forgiving enough type of guy to let him choose.
If you read all of his posts, he's not making excuses for the guy, AND he isn't claiming he's more of a victim than any potential young girl. However, it is a very sad situation all the way around. I agree with him that I hate it for all families involved.