You’re not going to get a “superstar” that way. You hold a spot for guys who return and land one of those. This guy is a different level though. He could be the missing piece for a top 5 team. He played a huge role in tt getting back and beating ark. If there is a legit “superstar” out there this guy fits the bill
Texas Tech's Darrion Williams Enters Portal
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PJ has apparently shrunk 2 inches because he was always listed at 6'8" when he played here. I see that ESPN lists him at 6'6" now, but besides that, do you consider PJ a great rebounder?
I would gladly take Williams, I just don't think he's the it guy to turn around the rebounding weakness that we had this past season. Now, JT Toppin on the other hand...
Exactly right.
Lots of 6’6-6’7 superstar PFs.
Charles Barkley
Karl Malone
Larry Johnson
Corliss Williamson
Draymond Green
Chuck Hayes
Zion Williamson
Just the ones off the top of my head.
He dominated Floridas 7 footers. They couldn't do anything with him. This dude is perfect for Pope offense
PJ was a good pf is what I was getting at. So was Grant Williams at that height
I guess you didn't watch him play much. He's dominant in the post and can make outside shots
Boy some of yall don’t watch a lick of basketball. Williams absolutely played the 4 at Texas tech. Hawkins was the primary guard, McMillan and Anderson were the other guards. Overton came in off the bench, Toppin was center and Federiko federiko was the backup big. Kerwin started in place of an injured McMillan the last few weeks of the season.
Darrion Williams is very similar to former vol grant williams. Can make an outside shot, but despite their height they can play bull ball.
Darrion Williams is very similar to former vol grant williams. Can make an outside shot, but despite their height they can play bull ball.
That’s because it was standard practice during the Cal era to fudge height listings up a slight bit …presumably to help with their pro stock. Nearly all our Cal guys measured at the NBA combine below what we were told when they were here.
PJ is now listed at 6’6” because that is his actual height. Those 6’8” listings you saw in college were pure smoke and mirrors BS.
PJ Washington measured 6'8" in shoes according to the NBA's official measurements (6'6.5" without shoes) for the 2019 Combine. Basketball players play in shoes, so it seems like the 6'8" measurement is the proper one to use. What does Cal have to do with the NBA's offcial numbers unless you are alleging that he has enough influence over NBA officials to fudge their numbers too?
https://www.nbadraft.net/2019-nba-draft-combine-measurements/
Maybe I'm way off, but Grant Williams is considered one of the worst rebounding PF in the NBA, right? He's definitely not dominant in that area.
If you do wait on a “superstar” you better be sure he isn’t going to leave you hanging. In other words, don’t be caught with an incomplete roster because a guy decides last minute to stay in the draft.
I would hate to get this guy instead of Folgueiras and then he goes pro and Pope is scrambling to find a decent player to man the 4.
Those are the ones you recruit. But you better be sure they will show up before committing to them.
I wanted Lendeborg, but I am not so sure we didn’t dodge a bullet with him, because if he can go first round (some have him projected first round) then he may be gone and we would be scrambling to find a replacement.
This kid lacks legit NBA size, so he’s likely to return to college.
This. Why I said he wasn't a 1st rounder. Nobody is drafting that dude.
NBA? I wouldn't know. Grant Williams a stud college player though.
Yeah, but…he does not look to be a good rebounder. I’m not saying we need a great rebounder at PF, but we do need a good (above average) one since it looks like Garrison may be our C and he is also a poor rebounder.
Lastly, how is his defense? All anyone is talking about is players offense, until the season starts and then they complain about defense.
Lastly, how is his defense? All anyone is talking about is players offense, until the season starts and then they complain about defense.
Texas tech ad a team was a good defensive team and he played good defense in the tournament from what I could tell. I know 100% he can handle the SEC physicality because that really stood out to me.
Not sure anyone cares what he can do in the NBA. Williams was very good in college.
I'd think Pope would consider it. But I wasn't talking about guys who are already on the roster.
Oweh put his name in the draft primarily to get feedback. I think he's pretty well set on returning and working on what he needs to improve his draft stock next year.
There's been bits and pieces tossed out there about some foreign guys as well. Have to wonder if the Wildcard isn't a surprise player from overseas?
Nobody is disputing that the former SEC Player of the Year was good in college. Nobody is disputing that Darrion Williams is also good.
The question is about rebounding ability to address one of our greatest weaknesses from last season.
Pope would be running himself pretty thin at the 4/5. You would think after the injuries last year he would make sure he was covered at key positions.
Agreed. A lot of unknown going into next season also depends on Malachi Moreno.
Certainly. It would be a pretty big gamble by the staff if this were true.
Not only would it be a big gamble considering the injuries we had last year, but also our rebounding deficiencies. I know size isn't everything when it comes to rebounding, but it's certainly a lot. I just don't see a way that we don't add two more bigs.
By comparison, UK spent a little less than $4M on its ENTIRE roster this past season!
This is why Mitch/ big donors are dragging the hind tit on NIL this recruiting cycle! They were not expecting the “market value” that some programs are placing on top portal/ freshman prospects!
You have to wait. I would say several guys return for the nil and that’s like a second recruiting season. You gotta hold a spot for a guy who can play the 3/4 in Williams or any number of the undersized guys who need another year. At the same time if they are all committed well that’s that. But holding a spot for a late guy is a must I feel. There are so many variables a coaching fire, nba guys, euro, injured transfer for next year. And if your team is salty about bringing in a guy who will take 30 of their minutes a game and be one of the top guys well then you don’t have the right guys. Popes system has plenty of time for folguieras and another Williams. These guys play two different games and pope will get his 20 minutes or more if he’s great. It’s a guy like cam Williams who expects to be oad at Kentucky who would take the biggest hit
With or without shoes? Age 25 or age 60?
Malone's list height as a player was always 6'9". If all players are consistently overmeasured by 1-2 inches, then you need to take everybody else down 2 inches too. Are we sure Darrion Williams isn't actually 6'4"?
People can shrink or develop different posture as well. Mark Pope doesn't seem as tall as he was when he played here.
Regardless, Karl Malone is a Hall of Famer with massive body that could dominate the glass. Dennis Rodman was probably the best rebounder of all-time and he was no taller than 6'7". The height isn't really the point, it's the skill-level and aggression at grabbing boards. Manute Bol was a terrible rebounder because he was always outmuscled and outworked by smaller but stronger and more aggressive players.