IHSA did what we hoped- basketball and other winter sports are a go. Wrestling has been moved to summer season though, April-June. Thank you IHSA for doing what is best for kids.
Thank you IHSA!- Maybe not, JB says bball spring 21
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Zero liability, impossible to prove you pick a virus up the minute you visit more than one place in a day. Call his bluff. Or do waivers. Impossible to prove with any liability. Pressure will be on school boards now.
I agree with you but school officials and particularly, public school administrators, are typically not the risk taking type. Chubby boy in Springfield has shown he doesn't play fair and this is all political. We know where public school personnel typically lean politically. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. As much as I like to think this is decided and done, this is likely just the beginning.
You’re wrong. Chubby boy is not in Springfield. He’s in Lake Geneva.
Yes, this is far from done but for any positive to happen there had to be pushback. This is a start.
It sounds like Pritzker himself would have to answer the question on legal liability. Here is his exact quote today:
“The contact-tracing data doesn’t tell you where somebody caught [the virus]. In fact, there’s no way, really, to know where somebody contracted COVID19.” - Governor Pritzker, October 28, 2020
“The contact-tracing data doesn’t tell you where somebody caught [the virus]. In fact, there’s no way, really, to know where somebody contracted COVID19.” - Governor Pritzker, October 28, 2020
Could be a "long game" going on here to move the CTU off their hard stance against stepping a foot in a school building? If CPL can play, but doesn't due to resistance to re-opening plans by the teacher union, I suspect public pressure could hurt the CTU position.
The issue that may need to be addressed is whether or not liability insurance will be valid for coaches or officials if they are participating in an activity that violates a governor's EO or the recommendations of the IDPH/ISBE.
Can see CPS playing at all until kids are back in school in some form.
Well then people need to start putting the pressure on the CPS and all other entities that control the thought process of the CPS. Can't fight everyone's battles for them.
JB going for the throat now...basketball will be in the spring!
Heres a thought. IHSA, which really has no control, says let the season start. Governor unhappy, but knows he has a higher level of control than the IHSA, so he brings out the big club of liability, insurability, and funding...
But what does he do with school districts that continue to ignore, carefully, the changing regional levels? Schools, although their regions have been pushed back, have not all lock-stepped and gone remote. As such, the big club of liability, insurability, and funding has not been mentioned...If the kids are going to school everyday, even with the rollback, we might as well let them play sports. Besides, the good basketball players might just find an AAU team for the winter in Indiana, Wisconsin, etc. and take their money out of state.
But what does he do with school districts that continue to ignore, carefully, the changing regional levels? Schools, although their regions have been pushed back, have not all lock-stepped and gone remote. As such, the big club of liability, insurability, and funding has not been mentioned...If the kids are going to school everyday, even with the rollback, we might as well let them play sports. Besides, the good basketball players might just find an AAU team for the winter in Indiana, Wisconsin, etc. and take their money out of state.
They'll find an in-state AAU team, but play everywhere else. There are a lot of basketball/Football dual athletes out there too.
What makes you think under JB control stuff goes back to normal in a few months?
Lots and lots of pressure and lost lawsuits, as well as, an election being over that he doesn't have to pander to for another couple of years.
He has stood his ground and has no reason to back down. He is a power hungry billionaire with no political pressure until April of 22 at the earliest.
Well some of the others are starting to crumble and question him, in time he will crumble too. I'd rather fight him than give up.
Spring 2021
JB: Conditions have not changed like we anticipated so I’m pushing all sports back to fall 2021. If other states don’t care about the well being of their children and want to play sports that’s on them.
This is like a soap opera. IHSA says just now that yep, we are still moving on despite JB today
"We asked Ezike to share her data. She said no"
CPS is spineless.
Dear CPS Community,
Now more than ever, we know how important it is to provide students with opportunities that allow them to build skills and work toward positive goals, which is why we have committed to supporting state-authorized high school sports this school year.
As we approach the beginning of the winter sports season, Governor J.B. Pritzker and the Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) have released updated guidance on low-risk winter sports that can proceed this year. Under the revised guidance from state leaders, the following CPS high school sports are currently scheduled to move forward in the winter:
Due to concerns about the transmission of COVID-19, Governor Pritzker and IDPH announced that the following high-risk winter sports will be postponed or moved to spring or summer 2021:
Our district has a rich basketball tradition, and we know that this is not the outcome so many of our students, parents and coaches wanted to see, but Gov. Pritzker, IDPH, and the Illinois State Board of Education have made it clear that basketball should not be played this winter as it presents a significant risk to participants and members of the school community. We are following their guidance and committed to supporting all sports that can proceed safely this winter.
As we’ve shared previously, it will take all of us working together to make this school year a success. Please continue to be well and stay safe.
Sincerely,
LaTanya D. McDade David Rosengard
Chief Education Officer Executive Director of Sports Administration
Chicago Public Schools Chicago Public Schools
Dear CPS Community,
Now more than ever, we know how important it is to provide students with opportunities that allow them to build skills and work toward positive goals, which is why we have committed to supporting state-authorized high school sports this school year.
As we approach the beginning of the winter sports season, Governor J.B. Pritzker and the Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) have released updated guidance on low-risk winter sports that can proceed this year. Under the revised guidance from state leaders, the following CPS high school sports are currently scheduled to move forward in the winter:
- Competitive Cheerleading
- Competitive Dance
- Girls and Boys Bowling
- Boys Swimming and Diving
Due to concerns about the transmission of COVID-19, Governor Pritzker and IDPH announced that the following high-risk winter sports will be postponed or moved to spring or summer 2021:
- Girls and Boys High School Basketball is postponed until further notice
- Girls and Boys Elementary School Basketball is postponed until further notice
- Wrestling (Tentative start date: April 19-June 26, 2021)
Our district has a rich basketball tradition, and we know that this is not the outcome so many of our students, parents and coaches wanted to see, but Gov. Pritzker, IDPH, and the Illinois State Board of Education have made it clear that basketball should not be played this winter as it presents a significant risk to participants and members of the school community. We are following their guidance and committed to supporting all sports that can proceed safely this winter.
As we’ve shared previously, it will take all of us working together to make this school year a success. Please continue to be well and stay safe.
Sincerely,
LaTanya D. McDade David Rosengard
Chief Education Officer Executive Director of Sports Administration
Chicago Public Schools Chicago Public Schools
I'm sure some districts like CPS and some suburbs will do whatever JB says. I'm also sure some downstate IL and some suburbs will decide to go ahead with basketball November 16th. Essentially there will be two basketball seasons. Weird play by JB this week. Moving basketball to high risk was a strange play when no other organization nationally or internationally has it as such and allowing contact days the last 2 months with basketball having almost no hiccups. Then, switching it right before the season starts. A refusal to communicate or work together at all with the IHSA. By April 2022 these high schoolers are votes usually for his side in this state, not sure if that will remain the case the way he's played this. For JB the smart move probably would have been putting it on hold and leaving it at medium risk. This would have allowed teams to practice. He could have re-evaluated moving to games every two weeks then at some point move it to Spring. IHSA in fall announced the November start date but said they wouldn't be shocked if it were pushed back to December or January. The point JB switched it to high risk the IHSA new what JB was going to do i.e. shutdown everything all school year. That's where we were headed. At that point they were done with him. Even had he kept it at medium risk and pushed it back to spring on Tuesday they still may have gone for that. Now, everyone's heels are dug in.
The best explanation of what's going on is think of the IHSA as a patient and JB and the ISBE as a doctor for this patient they diagnose this patient and give them a treatment. Initially, the IHSA the patient in this case accepts everything the doctor says. Then, starts talking to people and decides to get a second opinion. They get the same diagnosis but a different treatment plan. Then they go see a 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. doctor and all are making the same diagnosis but the teatment plan from JB/ISBE is very different than the treatment plan from all the other doctors. Meanwhile all the other doctors treatment plans all line up with each other. This is why the IHSA decided to go with the decision they have.
The best explanation of what's going on is think of the IHSA as a patient and JB and the ISBE as a doctor for this patient they diagnose this patient and give them a treatment. Initially, the IHSA the patient in this case accepts everything the doctor says. Then, starts talking to people and decides to get a second opinion. They get the same diagnosis but a different treatment plan. Then they go see a 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. doctor and all are making the same diagnosis but the teatment plan from JB/ISBE is very different than the treatment plan from all the other doctors. Meanwhile all the other doctors treatment plans all line up with each other. This is why the IHSA decided to go with the decision they have.
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This, by far, is the infuriating part. Has anyone seen the South Park about Joseph Smith and the Mormon Church? When Joseph Smith can read the tablets, but nobody else could?
Basically, JB and Ezike are telling us, "We are making decisions that have enormous impact on your lives and livelihoods, but you're not grown up enough to see the actual data that we're using to base these decisions on."
That is unacceptable, and demands open revolt.
We often hear Putzker lecturing us that "a leader does this ... a leader does that." Lemme tell ya,' a true and real leader does not have to talk about being one.
CPS didn't allow contact days when the rest of the state allowed contact days. In the low risk sports CPS did sanction to play in the fall, CPS decided they wouldn't provide transportation to and from contests, which forced many schools to cancel their seasons. CPS isn't going to provide transportation in the winter for these sports either, so many schools will be forced to cancel their seasons. CPS has seemingly no interest in doing what is best for kids. Let alone what is best for true football fans in denying us an entire season of Thursday double headers at Rockne.
I think Pritzker realizes he is a one term governor finally and is going to take the heat for some "allies". For example, he closes down Chicago for Halloween weekend - and Mayor Lightfoot can now act like the victim as he's shutting down businesses which are hanging on by a thread because of her prior actions. Meanwhile, the shut down collar counties are openly hostile to the shutdown. Local police are choosing the theory that it is not their duty to enforce the emergency orders - it is the state's duty. The state doesn't have enough people to do it. Enforcement then is lacking...
And technically the schools in downgraded areas should have gone to remote learning...but they aren't. The only school in Kankakee county to make a material change is Herscher, which moved the high school to remote after 8 cases were announced in the building last week. But the lower grades are still attending in person. HHS will go back in person on the 9th.
Pritzker must be expecting a challenge in court. The IHSA has taken itself out of the equation by announcing "Play Ball!" If the IHSA continues with no state tournament, does it really matter if CPS plays in March and downstate plays the normal season? Control by the regional school superintendants may not be too bad...Mystery science isn't cutting it anymore. Schools have their statistics for contact days, open gyms and the like. School districts are going to start wandering, and we will see if the state actually does something...
Kind of like when someone has to constantly tell people how tough he is, how rich he is, how smart he is, how patriotic he is, how popular he is, etc.