Thanksgiving Travels

docrugby1

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Thanksgiving is one of the busiest travel periods of the year. If you are on the road and encounter a uniformed member of our armed services, buy them a cup of coffee, lunch or dinner. Many of these men and women have limited resources and will appreciate the show of respect. and you will feel pretty good also,. Wishing you safe travels and a fabulous Thanksgiving with your families
 

Alaskawildkat

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This afternoon as I was switching radio stations in my vehicle I caught a feature on the Ramsey Show radio program that taught me something new that was old about the origin of Thanksgiving. Usually he gives advice about how to get out of debt so it was surprising to hear the feature.

He shared the Proclamation that Lincoln had made which established Thanksgiving as a holiday.

Definitely some parallels to what the nation has been through of late and the challenges that had been faced back in 1863:

Here for all:

Transcript for President Abraham Lincoln’s Thanksgiving Proclamation from October 3, 1863
By the President of the United States A Proclamation
The year that is drawing toward its close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature that they cannot fail to penetrate and even soften the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever-watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign states to invite and provoke their aggressions, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere, except in the theater of military conflict; while that theater has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.
Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defense have not arrested the plow, the shuttle, or the ship; the ax has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege, and the battlefield, and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised, nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American people. I do, therefore, invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the heavens. And I recommend to them that, while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him
for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners, or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty hand to heal the wounds of the nation, and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes, to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union.
 

mountaindrew

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This afternoon as I was switching radio stations in my vehicle I caught a feature on the Ramsey Show radio program that taught me something new that was old about the origin of Thanksgiving. Usually he gives advice about how to get out of debt so it was surprising to hear the feature.

He shared the Proclamation that Lincoln had made which established Thanksgiving as a holiday.

Definitely some parallels to what the nation has been through of late and the challenges that had been faced back in 1863:

Here for all:

Transcript for President Abraham Lincoln’s Thanksgiving Proclamation from October 3, 1863
By the President of the United States A Proclamation
The year that is drawing toward its close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature that they cannot fail to penetrate and even soften the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever-watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign states to invite and provoke their aggressions, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere, except in the theater of military conflict; while that theater has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.
Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defense have not arrested the plow, the shuttle, or the ship; the ax has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege, and the battlefield, and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised, nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American people. I do, therefore, invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the heavens. And I recommend to them that, while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him
for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners, or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty hand to heal the wounds of the nation, and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes, to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union.

Thanks, Alaska. That's great stuff. Good Ole Abe... I love the message about basic gratitude. No doubt. God bless that man.

OK. At the risk of..... ah, heck with it. Sorry, Mr. Abe. I'm reminded of a very esteemed member of this board of a decade or so ago, whose tag line went: "Tis better to be brief than tedious." A great thought which I myself rarely heed.

Still, I must object. So Mr. Lincoln, uh.... finish sentences much?
 
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Hungry Jack

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A few days ago, someone told me that anyone who celebrates Thanksgiving is racist. I had to go gouge my eyes with a turkey baster to clear my brain of that thought.

Hopefully we all can think of things to be thankful for. Life brings blessings and curses to all of us, though clearly in varying proportions. Whenever possible, count your blessings, and share them.
 

villox

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A few days ago, someone told me that anyone who celebrates Thanksgiving is racist. I had to go gouge my eyes with a turkey baster to clear my brain of that thought.

Hopefully we all can think of things to be thankful for. Life brings blessings and curses to all of us, though clearly in varying proportions. Whenever possible, count your blessings, and share them.
The Women’s March org had to apologize for emailing supporters that their average donation was $14.92 because they didn’t notice that this NUMBER was related to Columbus’ conquest of indigenous peoples.

insanity!
 

Eurocat

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A few days ago, someone told me that anyone who celebrates Thanksgiving is racist.

What bothers me about this line of thinking it that it makes the Indian's out to be docile people who never went to war with each other. In fact the tribes were in a non-stop battle for who would rule over what piece of territory. "Scalping" was a real thing, not a joke for little kids books.

The Indians for the most part were warriors not some kind of early day hippy nature lovers. Of COURSE the Europeans fought with them That's the way the world was back then.
 

Hungry Jack

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What bothers me about this line of thinking it that it makes the Indian's out to be docile people who never went to war with each other. In fact the tribes were in a non-stop battle for who would rule over what piece of territory. "Scalping" was a real thing, not a joke for little kids books.

The Indians for the most part were warriors not some kind of early day hippy nature lovers. Of COURSE the Europeans fought with them That's the way the world was back then.
This probably comes across as unduly harsh, but native North Americans were centuries behind Europe technologically. Most tribes were hunter-gatherers who lived in harmony with the abundance that the continent provided, but whose lifestyle could never support a large population center. In the history of mankind, societies with superior technology have almost always prevailed.

That’s not justification of atrocities committed against native tribes, but it is a clear indication that the tribes’ means of living was very incongruent with a rapidly developing western world.