The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?

[The Pitchfork Rebel]

Significantly, as expected. That appears to be mostly due to score inflation rather than an increase in TDs. It is something I am going to look at.

The difficulty is it is hard to say for sure without details behind the scores.

That is why I focused on the obvious 1 and 0 takedown matches.

Plus, the increased attainability of the TF has an effect on the incentive to pursue the real Fall-which should be the objective of the match.

If Nickal, Nolf and Retherford taught us anything-the pin is the most exciting outcome.

A match that ends 20-15 isn't exciting to me. It's two guys with mutually ineffective defense. Most of us have enough life experience to distinguish busy and productive. If I wanted a lot of meaningless points, with no chance for an event that provides sudden and definitive victory, there's basketball, tennis and volleyball.

 

[The Pitchfork Rebel]

If the idea is to force action I am not sure you can do anything. You will always offensive guys and counter guys. You could have told Beau Bartlett that a takedown was worth 6 points and he would have still been a counter wrestler just like you could tell MM that a takedown was worth 0.5 points and he would still try to score10 takedowns. Wrestlers have a mentality and that is how they compete.

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[Wrestleknownothing]

>Will Lewan has entered the chat
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But if you told Bartlett a takedown was worth 1.5 then maybe, just maybe, he would attempt two.

 

[SleepyLion]

Plus, the increased attainability of the TF has an effect on the incentive to pursue the real Fall-which should be the objective of the match.

If Nickal, Nolf and Retherford taught us anything-the pin is the most exciting outcome.

A match that ends 20-15 isn't exciting to me. It's two guys with mutually ineffective defense. Most of us have enough life experience to distinguish busy and productive. If I wanted a lot of meaningless points, with no chance for an event that provides sudden and definitive victory, there's basketball, tennis and volleyball.

If the guy that won was down big early it would have been exciting.

The only sports I can think of that have a single event that has a chance for a sudden definitive victory are combat sports and "sudden death" OT. Are there others?

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

If the guy that won was down big early it would have been exciting.

The only sports I can think of that have a single event that has a chance for a sudden definitive victory are combat sports and "sudden death" OT. Are there others?

Hockey

As a Chicago sports fan one of my favorite memories is Patrick Kane sprinting away in celebration before anyone realized he had won the Stanley Cup in OT with an impossible shot.

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[SleepyLion]

Hockey

As a Chicago sports fan one of my favorite memories is Patrick Kane sprinting away in celebration before anyone realized he had won the Stanley Cup in OT with an impossible shot.

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That is what I referred to as "sudden death" OT. But it is not like that in the first 60 minutes of play. All of the goals scored in regulation are "meaningless points" I suppose.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

That is what I referred to as "sudden death" OT. But it is not like that in the first 60 minutes of play. All of the goals scored in regulation are "meaningless points" I suppose.

Yep, I misunderstood the question.

 

[CTStall]

It's the guy wearing the whistle around his neck that can dictate action. When I guy gets up a couple of points and works the edge it takes away from the sport. Keep the action in the middle. Put a third circle on mat between the middle circle and OB circle . If you are not engaged with opponent you can not go out of area with 2 feet. If you do it's stalling. Most refs wait way to late to call stalling that could impact a match. Make it easy for the referee.

 

[JakkL]

Maybe after a TD if you ride for 30 seconds and there is a stoppage then you can give a free release with no escape point? Unfortunately, I think this would trigger a lot of top stalling tho.