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KeithK7624

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I just don’t get the haters. Not realize that the AD will be profitable with the new TV deal? Added exposure = Better students. Better qualified students = more academic prestige. I can go on and on.
I’m sure this guy didn’t mention the taxpayers paying for MetLife which more New Jersey residents will never see let alone step inside. The American Dream?
 
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MADHAT1

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take the attacks as a complement.
When the star liar and njo.con see the FB program doing terrible thy cover the state of the program with glee.
When RU Athletics is starting to gain respect, the liar and con find other reasons to knock RU and exaggerate any problems happening
 
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KeithK7624 said:
I just don’t get the haters. Not realize that the AD will be profitable with the new TV deal? Added exposure = Better students. Better qualified students = more academic prestige. I can go on and on.
I’m sure this guy didn’t mention the taxpayers paying for MetLife which more New Jersey residents will never see let alone step inside. The American Dream?
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The haters don't know about the new TV deal and they don't actually care enough to do any research and learn about it, and the people writing these articles know that their readers are just looking for something to be angry about without actually being well-informed about it, so they just recycle the same garbage and people eat it right up.
 
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RC1991

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The AD will not necessarily ever be “profitable” from a money perspective even with the new deal and a sold out stadium. But it doesn’t matter in the least. What these people don’t realize is the exposure athletics brings to the university, especially outside of NJ. It gets kids thinking about checking out and/or attending Rutgers which is exactly what athletics helps bring to the table. The exposure also helps attract faculty and staff. It isn’t always about dollars and cents as part of the investment but about the intangibles that athletics brings. If they are profitable or break even that’s an added plus.
 
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Knight Shift said:
He's jelly:

"Drew Sheneman was raised in New Jersey, but he attended college at Central Michigan University, where he began cartooning for the college's newspaper"
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Imagine willingly going to and attending a third tier college in freaking Michigan. What a failure of an individual. At least get into MSU if you insist on freezing to death in Michigan for 4 years of your life.
 
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Scarlet Jerry

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This cartoon implies that the legislature gave us 100 million dollars that could have been directed to increase adjunct pay. As anyone who ever worked on a budget on any level, that’s not the way budgets work. That would be like saying that we could provide money to feed homeless people instead of using funds to support public art or cultural institutions. Funds are allocated based on purposes and needs. Overall state support has decreased dramatically for universities, and that’s why adjuncts can’t make a living wage. Pitting the salaries against any other university expense is a faulty argument. I actually believe that Rutgers was probably entitled to even MORE funding for the practice facility based on the state’s surplus and the economic impact and unique opportunity that Big 10 membership provides at this time.

Scarlet Jerry
 
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newell138 said:
Who cares? This isn’t 1990 anymore
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RU#1fan said:
Click Bait.
Don’t enable the clowns.
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Here is what we have to understand here

we are RU fans and we know that the money is a worthwhile investment in our sports programs

but there are thousands, tens of thousands of NJ citizens that are not sports fans at all. They see these negative articles and now have the opinion that our efforts in sports should be curtailed and no further monies should be spent by our state


And the knee jerk response of our fans is to say “so what”

We can say that but know that these articles poison what Some people think about
our school, and you would never know it because you do not engage them in discussion
 
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IMARUFAN

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My message to all the haters?

 
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ScarletKid2008

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wheezer said:
Here is what we have to understand here

we are RU fans and we know that the money is a worthwhile investment in our sports programs

but there are thousands, tens of thousands of NJ citizens that are not sports fans at all. They see these negative articles and now have the opinion that our efforts in sports should be curtailed and no further monies should be spent by our state


And the knee jerk response of our fans is to say “so what”

We can say that but know that these articles poison what Some people think about
our school, and you would never know it because you do not engage them in discussion
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this is the correct response.

many people want to say “so what” and “their opinions don’t matter”. But they do and will. Maybe right now the opinion can’t change our course but it has and will impact decision making . It won’t be obvious at all times but it is an impact.

we want support for Rutgers as a prideful state University. Anything other than that from the masses will be a distraction and will at some point pull back on momentum
 
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wheezer said:
Here is what we have to understand here

we are RU fans and we know that the money is a worthwhile investment in our sports programs

but there are thousands, tens of thousands of NJ citizens that are not sports fans at all. They see these negative articles and now have the opinion that our efforts in sports should be curtailed and no further monies should be spent by our state


And the knee jerk response of our fans is to say “so what”

We can say that but know that these articles poison what Some people think about
our school, and you would never know it because you do not engage them in discussion
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While athletics taken as a whole may need a subsidy, football, by itself is profitable. I think if people knew this, they would change their toon.
 
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wheezer

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Knight177lb said:
While athletics taken as a whole may need a subsidy, football, by itself is profitable. I think if people knew this, they would change their toon.
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You are probably correct, but the occasional but persistent articles have created tens of thousand of our citizens who view our program in a negative light

While it may not affect RU and our big time efforts, it is discouraging that those that read these articles do not hear the other side of it

I get disheartened when I start a conversation with someone new and they immediately launch into an anti RU tirade..... these people are not doing it as fans of another program, but just as NJ residents, and many not sports fans at all

One example I can give was when RU was cutting the rowing budget while increasing the football expenditures
This caused a big stir back then from what I saw , the move was misunderstood by the general public and we looked bad
 
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wheezer said:
You are probably correct, but the occasional but persistent articles have created tens of thousand of our citizens who view our program in a negative light

While it may not affect RU and our big time efforts, it is discouraging that those that read these articles do not hear the other side of it

I get disheartened when I start a conversation with someone new and they immediately launch into an anti RU tirade..... these people are not doing it as fans of another program, but just as NJ residents, and many not sports fans at all

One example I can give was when RU was cutting the rowing budget while increasing the football expenditures
This caused a big stir back then from what I saw , the move was misunderstood by the general public and we looked bad
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It's a very small minority who really believes RU is some kind of tax siphon given how politicians are now openly supporting RU in a way like they never have been before.

This budget was the result of politicians actively standing up for us and ensuring we were treated- both academically and athletically- like the B1G school we are rather than an afterthought. Being pro-RU is now an asset because the people who believe the SL nonsense are a minority.

Like I said before the headline alone is not true- the budget actually gives most taxpayers a rebate. It's just trying to stir the pot.
 
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Virginiarufan

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wheezer said:
but there are thousands, tens of thousands of NJ citizens that are not sports fans at all. They see these negative articles and now have the opinion that our efforts in sports should be curtailed and no further monies should be spent by our state


And the knee jerk response of our fans is to say “so what”

We can say that but know that these articles poison what Some people think about
our school, and you would never know it because you do not engage them in discussion
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Engage them where? Not in this forum. I didn't bother to read the clickbait but if there are inaccuracies and lies that need to be corrected or if there is other information that needs to be put out there then the SL/NJO is the place to do it. My suggestion would be to let sleeping dogs lie and not give the SL ammo to make money with. F them.
 
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wheezer

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Virginiarufan said:
Engage them where? Not in this forum. I didn't bother to read the clickbait but if there are inaccuracies and lies that need to be corrected or if there is other information that needs to be put out there then the SL/NJO is the place to do it. My suggestion would be to let sleeping dogs lie and not give the SL ammo to make money with. F them.
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Not talking about forum discussions

Sometimes new people will ask what your interests are, normal in person conversation

A certain percentage of the time if I mention I am a season ticket holder in football, they begin to parrot the negative stories. Not a majority, but enough to reveal that a sizable portion of the public dislikes RU because of the stories

This is just a general observation, nothing more than that

There is no need to say F them, because they read these negative articles and don’t hear the other side of it

In one sense I can’t blame them
But this is part of the general public
 
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wheezer said:
Not talking about forum discussions

Sometimes new people will ask what your interests are, normal in person conversation

A certain percentage of the time if I mention I am a season ticket holder in football, they begin to parrot the negative stories. Not a majority, but enough to reveal that a sizable portion of the public dislikes RU because of the stories

This is just a general observation, nothing more than that

There is no need to say F them, because they read these negative articles and don’t hear the other side of it

In one sense I can’t blame them
But this is part of the general public
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I have experienced the exact same thing. When I tell them I'm an RU football fan, I usually get a remark like "it's costing us so much taxpayer money". I also get comments like "if only we could spend less on football, Rutgers would become better academically".

My reply to them is that football actually makes a profit. The reason the athletic budget needs a subsidy is because of non-revenue sports. Every time I explain this, it is news to them. Even fellow alumni. I think this is the main point we need to get across.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the new practice facility meant to replace the bubble? That eyesore was there when I started college 35 years ago. It was probably there long before that. I think Rutgers has waited long enough for half decent facilities. They're not even asking to have the best in the B1G. I'd say they're being pretty conservative.
 
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RUChoppin

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DJ Spanky said:
New Jersey has a population of close to 9 million: I think it's well more than tens of thousands.
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But that's not NJ.com's reach - the website's reach is greater than the Ledger's circulation, but that's a low bar to clear.
 
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Virginiarufan

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If the school thought it important enough to respond to a slanderous opinion piece in the SL/NJO they would have done so. This will be all but forgotten in a month and as stated above, as soon as we start winning they'll stop writing. I can't wait for the SL/NJO to go belly-up.
 
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NorthernKnight_rivals

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wheezer said:
Not talking about forum discussions

Sometimes new people will ask what your interests are, normal in person conversation

A certain percentage of the time if I mention I am a season ticket holder in football, they begin to parrot the negative stories. Not a majority, but enough to reveal that a sizable portion of the public dislikes RU because of the stories

This is just a general observation, nothing more than that

There is no need to say F them, because they read these negative articles and don’t hear the other side of it

In one sense I can’t blame them
But this is part of the general public
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I stop the idiots dead in their tracks.

I give them $1 and say that this approximate cost of Rutgers athletics to you annually.

now STFU until next year.
 
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NorthernKnight said:
I stop the idiots dead in their tracks.

I give them $1 and say that this approximate cost of Rutgers athletics to you annually.

now STFU until next year.
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That's pretty good. I'm going to do that as well. However, I'm also going to inform them that the dollar represents a contribution to ALL athletics. Football on it's own is profitable, so that contribution is going to support non-revenue sports. I don't think most people are aware of that.
 
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DJ Spanky

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Virginiarufan said:
If the school thought it important enough to respond to a slanderous opinion piece in the SL/NJO they would have done so.
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I disagree. They've always shown a disturbing amount of passivity when stuff like this starts making the rounds.
 
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