The definition of "Restraint".

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I never said Biden was a great president, but I would think he would not use starvation as a military weapon.
He's starving his own people with grocery prices........we all know you will still vote for this POS President
 

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Interesting to note that there were a handful of Hamas leaders who are considered primarily responsible for what happened on October 7th: Haniyeh, Sinwar, Deif, Issa, Meshaal, and Zahar. Yet the ONLY poster who has mentioned any of them is SC200SC. Meanwhile the anti-Zionist crowd here can only manage to single out Netanyahu. Why is that? He didn't organize, plan, or plot for Hamas terrorists to invade, kill, rape Israelis on October 7th. Hamas did.

Heck, iranian president, Raisi, just attempted to bomb the heck out of Israel while also taking shots at American targets and the leftists here can still only focus on Netanyahu.
 

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Interesting to note that there were a handful of Hamas leaders who are considered primarily responsible for what happened on October 7th: Haniyeh, Sinwar, Deif, Issa, Meshaal, and Zahar. Yet the ONLY poster who has mentioned any of them is SC200SC. Meanwhile the anti-Zionist crowd here can only manage to single out Netanyahu. Why is that? He didn't organize, plan, or plot for Hamas terrorists to invade, kill, rape Israelis on October 7th. Hamas did.

Heck, iranian president, Raisi, just attempted to bomb the heck out of Israel while also taking shots at American targets and the leftists here can still only focus on Netanyahu.
So what is a good number of women and children to be killed for the 6 that planned the war, 3000 each is not enough apparently. Hamas indicated acceptance of a permanent cease fire and return captured. Iran has indicated score is even. If this continues its on Net. Just what is his long term solution. Unconditional surrender just does not happen often and when it does only after millions have been killed
 

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Interesting to note that there were a handful of Hamas leaders who are considered primarily responsible for what happened on October 7th: Haniyeh, Sinwar, Deif, Issa, Meshaal, and Zahar. Yet the ONLY poster who has mentioned any of them is SC200SC. Meanwhile the anti-Zionist crowd here can only manage to single out Netanyahu. Why is that? He didn't organize, plan, or plot for Hamas terrorists to invade, kill, rape Israelis on October 7th. Hamas did.

Heck, iranian president, Raisi, just attempted to bomb the heck out of Israel while also taking shots at American targets and the leftists here can still only focus on Netanyahu.
That's because they hate Israel. And they hate Israel because they are a USA ally.
"The left destroys everything they touch"
 

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So what is a good number of women and children to be killed for the 6 that planned the war, 3000 each is not enough apparently. Hamas indicated acceptance of a permanent cease fire and return captured. Iran has indicated score is even. If this continues its on Net. Just what is his long term solution. Unconditional surrender just does not happen often and when it does only after millions have been killed
Utter BS. Hamas has rejected every offer.
 

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That's because they hate Israel. And they hate Israel because they are a USA ally.
"The left destroys everything they touch"
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So if Israel WAS NOT a USA ally Hamas and Israel would be breaking bread at a picnic ? Thats your take BB ? You’re blaming Democrats for the Hamas atrocities? Your desperate AF BB .
 

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That's because they hate Israel. And they hate Israel because they are a USA ally.
"The left destroys everything they touch"
So if Israel WAS NOT a USA ally Hamas and Israel would be breaking bread at a picnic ? Thats your take BB ? You’re blaming Democrats for the Hamas atrocities? Your desperate AF BB .
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Yup. If jojo doesn’t release the billions of dollars and relieve sanctions on oil sales, it doesn’t happen. Thanks for nothing.
 

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So what is a good number of women and children to be killed for the 6 that planned the war, 3000 each is not enough apparently. Hamas indicated acceptance of a permanent cease fire and return captured. Iran has indicated score is even. If this continues its on Net. Just what is his long term solution. Unconditional surrender just does not happen often and when it does only after millions have been killed

The number that’s needed is whatever renders Hamas ineffective as a terrorist organization. Every one of the deaths in this war are on Hamas’s hands.

Everyone wants an end to the fighting. The problem is that a cease fire will not accomplish this end. Hamas has said multiple times that no matter what Israel does, they will repeat the acts of Oct 7 over and over again.

“We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it twice and three times. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its October 7 onslaught] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth,” Hamad continued. “Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it.”
-Ghazi Hamad, Hamas spokesperson

Even lefties like Hillary Clinton have said that they oppose a cease fire before Hamas has been destroyed, as it would only serve to allow Hamas to regroup/rebuild and carry out more attacks. The only reason Biden wants a cease fire now is because he’s concerned about the ramifications come election time of the multiple horrific wars started under his watch.

The US has had a long standing policy of not negotiating with terrorists. The reason is that it always results in more terrorism and more death. You must not cave to the terrorists nor let them have any success come from mass murder. Nor should the US hypocritically insist that our allies negotiate with terrorists. Anything short of the destruction of Hamas is a victory for the terrorists, rewards them for mass murder, and provokes more terrorism.
 

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So if Israel WAS NOT a USA ally Hamas and Israel would be breaking bread at a picnic ? Thats your take BB ? You’re blaming Democrats for the Hamas atrocities? Your desperate AF BB .
Yup. If jojo doesn’t release the billions of dollars and relieve sanctions on oil sales, it doesn’t happen. Thanks for nothing.
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Exactly!!! End of story.
Remember this started with Obama.
Appeasement? Has this ever worked in World History?
 
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The number that’s needed is whatever renders Hamas ineffective as a terrorist organization. Every one of the deaths in this war are on Hamas’s hands.

Everyone wants an end to the fighting. The problem is that a cease fire will not accomplish this end. Hamas has said multiple times that no matter what Israel does, they will repeat the acts of Oct 7 over and over again.

“We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it twice and three times. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its October 7 onslaught] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth,” Hamad continued. “Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it.”
-Ghazi Hamad, Hamas spokesperson

Even lefties like Hillary Clinton have said that they oppose a cease fire before Hamas has been destroyed, as it would only serve to allow Hamas to regroup/rebuild and carry out more attacks. The only reason Biden wants a cease fire now is because he’s concerned about the ramifications come election time of the multiple horrific wars started under his watch.

The US has had a long standing policy of not negotiating with terrorists. The reason is that it always results in more terrorism and more death. You must not cave to the terrorists nor let them have any success come from mass murder. Nor should the US hypocritically insist that our allies negotiate with terrorists. Anything short of the destruction of Hamas is a victory for the terrorists, rewards them for mass murder, and provokes more terrorism.
I guess I did not understand that bombing the crud out of Gaza will END terrorism. But haven't we heard that before, did not work in Iraq or Afghanistan, we spent trillions and will be paying billions on VA benefits for the next 50 years, we ruined many US lives, and we gained absolutely nothing.

So it is so great to hear that Gaza is the place, blow up a bunch of buildings and terrorism in the middle east will end. Does anyone understand at the end of our middle east wars, we were paying the enemy not to attack US soldiers. If Israel thinks they can fix the middle east, let them find out what we did, but please keep the US out of this mess.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia is buying Rolls Royces and professional golfers and laughing at us.
 

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I guess I did not understand that bombing the crud out of Gaza will END terrorism. But haven't we heard that before, did not work in Iraq or Afghanistan, we spent trillions and will be paying billions on VA benefits for the next 50 years, we ruined many US lives, and we gained absolutely nothing.

So it is so great to hear that Gaza is the place, blow up a bunch of buildings and terrorism in the middle east will end. Does anyone understand at the end of our middle east wars, we were paying the enemy not to attack US soldiers. If Israel thinks they can fix the middle east, let them find out what we did, but please keep the US out of this mess.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia is buying Rolls Royces and professional golfers and laughing at us.
Yup. Much better to fund ukraine and zelensky, at least Biden is getting a piece of that back to pay taxes on.. oh, wait
 
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I guess I did not understand that bombing the crud out of Gaza will END terrorism. But haven't we heard that before, did not work in Iraq or Afghanistan, we spent trillions and will be paying billions on VA benefits for the next 50 years, we ruined many US lives, and we gained absolutely nothing.

So it is so great to hear that Gaza is the place, blow up a bunch of buildings and terrorism in the middle east will end. Does anyone understand at the end of our middle east wars, we were paying the enemy not to attack US soldiers. If Israel thinks they can fix the middle east, let them find out what we did, but please keep the US out of this mess.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia is buying Rolls Royces and professional golfers and laughing at us.
You are a pragmatic pacifist.

So how do you resolve genocide perpetuated on your country if you are an Israeli National?
Accept your own annihilation without defending yourself?

As I type this the Israelis are taking the fight to Iranians' nuclear related facilities.
 

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This bothers me .. I just don’t get it. And did they ever publish the death toll? My heart goes out to those people on Maui.



 

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Aggressive Columbia University protester heard shouting 'We're all Hamas, pig!'


Meanwhile, the cops say nothing to the aggressors but on the other side of the street, they tell a Jewish man to calm down because they want a "peaceful" demonstration.
 

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Great news, expanded bombing of defenseless Palestinians into Rafah, because you never know where you will find a Hamas.
No, they know EXACTLY where they will find Hamas, right behind their human shields, in hospitals, or anywhere else where they can maximize Palestinian casualties and paint Israel as the villain. Hamas calls it “The price we are willing to pay”.

We used to universally condemn the use of human shields as war crimes. But it’s become clear that for many on the left, this is now dependent on which side you are supporting.

Like I said, the blood of these people is entirely on Hamas’s hands.
 

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No, they know EXACTLY where they will find Hamas, right behind their human shields, in hospitals, or anywhere else where they can maximize Palestinian casualties and paint Israel as the villain. Hamas calls it “The price we are willing to pay”.

We used to universally condemn the use of human shields as war crimes. But it’s become clear that for many on the left, this is now dependent on which side you are supporting.

Like I said, the blood of these people is entirely on Hamas’s hands.
Exactly. Know one knows where to find Hamas so just keep bombing residential buildings and maybe we get lucky.
 

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Exactly. Know one knows where to find Hamas so just keep bombing residential buildings and maybe we get lucky.
Sure they do. If you were watching, you’d know that Hamas isn’t even hiding, just taking cover behind civilians and taunting Israel to blow them up. Yet you still side with the terrorists and blame Israel.

SMH
 
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No, the one who is deluded is you. You have been overwhelming "gaslighted". Part of this is your own fault for wanting to hear what your itching ears want to hear. The real problem is though, that you in turn pass the crap on. For this, you are evil.


Stupidly evil.

If you want to see evil then look at the stupid person in your mirror.

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This is not the first time this has been suggested. I wonder if there's any validity to it.

 

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This is the level of stupidity of religious dopes. The end result? Genocide for land. The killing of women and children for new gas rights. The absurdity and depravity of it all!

 

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No more of our money or weapons to Israel. The so called "ally" that stole nuclear tech and enriched uranium from us.

 

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No more of our money or weapons to Israel. The so called "ally" that stole nuclear tech and enriched uranium from us.


Yes Hamas started it, but is becoming more and more clear Netanyahu was just waiting for the chance to slaughter Palestinians. And yes we have tape. This is not a war. There are no battles. This is a firing range with 2000# bombs.
 

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Yes Hamas started it, but is becoming more and more clear Netanyahu was just waiting for the chance to slaughter Palestinians. And yes we have tape. This is not a war. There are no battles. This is a firing range with 2000# bombs.

Almost 80 years of subjugation.





 
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