Look it up.Say whaaaaaat ? Old people vote Democrat?? Let’s see , a rich , old guy asking for handouts. Who’s that remind you of. ( hint: he has orangehair
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The Donald absolutely crushed Super Tuesday!
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Pretty sure he lives there so I'd take his word over yours. However....
"Oregon is an all-mail voting state. When registering to vote, voters must provide their driver's license number or state ID card number. If voters can not provide this information, they can print and sign a online voter registration form and mail it to their county election office to complete their registration"
And a 2nd source from the State itself....
"To register to vote online you will need an Oregon driver license, permit or ID card number issued by the Oregon Driver and Motor Vehicle Services Division (DMV).
If you do not have an Oregon driver license, permit or ID card, you can still use the online voter registration application. The information you enter will display on a voter registration card (PDF document) that you will need to print, sign and deliver to your county elections office to complete your registration."
As you can see, while they say you need a DL or ID, you really don't. You can register online without either, print a voter registration card, and then mail it to the county elections office.
They absolutely do not require ID at the polls.
“Carlson played a clip of Attorney General Merrick Garland saying that it is “discriminatory, burdensome, and unnecessary” to require voter ID.
“The chief law enforcement officer of the United States government is telling you that it’s immoral, in fact racist, in fact illegal, to ask people for their IDs when they vote to verify they are who they say they are. What is that?” Carlson asked…
“The chief law enforcement officer of the United States government is telling you that it’s immoral, in fact racist, in fact illegal, to ask people for their IDs when they vote to verify they are who they say they are. What is that?” Carlson asked…
Glenn is too kind! But on Econ 101 inflation, it's about area under the curve and our standard of living is NOT going to come back. HE DESTROYED IT. But don't let him get away with lying about Trump's economic performance. Under Trump it was booming before the plandemic and after the shutdowns Trump achieved a "V" shaped recovery and made it even better. MTG was the female and the man was a gold star father who lost his son during the Afghanistan pullout debacle. BTW, they arrested him on 1/6 charges of interfering with Congress.
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According to the data, .05% of the population in Oregon are illegal.
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Back it up, buttercup. The first order of business is to admit that Hector was correct.
Please provide your source because according to World Population Review, it's 9.7%.
According to the American Immigration Council, Oregon has a sizeable community of immigrants, many hailing from Mexico. In 2018, 432,410 immigrants (foreign-born individuals) comprised 10 percent of the population. And 110,000 undocumented immigrants comprised 26 percent of the immigrant population and 3 percent of the total state population in 2016.
According to Pew Research, it was nearly 3%....8 years ago.
"the average oregon household headed by a U.s. citizen pays about $728 annually to cover the costs of the state’s illegal alien population. the estimated tax revenue from illegal aliens is about $77 million — 7.3 percent of the estimated burden. illegal aliens pay relatively little in taxes, mainly because of their low earnings."
In 1992 it was estimated by the Immigration and Naturalization Service at about 27,000 residents. That compares with a current estimate of about 170,000 illegal residents.
In Oregon, illegals with temporary work permits are not counted in the number. It is generally accepted that any estimate of the illegal population is understated.
Wherever you got that 1/2 percent number is lying or grossly misinformed. However, it is not just illegals who can perpetrate a fake voter status. Hell, I could go on the website today and with a legit Oregon address, I could register myself as a voter there, show up at the polls, and cast my vote. The more election processes rely on remote voting and move away from physical voting with ID required, the more fraud will occur. That is a fact.
2020 stats had 110k illegals , population of 4.2 million . Google link . How many of those are minors ? Not sure Census numbers ? Not sure. Surely people like you can go on Oregons website , register with a fake address , have a mail in ballot sent to the fake address, somehow intercept it ( or is the person at the fake address in on the illegal voting ) and fill it out and send it back in . This is surely a national security issue
As for what each citizen pays, how much do they save hiring the illegals to do work at a lower then prevailing wage ? What was Hector right about again ? . Illegals voting in elections , big old nothing burger. There not doing it . Show me any cases of illegal citizens being arrested in Oregon , or ANY STATE for voter fraud.
That's not how it works. You make a claim, provide the link and source.
I'm not surprised you missed the point. It's a well accepted fact that most minors with foreign-born parents have at least one who is here illegally. It's also well accepted that reporting of illegals provides a number that is far less than the actual.How many of those are minors ? Not sure Census numbers ? Not sure. Surely people like you can go on Oregons website , register with a fake address , have a mail in ballot sent to the fake address, somehow intercept it ( or is the person at the fake address in on the illegal voting ) and fill it out and send it back in . This is surely a national security issue
Again, you miss the point of deductive reasoning. If Oregon knows what they collect in taxes (from citizens) and they know how many students are in public school, and how much they collect from illegals, you can surmise as to the illegal population and how it's bigger than any number stated.
Oregon isn't even trying to do that. They are a far left liberal nutzone, much like CA, and they welcome leftist votes and illegals.
"Nineteen foreign nationals face federal charges in U.S. District Court for the Middle District of North Carolina for illegally voting in the 2016 federal elections, according to federal charges publicly announced on Wednesday. These charges are the latest indictments to result from an ongoing years-long federal criminal investigation being conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Raleigh office."
"Florida officials have arrested and charged 20 people with felony convictions and charged them with illegal voting, Florida governor Ron DeSantis said on Thursday, a move designed to show the muscle of a new office tasked with policing voting in the state.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/18/ron-desantis-andrew-warren-lawsuit-florida-wokeness
“They did not go through any process, they did not get their rights restored, and yet they went ahead and voted anyways. That is against the law and now they’re gonna pay the price for it,” DeSantis said. He also said all 20 had convictions for murder or sexual offenses, crimes that continue to result in a lifetime voting ban in the state. Florida voters lifted the ban for all other offenses in 2018."
"An illegal alien from the Philippines was arrested Thursday morning on a felony complaint charging her with 17 counts related to voter fraud in Lake County. The state charges resulted from a joint investigation conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the Lake County State's Attorneys Office. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) also provided assistance."
"An elected official and another woman have been indicted on voter fraud charges following last month's municipal election in Lawrence, Massachusetts.
The office of Essex County District Attorney Paul Tucker said Wednesday that a grand jury had indicted City Councilor-elect Fidelina Santiago and Jennifer Lopez. Each faces the same 16 charges, including four counts each of illegal voting or attempt to vote; conspiracy to vote or attempt to vote illegally; unlawful interference with voters; and obstruction of voting."
This is just a small sample. The point being, voter fraud occurs. It's not always illegals doing it. The more we rely on electronic registration and voting, the worse the fraud will be. It's like the CA EDD money fraud that happened during covid. It cost California $31 BILLION. That was ALL online and without proper ID or vetting. We require ID for almost every significant facet of daily life. Voting outcomes have major consequences and it's not asking much to require a picture ID to cast a ballot. What would be a legitimate reason for someone not having an ID? Old age doesn't cut it because they ALL have their SS card ready. Young age doesn't cut it because they want that permit and DL. Anyone on state or federal aid has it in order to obtain their benefits. There is really not a legit reason to not have one....unless you are here illegally.
You are a stat producing machine, vball got it. An (1) illegal from the Philippines, 20 on Florida and 19 others. I get it it’s happening . Do these numbers seem like they are changing the election results. Too me ? Maybe it’s the tip of the iceberg but to disenfranchise legitimate citizens from voting because of hardships they may have getting identification seems wrong.
AND LETS BE PERFECTLY CLEAR. This issue clearly favors Republicans. Do you really think illegals ( more than a handful) really risk being uncovered by going to the polls, claiming to be someone on the voting roll to vote.
California is a frickn disaster, the EDD fraud is incomprehensible. Look at the last election . Gascon made the cut and 3 billion more down the homeless money trough.
Here is the number 108k and just searched total population. Yea my Lizard math is way off . Will try to get some more current next time. Sorry Hector.
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