The earth is a flat, non spinning realm, not a planet in an infinite universe

Is the Earth Flat or a Globe


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Bushy Bill

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Also, that link you posted is just full of blabbering nonsense. It's to the point that it's not even wrong, it's just nonsensical. Drains don't move in different directions in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres, the Coriolis effect doesn't act on that scale. Its an urban myth. And that's where the author starts from. He also incorrectly states that the hurricanes gain energy from Coriolis force. That's not the case. He goes on to use tornadoes as an example of vortices not caused by Coriolis effect, which just blows his entire nonsensical argument out of the water - vortices naturally form when fluids move in certain ways. The low pressure of a hurricane draws winds toward itself, and the Coriolis effect causes deflection of those winds coming from the North and South. Fast moving air streams going past each other from opposite directions lead to the creation of vortices.

Now, now, you know the rules...show your math.
 
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There was no math in that article to respond to. It was a giant block of text with some pictures thrown in. You're, again, going to your favorite technque of deflecting. I asked you for something you can't produce, and you're trying to distract from that. What's curious is that you know you can't produce it, and instead of questioning your belief you deflect.
 
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To quote Asimov, "when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

You see a tiny gap in knowledge and conclude that since the scientific community doesn't know literally everything, you can dismiss everything. Pony up and provide some evidence, some theory, some math behind your explanation. You're concerned over a microscopic gap in the accepted theory while leaving gaps big enough to fit the whole globe through in your crackpot theory.
 

K-GAR

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Ole Brushy Bill has avoided my two asks ... in a flat earth how do we not see the sun 24/7? It may not be shining on US but we'd still see it shining elsewhere on earth

And the Catholic Church and religious organizations for some reason are complicit in upholding a lie that actually hides proof of god.

No GD YouTube videos needed
 

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Also, that link you posted is just full of blabbering nonsense. It's to the point that it's not even wrong, it's just nonsensical. Drains don't move in different directions in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres, the Coriolis effect doesn't act on that scale. Its an urban myth. And that's where the author starts from. He also incorrectly states that the hurricanes gain energy from Coriolis force. That's not the case. He goes on to use tornadoes as an example of vortices not caused by Coriolis effect, which just blows his entire nonsensical argument out of the water - vortices naturally form when fluids move in certain ways. The low pressure of a hurricane draws winds toward itself, and the Coriolis effect causes deflection of those winds coming from the North and South. Fast moving air streams going past each other from opposite directions lead to the creation of vortices.
I almost stopped reading when he started in on the drains. Glad I read more, there were some funny things in there. Maybe that guy is the OP.
 

wildcatwelder_rivals

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Ole Brushy Bill has avoided my two asks ... in a flat earth how do we not see the sun 24/7? It may not be shining on US but we'd still see it shining elsewhere on earth

And the Catholic Church and religious organizations for some reason are complicit in upholding a lie that actually hides proof of god.

No GD YouTube videos needed
Based on all his deflections, I'd wager you'll be waiting quite a bit longer.
 

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To quote Asimov, "when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

You see a tiny gap in knowledge and conclude that since the scientific community doesn't know literally everything, you can dismiss everything. Pony up and provide some evidence, some theory, some math behind your explanation. You're concerned over a microscopic gap in the accepted theory while leaving gaps big enough to fit the whole globe through in your crackpot theory.

I'm still waiting for someone to show me the curve. We can go from there when that happens.

I love engineers, "if you don't have the math worked out then your just full of ****" Hey ganner, what IS gravity? I'll hang up and listen.
 
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Bushy Bill

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Ole Brushy Bill has avoided my two asks ... in a flat earth how do we not see the sun 24/7? It may not be shining on US but we'd still see it shining elsewhere on earth

And the Catholic Church and religious organizations for some reason are complicit in upholding a lie that actually hides proof of god.

No GD YouTube videos needed

Air density and distance, pretty simple. And if you think the Catholic Church gives a damn about proving God, just look at the Jesuit Pope over there right now.
 

K-GAR

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Air density and distance, pretty simple. And if you think the Catholic Church gives a damn about proving God, just look at the Jesuit Pope over there right now.

Nah, you're just seeing it from your fish eye lens contacts.

GIVE ME MEASURED SCIENTIFIC PROOF HES JESUIT IVE GOT ELEVENTY TWO YOUTUBE VIDEOS THAT ARE STONE COLD FACTS
 

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So Z, i mean Bushy Bill, what your saying is global warning is a hoax? since we aren't living in a globe? correct?
 

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May be that some of you may have seen images of the earth taken from outer space. My conclusion is the earth is shaped like a nickel or a a discus. The disk shape would explain the high speeds and rotation.
 

RacerX.ksr

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The Coriolis Effect is actually just eddys formed in the atmosphere by Mt. Everest whizzing around at 1000mph. I could show the math but no one would understand it.
 
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I'm still waiting for someone to show me the curve. We can go from there when that happens.

I love engineers, "if you don't have the math worked out then your just full of ****" Hey ganner, what IS gravity? I'll hang up and listen.

The curve is visible in Satellite photos. Again, you are lying and saying no one is showing you things. You just refuse to accept what you're shown. Then you lie about it.

And yep. You don't have to personally work out the math but if there isn't math behind it, you are full of ****, to go along with being a liar.
 

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So what's our endgame, Prophet Bill?

We've woken up the rubes, gotten 11 pages out of 'em, and definitely given you the attention you so rightly deserve.

What's our next move?
 

K-GAR

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So what's our endgame, Prophet Bill?

We've woken up the rubes, gotten 11 pages out of 'em, and definitely given you the attention you so rightly deserve.

What's our next move?

Clearly, putting globe makers out of business since they're the only known entity that would benefit from the world being round vs flat.
 

Tinker Dan

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We all KNOW you are trolling. Bravo, you are pretty good at it. Well, at least you are dedicated.

I concede the links I provided earlier are no where near as authoritative as Youtube videos. That must be why you keep avoiding the questions I posed and links provided.

I admit that I am just a dumb ole country boy. Heck, I am definitely not an engineer or scientist but I have been afforded the opportunity to experience a lot of different things in life.

Some things I know are facts:
  • Hillary violated her SF 312 and OF 109
  • You ARE trolling
  • Gravity is NOT constant - there are a couple of ways that information can be put to use, but that is a story for another day. Big brother and all.
Earlier you were asking for some math to back things up. I provided some links that had some interesting math in them.

Here is another:

Inertial Navigation Systems with Geodetic Applications

https://books.google.com/books?hl=e...ClXbu9ZnhrXEwAEukZgBiIqY0#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
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AustinTXCat

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We all KNOW you are trolling. Bravo, you are pretty good at it. Well, at least you are dedicated.

I concede the links I provided earlier areno where near as authoritative as Youtube videos. That must be why you keep avoiding the questions I posed and links provided.

I admit that I am just a dumb ole country boy. Heck, I am definitely not an engineer or scientist but I have been afforded the opportunity to experience a lot of different things in life.

Some things I know are facts:
  • Hillary violated her SF 312 and OF 109
  • You ARE trolling
  • Gravity is NOT constant - there are a couple of ways that information can be put to use, but that is a story for another day. Big brother and all.
Earlier you were asking for some math to back things up. I provided some links that had some interesting math in them.

Here is another:

Inertial Navigation Systems with Geodetic Applications

https://books.google.com/books?id=KlEiAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=using+gravity+data+for+navigation&source=bl&ots=7hbH7Rjlsv&sig=Nmt9fbb-A8uT6uw8eWxfW-BJ5fA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbk4LmxITTAhVM0YMKHY-aCwgQ6AEITDAH#v=onepage&q=using gravity data for navigation&f=false
Dude, thanks, you are spot on.

OP is trolling. TROLLING!

We've suspected Earth is an oblate spheroid for at least 2,500 years, and proven as much since 1960, give or take a year, with photos, no less. Global navigation across seas would have been impossible utilizing a so-called "flat-earth" approach during the middle ages.

If this SOB refuses to believe, then screw him.
 

Bushy Bill

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In summation, I've presented:

- video of Chicago from 53 miles away and the Superdome from 27 miles away over a body of water.
- plausible alternative explanations for things like eclipses, the Coriolis effect and Foucault's pendulums.
- poked holes in the whole there are satellites/ISS in space.

You guys have given me NASA photos and your just a big doody head arguments. Solid effort guys.
 

AustinTXCat

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In summation, I've presented:

- video of Chicago from 53 miles away and the Superdome from 27 miles away over a body of water.
- plausible alternative explanations for things like eclipses, the Coriolis effect and Foucault's pendulums.
- poked holes in the whole there are satellites/ISS in space.

You guys have given me NASA photos and your just a big doody head arguments. Solid effort guys.
Negative, Bill. We dwell in a universe composed of circular objects. By utilizing such circular relationships, we have thus been able to deduce our very existence.

Thank you. You are dismissed.
 

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In summation, I've presented:

- video of Chicago from 53 miles away and the Superdome from 27 miles away over a body of water.
- plausible alternative explanations for things like eclipses, the Coriolis effect and Foucault's pendulums.
- poked holes in the whole there are satellites/ISS in space.

You guys have given me NASA photos and your just a big doody head arguments. Solid effort guys.

no satellites in space but you never answered my question about GPS systems? very basic stuff here, but they aren't plausible without satellites in space.
 
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In summation, I've presented:

- video of Chicago from 53 miles away and the Superdome from 27 miles away over a body of water.
- plausible alternative explanations for things like eclipses, the Coriolis effect and Foucault's pendulums.
- poked holes in the whole there are satellites/ISS in space.

You guys have given me NASA photos and your just a big doody head arguments. Solid effort guys.

You haven't presented plausible alternative explanations. You've made fanciful assertions without evidence, mathematics, or underlying explanations. "Its electromagnetic properties" isn't a plausible explanation. It's talking out your ***.
 

Bushy Bill

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You haven't presented plausible alternative explanations. You've made fanciful assertions without evidence, mathematics, or underlying explanations. "Its electromagnetic properties" isn't a plausible explanation. It's talking out your ***.

You still haven't told me what gravity IS.
 

bluthruandthru

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RacerX.ksr

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You haven't given any plausible explanations for anything. We all know the plausible explanation. We know how and why an airplane flies. We know why there are tides. We know why the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West. We know that rockets can operate in a vacuum.

You seem to be the only one here who doesn't understand.
 
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You still haven't told me what gravity IS.

An attractive force between objects of mass. It's no more or less abstract or mysterious than magnetism or strong or weak nuclear force. We can measure and describe how they work. We can't say what charge is or why opposite charges attract. We can't say why mass attracts mass. We observe it happen and describe it.
 

Bushy Bill

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Nope. Deal with it daily. It's known as life.

Have you specifically, or any of you been to space? NASA and the other space agencies could find purple unicorns on mars and you all would believe them because "science" is provable by non independently reproducible photos apparently.
 
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