The NBA has capitulated
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I think it has more to do with the All whites are bad and all minorities are good agenda. I wish someone could tell me why we have to accept that every white is bad because you were born white? I don't think that does anything to help race relations in America. That being said, I don't think the left has any interest in solving race relations in America. It is their go to issue every election cycle.
Agree...... and there are some characters that carried the flag and fanned the flames, including Lebron, Popovich, Kerr, etc. But, I do think everything dies down after Biden wins, which seems inevitable at this point.....
I think what he is saying, in summary, is that there are lots of opinions and lots of disagreement about these issues, including the best way to solve them. Sports (and movies, music, etc.) have always been a refuge..... a place we can escape the noise and enjoy life away from the endless politics. And these biased athletes (and entertainers), whom we have made rich and given them their high platforms are abusing their notoriety.
I think we can all agree with you on it being a clear act of racism. I’ll go you one further, find me anyone that is sane who defends that act. Universally condemned. Meanwhile, cities were being burned and businesses destroyed and our sitting VP candidate was bailing out those conducting the assaults. It took polling numbers to get Biden, not sure Harris has said a word, but Biden to condemn obvious acts of Domestic terror in the assassination and attempted assassination of police officers.
My biggest problem with BLM is that they’ve cheapened the term of racist/racism. The act of disagreeing with political tripe from the left is not racism.
But, would you have agreed if he had said "many" servicemen and women instead of "all"? I think this is all part of the general theme. Everyone is not offended by the left turn that sports and entertainment have taken (for various causes), but a very large segment of society disagrees. And it is large enough to cause further division instead of the intended progress.
So standing up for something you believe in is abusing their notoriety?? If you believed in something shouldnt you use any means necessary to try and enact change??
I’d agree with him. I think it’s commendable to try and raise awareness and even foster change as able. It helps when the individual isn’t bathed in hypocrisy as the case Lebron. It helps when the message isn’t founded and championed on lies. It helps when it’s approached via an inclusive approach vs a divisive and demonizing approach.
Again, find me someone serious who is for and defending racism. That’s the person you denigrate. Lumping us all into a bucket is racism in and of itself and very off putting to an otherwise sympathetic ear.
you are exactly right....just remember the rule of unintended consequences. Nothing is for free and a price may have to be paid if controversy is involved. Seems like the left doesn't want there to be a price for their behavior, a behavior many don't agree with. You don't **** where you eat, and if you do, don't be surprised if the meal tastes....like ****.
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Maybe you haven’t been yelled out to denounce your white privilege by a mob. It has an affect, in this case, the opposite of the one they wanted. I’m openly opposing BLM now.
Try defending the police and you'll I think you'll feel differently. You'll be lumped in very, very quickly and otherized.
So, before all this political BS comes to town while Trump is President, we all watched sports and movies and made certain actors and athletes rich. The public buys their gear and watches their games and movies. They get rich from their talents (which is fine), gain a high platform with millions of followers and then use that to preach against conservatives, oftentimes lumping us all together like Lebron and De Niro do. Some people think that is ok, but at least 60 million Americans (probably a lot more) hate it. This causes more division and isn't persuasive to the intended cause. As always, their message is flawed and as you can see, they're taking the enjoyment out of activities meant to entertain the general public. Of course, they have the right to their opinion. I just think it's hurting more than helping.
I think the outrage is that when you watch basically an entertainment form of media and with the knowledge that the performers - whether movie actors and actresses or athletes- are making hundreds of millions of dollars it becomes unpalatable to see those million and in some cases hundred millionaires disrespecting the country that provides them with their lavish lifestyle and taking up viewership time replacing that entertainment we tuned in to watch in the first place with personal political agendas. I also think it is the hypocrisy of the leagues like NBA and NFL. It was just a few short years ago Tim Tebow was told he couldn't display Christian ideals and suggestions because it may offend " some viewers" and yet here we are allowing the same process.
I don't think Trump will be reelected....if Biden wins....all the racism talk will disappear. Proibably time for this thread to be moved.
Now if we can just the NBA to tell China to shove it - and bring back Free Hong Kong shirts we'd be all set.
So in other words the freedom that this country provides??
Im pretty sure this country was founded on a protest...
This old chestnut. You asked what the issue people were having with it. Not one response said they don’t have the right. They do.
Perhaps get better representation that’s not contradictory to the message. Perhaps not propping up lies and falsehoods as the examples to point to as evidence. And, I don’t really see the issue in tuning them out and turning them off. They’re realizing they don’t have quite the bully pulpit they thought they did. At the end of the day, they’re a service, one I no longer choose to partake in until they make changes to their service that I find more appealing, enough so that I’ll return to using their service. Viewership drops, advertising drops, revenue drops and their value is diminished. Want to get preachy? It’s cool. This is byproduct of it. How strong are your convictions? We’re finding out their money is more important to them than their cause. Because there has been no substantive policy or changes that have been made as a result. We didn’t fix the issues. Quite the opposite. It’s actually regressed.
There were a lot of false hoods and assumptions that you used to justify your stance. Like Blake raped a young girl, false. And that because someone had some past transgressions that they deserved to be suffocated for 10 minutes before dying, or being shot in the back. I think those assumptions to justify unjustified killings is way sadder than a millionaire taking a stance....
According to the Washington Post, 8 unarmed African Americans were killed by police officers in all of 2019. More unarmed white Americans were killed by police officers that same year (19). Although African Americans make up 13% of the population, they commit a vastly disproportionate percentage of violent crimes (for example, according to the FBI in 2018, there were a total of 8.957 murders and non-negligent manslaughters committed in the U.S. with African Americans committing 4,778 of them or just over 53% (which helps explain why African Americans come into more contact with police than their 13% of the population would imply).
There is not a systemic effort by the police to kill African Americans and to perpetuate such a lie will only harm those people who need the police to protect them most, often minority groups. When an officer commits a crime, he or she should be fired and punished in a court of law. I have no issue with getting bad cops off the streets and into prison. I do have a problem when Michael Brown is declared a hero and hands up don't shoot becomes the slogan of BLM and much of the national media and it was all based on a lie. I have a problem when Breonna Taylor's death and subsequent refusal to indict the two police officers results in protests and riots, when the two police officers were fired at first, wounding one, and were simply defending themselves by returning fire.
Over the past 10 days, there have been 5 assassination attempts against police officers across the country. This has gone off the rails.
Fact check: Police killed more unarmed Black men in 2019 than conservative activist claimed
A prominent conservative activist said in a Facebook video that police only killed eight unarmed Black men in the U.S. in 2019. That claim is false.
www.usatoday.com
false data again
Fact check: Police killed more unarmed Black men in 2019 than conservative activist claimed
A prominent conservative activist said in a Facebook video that police only killed eight unarmed Black men in the U.S. in 2019. That claim is false.www.usatoday.com
false data again
So even if 13 is the correct number, is 13 is evidence of systemic police shootings of African Americans, really? 13? Did "hands up don't shoot" actually happen or was it a lie? Were the police officers first fired upon in Louisville or was that a lie also? Did the 5 assassination attempts on police officers happen over the past two weeks or not? The article cites lack of data, but it's apparent to me that when an African American dies at the hands of a police officer there is no shortage of reporting on that death.
Systemic, to me, would indicate very wide spread. There is zero evidence for widespread shootings of unarmed African Americans or killing of African Americans (by methods other than shootings). Moreover, of those 13 shootings, how many were justified? In many of those cases based on the Washington Post's own reporting, the shootings were justified based on the actions of the person shot.
If you're going to claim that police officers routinely and systemically kill unarmed African Americans using any method possible, you better have more evidence than appears in that article.
Harvard study by an African American professor:
Thats shootings.... been other killings too.... i think that artcle says 25 in 2019.... and those are the one reported. As the article says they actually quit keeping the stats because they are unreliable. Im not trying to defend it. Just saying it doesnt bother me that athletes are taking a stance. I was just saying that people like to use fake data to try and say others use fake data. But nothing says fake information more than 2020....
And if owners and athletes take a stand that fans disagree with then those fans can essentially vote with their pocket book as we see playing out. My fear is with the riots and vilification of police officers as systemic killers of African Americans (which is factually incorrect) we are going to see more and more assassination attempts of the police and efforts to defund or even get rid of police (Kapernick's latest). And the fake data you cite also includes hands up don't shoot. It goes both ways.
The Harvard study found:
On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account.
Fact check: Police killed more unarmed Black men in 2019 than conservative activist claimed
A prominent conservative activist said in a Facebook video that police only killed eight unarmed Black men in the U.S. in 2019. That claim is false.www.usatoday.com
false data again
If you read that a little closer you will find that while they proclaim false, they really don’t do themselves justice with words like “could” and “likely”. So, we will just triple the number to 24.
There are 10-15 times that amount of crime in the cities alone. There is an order of magnitude more black on black deaths than police on black deaths.
There are bad people everywhere. You will never get rid of it. The best you can do is have laws and equal punishment.
I know there is inequality.That won’t be abolished completely either. You can’t call for riots and defunding over a few evil. Nor should you lump everyone into a category. Tha
No, but it sure does point to the bigger problem.
Would you prefer sexual assault of a minor in Blake’s case? The aunt says rape. Regardless, he had a knife and had already broken free of police custody.
Floyd ODd on Fentanyl. He suffocated on his own stupidity.
So that makes it ok to riot and loot? How many of their own did they hurt? How many of those businesses closed permanently? I’m not here to attack, but I will not be made to feel bad about the race I was born into. These millionaires have a platform because as an audience, we gave it to them. They are hurting race relations more than helping because of the way they are doing things. Forcing opinions on others typically becomes a huge turn off. I can’t argue that they don’t have that right. This country was founded on such liberties but its not the way to go about it. If you think I’m white then maybe you need to check yourself. Disclaimer, have not mentioned my race. This will hurt communities of minorities more than help.