The NEA budget is literally 1/3rd of the money spent on military...

WVPATX

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NEA (National Endowment for the Arts), like many "charities, can succeed without the help of taxpayers. Donations, donations, donations. I'm sure Warren Buffet would cough up a huge sum for the NEA, if asked. BTW, the NEA receives far less than 1/3 of the military budget.

If you are referring to the National Education Association, why should taxpayers fund a union?
 
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WVPATX

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Canada spent 8 times our budget last year, and plans to double it by 2021

On the arts? Boom, first your facts are hugely in error. The NEA receives far less than 1/3 of our military budget. The other NEA is a union. And frankly, I don't care what other counties do, we have our own unique situation and responsibilitities. Canada has roughly 30 -40M people, less than the size of California. Not a comparison at all. They also don't have a debt load of $20T.
 

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Germany spends 40 times as much.

And Germany spends just 1% of NATO in defiance of their obligations. They need to double that spending to reach their commitment. Time for Germany to reallocate money to live up to their treaty obligations and not depend on the U.S. to defend them.
 

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On the arts? Boom, first your facts are hugely in error. The NEA receives far less than 1/3 of our military budget. The other NEA is a union. And frankly, I don't care what other counties do, we have our own unique situation and responsibilitities. Canada has roughly 30 -40M people, less than the size of California. Not a comparison at all. They also don't have a debt load of $20T.
1/3rd of military budget ON BANDS.
 

Boomboom521

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On the arts? Boom, first your facts are hugely in error. The NEA receives far less than 1/3 of our military budget. The other NEA is a union. And frankly, I don't care what other counties do, we have our own unique situation and responsibilitities. Canada has roughly 30 -40M people, less than the size of California. Not a comparison at all. They also don't have a debt load of $20T.
Someone asked about other countries! Board moderator! Get your facts straight before you power trip
 

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On the arts? Boom, first your facts are hugely in error. The NEA receives far less than 1/3 of our military budget. The other NEA is a union. And frankly, I don't care what other counties do, we have our own unique situation and responsibilitities. Canada has roughly 30 -40M people, less than the size of California. Not a comparison at all. They also don't have a debt load of $20T.
Why it's kinda of important to me is because some folks always tout how much we spend on military versus other countries...if that's the context of some arguments we need a little insight on to how they spend the rest of their money.
 

WVPATX

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1/3rd of military budget ON BANDS.

Misread your first post and only focused on the headline. Again, the NEA is fully capable of soliciting donations. The military defines their needs and their bands play a part in their mission. The first responsibility of our government is to keep us safe. Thank God we had a great military or we'd be speaking German right now.

If the military believes the military bands are in accordance with that mission, it is their budget to manage.

Instead of whining about the NEA funding, donate. Ask you relatives to donate. Ask your friends. I am part of several charities that all serve abused and abandoned children, we get so little government funding that we would not exist without donations which make up about 80% - 90% of our revenues.
 

Boomboom521

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Misread your first post and only focused on the headline. Again, the NEA is fully capable of soliciting donations. The military defines their needs and their bands play a part in their mission. The first responsibility of our government is to keep us safe. Thank God we had a great military or we'd be speaking German right now.

If the military believes the military bands are in accordance with that mission, it is their budget to manage.

Instead of whining about the NEA funding, donate. Ask you relatives to donate. Ask your friends. I am part of several charities that all serve abused and abandoned children, we get so little government funding that we would not exist without donations which make up about 80% - 90% of our revenues.
I donate to PBS, more since the History Channel is moving away from docs. But it's not the point. It's a small portion of the budget that ensures our government supports art. There is a correlation between art and the advancement of a society. Allow a very small amount of funding to inspire and encourage soulful growth. Maybe you're not sure what I referring to?
 

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Why it's kinda of important to me is because some folks always tout how much we spend on military versus other countries...if that's the context of some arguments we need a little insight on to how they spend the rest of their money.
The context was: the entire NEA budget is not even half of what we spend of military bands. Our government believes in art, just as long as it's regulated by the armed forces.
 

WVPATX

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Why it's kinda of important to me is because some folks always tout how much we spend on military versus other countries...if that's the context of some arguments we need a little insight on to how they spend the rest of their money.

If you asking about military spending, it is fully available each year in their budget submission. But as I said, the first responsibility of government and our Commander in Chief is to keep us safe. The world is ablaze right now with struggles all over the world. We, for example, better make sure we can defend the homeland from a ballistic missile attack from North Korea. And we better make sure we can defend the homeland from a dirty bomb in NYC.
 

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The context was: the entire NEA budget is not even half of what we spend of military bands. Our government believes in art, just as long as it's regulated by the armed forces.
Would you want to defund the bands then I guess? What about the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers outfit?
 

WVPATX

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I donate to PBS, more since the History Channel is moving away from docs. But it's not the point. It's a small portion of the budget that ensures our government supports art. There is a correlation between art and the advancement of a society. Allow a very small amount of funding to inspire and encourage soulful growth. Maybe you're not sure what I referring to?

I believe in the Arts. I was on the Junior Board of the Pittsburgh Symphony when I lived there. But as I said, donations are available everywhere. You re only talking about government funding. If the NEA needs more money, go raise the money. That is what every charity that I know of does to overcome any shortfalls. The NEA is fully capable of doing the same.

I love the arts, but I think the needs of abandoned and abused children is more important and we raise money 365 days each year or we would cease to exist.
 

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If you asking about military spending, it is fully available each year in their budget submission. But as I said, the first responsibility of government and our Commander in Chief is to keep us safe. The world is ablaze right now with struggles all over the world. We, for example, better make sure we can defend the homeland from a ballistic missile attack from North Korea. And we better make sure we can defend the homeland from a dirty bomb in NYC.
What a bunch of rubbish. Paranoia much?
 

WVPATX

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What a bunch of rubbish. Paranoia much?

What part was rubbish? I am trying to understand your thinking. North Korea is not a threat? That is news to Clinton, Bush, Obama and now Trump. It is news to Japan and South Korea. It is news to the world.

A dirty bomb in NYC is not a threat? That's news to the Intelligence agencies in particular the FBI.

But please keep you head in the sand and sing kumbayah.
 

WVPATX

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I'd like the funding to continue

You didn't answer my question Boom. There are so very many worthwhile charities. Most rely in large part on donations. Why is the NEA more important than abused and abandoned children, for example? How does the government decide who gets what funding. You may think the NEA is more important and I may think the children are more important.

It is all about priorities and regardless of your or my preferences, the first duty of the President is to protect the homeland.
 

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What part was rubbish? I am trying to understand your thinking. North Korea is not a threat? That is news to Clinton, Bush, Obama and now Trump. It is news to Japan and South Korea. It is news to the world.

A dirty bomb in NYC is not a threat? That's news to the Intelligence agencies in particular the FBI.

But please keep you head in the sand and sing kumbayah.
Hard to sing with your head in the sand
 

Boomboom521

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You didn't answer my question Boom. There are so very many worthwhile charities. Most rely in large part on donations. Why is the NEA more important than abused and abandoned children, for example? How does the government decide who gets what funding. You may think the NEA is more important and I may think the children are more important.

It is all about priorities and regardless of your or my preferences, the first duty of the President is to protect the homeland.
You have a special type of logic Paxx....so, I'm essientially choosing art over starving children and national safety?
 

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What do you have against the military bands? Aren't they also considered "The Arts"? A little John Phillips Sousa by people who can also do some killin?
 

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What do you have against the military bands? Aren't they also considered "The Arts"? A little John Phillips Sousa by people who can also do some killin?
I'm fine with the bands....I'm also fine with the very small budget for the NEA, I just against shutting it down
 

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PBS has good shows for kids AND adults....since History has gone Pawn Star
crazy it's where I go for docs
My point was the kid's shows generate lots of money that should stay with the endowment. I like some of the adult programming like NOVA. Grew up on black & white Dr. Who. Not interested in British Soaps.