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Well you have a point. Trump is fierce about loyalty...Has that race been officially called yet? I dont recall any allegations of voter fraud in Az.
OFC
Think that would lock it in, even if another state was overturned. Things seem to be getting back to normal ever so slowly with some top republicans admitting the president-elect does deserve access to daily briefings, etc....Thats a good sign I think for the country as a whole...
We have close results in several states, quite a bit of “fishy” activities suspected. Computer glitches, massive mail in creating problems. We gave Al Gore 35 days in 2000, and that was just one state.
Until these things play out, the media need to quit parading Sleepy Joe around as if he is the elected President.
I know you guys and gals despise Trump, but the least you could do is let this play out. If the roles were reversed, you all would be asking for the same things as being done now. It would actually be worse cause the media would be out in front of this instead of ignoring it, like they are now.
Until these things play out, the media need to quit parading Sleepy Joe around as if he is the elected President.
I know you guys and gals despise Trump, but the least you could do is let this play out. If the roles were reversed, you all would be asking for the same things as being done now. It would actually be worse cause the media would be out in front of this instead of ignoring it, like they are now.
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The Department of Homeland Security issued a statement last night calling the 2020 election the most secure in history. The following was included in the statement in bold font:
“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised."
Out of curiosity I started doing a variation of searches involving DHS, election and Fox News and found the statement reported by some local Fox affiliates but nothing from the actual Fox News website.
@Mac9192 often questions where I get my news and tells me he refuses to get his from anywhere other than Fox News, but this is an example of why that can be such a dangerous mentality.
Reading their website today, it would be almost as extreme as if I said, "I get my news from the Huffington Post and that's it!"
“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised."
Out of curiosity I started doing a variation of searches involving DHS, election and Fox News and found the statement reported by some local Fox affiliates but nothing from the actual Fox News website.
@Mac9192 often questions where I get my news and tells me he refuses to get his from anywhere other than Fox News, but this is an example of why that can be such a dangerous mentality.
Reading their website today, it would be almost as extreme as if I said, "I get my news from the Huffington Post and that's it!"
He literally is the President-Elect. So why shouldn't they? The only thing that is going to change is his electoral college total going up by 16 votes to give him 306. Along with a 5 million vote lead in the popular vote. Even Trump knows it, hes already reportedly talking about a 2024 run. He's only putting up a fight for his supporters because apparently you all deserve a fight, even though the fights been had and he lost, bigly.
While I was searching for anything about the DHS statement, I ran across these articles on the site.
The differences in the manner of reporting and the tone of the comments section between the three articles are truly jarring.
The differences in the manner of reporting and the tone of the comments section between the three articles are truly jarring.
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What a way things get twisted. I don’t trust most of the news, and if you pay attention, you wouldn’t either. They slant so far to the left. Fox has been where I get most news from, yes, but I have also admitted they aren’t what they used to be. Funny though that little nugget there gets left out. Yet, you all don’t find anything wrong with where you get your news from.
What we have here is a battle: Non Establishment VS Establishment.
Connect the dots children. He’s not a part of the Establishment. It really is that simple.
The best example would be to watch the 1993 movie “Dave.”
What we have here is a battle: Non Establishment VS Establishment.
Connect the dots children. He’s not a part of the Establishment. It really is that simple.
The best example would be to watch the 1993 movie “Dave.”
You have said Fox isn't what it used to be yes, but then quote Tucker Carlson as if he's a bastion of truth. You say it's establishment vs non-establishment, apparently talking about both major parties but then, in the next sentence you talk about horrible Democrats and your fellow liberal citizens are. You aren't anti- establishment, your anti anyone who disagrees with your narrow, rigid and frankly backwards view of the world.
Well the norm is to wait until the results have been certified to make these claims and not obstruct the president-elect from beginning the transition the way that Trump has. As for Gore, it turned out that people had made mistakes on the butterfly ballots and voted for Nader by accident. Obviously they were not entitled to a do over so the only avenue left was to ask for a recount. Maybe it went on too long but there, there was a good faith reason to believe that Gore had won the election.
When Hillary lost in 2016, all the same rumors flew as are flying around now. Supposedly, she lost by the exactly same percentage of voters in Wisconsin and Michigan, I think. People saw that is Russian interference or corruption at the state level. People were raising money for recounts and there was talk that Jill Stein would ask for a recount on Hillary's behalf. Just like now, it was a big nothing burger and Hillary conceded pretty early and Obama did not tell the government organizations to refuse to recognize Trump as the president-elect. There are classy ways to do things and there are not.
Well, he has been president for 4 years. By definition, he is part of the establishment.
This is such a bad post, I had to make sure it wasn’t @Shatterthesky22.
He’s no more Establishment than shatter is a good poster.
*These allegations of Joe Biden being the president elect are false and/or misleading*
Normally I check out of political discussions when one side starts citing film comedies to prove their points, but this is too entertaining. It reminds me of this guy in class quoted Cedric the Entertainer's character in Barbershop for his argument against reparations.
You do know Chad Wolf, the acting Secretary of the DHS, was appointed by Trump and has been in that role for a year, right? It's been speculated that the reason Trump appoints people like Wolf to acting roles rather than nominating them for the actual position so he can put in loyalists who might not otherwise pass the nomination process.
Question: If you think Fox has fallen off recently, do you think good old Fox would have reported the DHS statement?
Didn't realize I was on Twitter! ******* Big-Tech keeps ruining everything *shakes fist angrily at the sky*
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You guys are comical. I don't know how much clearer I could be. You're all actually pretty good. Learned your tactics from the media. Kind of like a pack of wild dogs that run together. I don't know if "good old" Fox would have reported it like you asked. It's obvious to level headed people that news is terrible. Fox isn't terrible, but imo, not as good as they used to be.
The analogy of the movie? Only guys like you can spin that. It's a simple example, a fictional movie and instead of attempting to see the point (that Trump has alienated a bunch of people, all part of Establishment), you counter back. If you can't see what I was saying, you're as clueless as the other stooges here (shatter, boogie, and durham).
I get what you're saying.
Do you think your establishment line of thinking applies to the DHS statement?
I am skeptical of the DHS statement, yes. I think this is real easy to figure out. Trump is not a part of them. He is a threat to them. Yes, he has a big mouth. Yes, he sometimes says crazy things. But, he is right with what he has said. People have signed sworn statements, the suspected computer glitches, and the most questionable of all, the massive flip several states made where Trump led big, then found himself down. If this was Biden in Trump's shoes, he would not concede either.
Of course Clinton said to Biden, Under no circumstances, do not concede Joe.
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It's sad people still believe this way. They openly express those beliefs on the internet and in public. They're even more open about espousing those horrible beliefs after feeling emboldened by their leader to do so. Reading those comments gives me little hope we can truly change as a nation and come together.
Cmon Mac every anomaly in the election seems to go one way so there is obviously nothing to see.You also have to know if ask someone who is involved into the allegations of fraud and they say nothing to see you must accept it.Just like inShawshank I am innocent my lawyer screwed me.
Completely agree Topps. It is an extreme uphill battle that Trump faces. Too many Americans have been brainwashed by the media into believing what they say. The establishment is so powerful. Scary powerful.
You and I both know the media would be screaming bloody murder if the roles in this election were reversed. The liberals on here would have more of a field day than us conservatives have.
This is as obvious as Shatter is clueless.
Wait til there is no mail in for GA Senate, and someone is watching every ballot. Should not be that close, but we will see.
Do you really believe Chad Wolf would allow the DHS statement to be released if he did not believe it to be accurate?
Have you read the sworn statements? If not, please read some of them and let me know if you still think they are smoking guns?
Why are the massive turnarounds in in Texas, Ohio and Florida legitimate but then ones in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia are questionable?
An interesting point of research would be if there is a state that allowed for early processing of mail-in ballots in which Biden did not hold an early lead.
Why do you think there would be no mail-in voting in January? Covid is clearly not going to be gone like so many predicted.
If the DHS continues to state there was nothing wrong with the 2020 general and the total Atlanta recount and audit fail to turn up anything there would be no reasonable reason to discourage mail-in voting. If anything, we are seeing that the promotion of more voting options leads to more people voting. That is a good thing.
You really just compared Texas, Ohio, and Florida to Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia? Seriously? States that had their acts together and were finished election night to 3 states where, when voting stopped in those 3 states at 10 pm, Trump had leads of 287,000, 664,000, and 300,000? We are to believe there was nothing fishy in swarms of mail ins coming in, counted by people living in dumpster fires for cities? Not to mention the rumors of computer glitches. Notice I said rumors. Where did you get your Masters from?
Nevada is not a densely populated state, and they can't count all the votes. Alaska finally just gave Trump the win, and they struggled. Arizona isn't done. Georgia is doing a recount. North Carolina still hasn't announced.
Have I read the sworn statements? No. Have you? You actually think people in our government are honest? That's past funny, to the point of naive.
Those three states allowed for mail-in ballots to be processed early. I know you're not too simple as to understand the difference.
For the record, at the time I'm typing this, Ohio is actually still showing 5 percent of their ballots not reported, higher than the three states you're saying didn't have their acts together.
My reference to Chad Wolf has nothing to do with his honest or integrity. It's about logic. What motivation would a hand-picked Trump appointee (who has held an acting title for a year so as to avoid confirmation process) have to allow his agency to issue a statement that flies in the face of everything his boss is selling right now?
I have read some of them, and I have read several more articles about them. They are light on voter-fraud and heavy on innuendo and being scare at the sight of Black people in Detroit.