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hart2chesson

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Ol' Rudy.....wonder how he'll be remembered in the Trump Era??? OFC
 

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Ron Klain 2014 tweet claiming all elections are rigged has surfaced
Topps I imagine there's some degree of impropriety in all elections. It is simply a matter of how much and not getting caught. Sad both parties can't play by the rules....
Actually, hart, Klain was responding to a Vox article about incumbents and gerrymandering. His "rigged" comment went to the fact that incumbents had ways to keep themselves in power by things like gerrymandering so the average voter's vote did not always count. There have been numerous studies on voter fraud and all of them, even those started by conservative think tanks, have failed to find any evidence of it. But, once the S.Ct limited the reach of the voting rights act, it became easier to purge voting roles, gerrymander and make it harder for voters to vote. That is where the real problems lie.
 

hart2chesson

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Actually, hart, Klain was responding to a Vox article about incumbents and gerrymandering. His "rigged" comment went to the fact that incumbents had ways to keep themselves in power by things like gerrymandering so the average voter's vote did not always count. There have been numerous studies on voter fraud and all of them, even those started by conservative think tanks, have failed to find any evidence of it. But, once the S.Ct limited the reach of the voting rights act, it became easier to purge voting roles, gerrymander and make it harder for voters to vote. That is where the real problems lie.

Thank you for the info DG....
 
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topps coach

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Actually, hart, Klain was responding to a Vox article about incumbents and gerrymandering. His "rigged" comment went to the fact that incumbents had ways to keep themselves in power by things like gerrymandering so the average voter's vote did not always count. There have been numerous studies on voter fraud and all of them, even those started by conservative think tanks, have failed to find any evidence of it. But, once the S.Ct limited the reach of the voting rights act, it became easier to purge voting roles, gerrymander and make it harder for voters to vote. That is where the real problems lie.
Wonder why only Democrats discuss rigged elections,voter fraud machines ,and suggesting that Democrats temporarily moving into a state to steal an election
 

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Actually, hart, Klain was responding to a Vox article about incumbents and gerrymandering. His "rigged" comment went to the fact that incumbents had ways to keep themselves in power by things like gerrymandering so the average voter's vote did not always count. There have been numerous studies on voter fraud and all of them, even those started by conservative think tanks, have failed to find any evidence of it. But, once the S.Ct limited the reach of the voting rights act, it became easier to purge voting roles, gerrymander and make it harder for voters to vote. That is where the real problems lie.
You mean gerrymandering like creating the district that got Jim Clyburn elected
 

durhamgolfer

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This has to be the worst comparison ever.

Here’s a better comparison sport: That would be like Duke being up 25 with 3 minutes to go, then the power goes out, and when the lights come back on 30 seconds later, Kentucky is up 5 with 15 seconds to go.
Kind of odd isn’t it?
a better comparison is one where there is a rational explanation for the change but it is simply rejected by people who refuse to be reasonable.
 

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Hypocrites I swear...if roles were reversed, they would be doing the exact same thing...no, worse, way worse!
 
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There would be entire cities burning
Maybe it’s a blessing in disguise . I mean, what really is Joe going to do/accomplish in 4, no 1 or 2 years. It keeps the easily manipulated libturds happy and out of the streets, and out of my way lol.
 

Mac9192

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Oh yeah, if this scenario were reversed, cities would be on fire, people would be injured...and the majority of the media would sympathize with them.
If you can’t see the double standard in our country, you should do what Biden did, but longer. And that’s hunker down in your basement.
 

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Mac9192

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Just watched a video from Bill O’Reilly. More dots get connected, but little reporting will be done on it. State of Union in 18, Trump said prescription prices were too high. They come down a little during his term. The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t like him because of that.
He and his staff accused Pfizer of delaying announcement of vaccine until after election. Trump knew the fix was in, and tweeted a message in August claiming they would try to hold off a vaccine until after the election.
Pfizer denied working with the government. Yet they signed a contract with the government for 1.2 billion.

You guys can deny this all you want, but it’s another sign of Non Establishment vs Establishment. Most politicians don’t have the stones to say something negative about something so big like the pharmaceutical industry, but what Trump said is spot on.
 
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Just watched a video from Bill O’Reilly. More dots get connected, but little reporting will be done on it. State of Union in 18, Trump said prescription prices were too high. They come down a little during his term. The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t like him because of that.
He and his staff accused Pfizer of delaying announcement of vaccine until after election. Trump knew the fix was in, and tweeted a message in August claiming they would try to hold off a vaccine until after the election.
Pfizer denied working with the government. Yet they signed a contract with the government for 1.2 billion.

You guys can deny this all you want, but it’s another sign of Non Establishment vs Establishment. Most politicians don’t have the stones to say something negative about something so big like the pharmaceutical industry, but what Trump said is spot on.
Of course if Trump acted like a leader from the beginning, promoted mask wearing and advocated social distancing, it might not have mattered when the vaccine was around. He shot himself in the foot. Not Pfizer.
 
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Buckle up for energy bills.Looney Democratic governor Whitner filing lawsuit to halt the flow of 23 million barrels of oil under Great Lakes because it could spring a leak even though it never has
 
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Of course if Trump acted like a leader from the beginning, promoted mask wearing and advocated social distancing, it might not have mattered when the vaccine was around. He shot himself in the foot. Not Pfizer.
If that idiot Biden had been in charge there would probably be two million deaths like was projected.He would never have Banned travel-from China because of business dealings.Know you want to forget it but he said China was not a threat and shutting them out was racist and xenophobic
 
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Mac9192

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If that idiot Biden had been in charge there would probably be two million deaths like was projected.He would never have Banned travel-from China because of business dealings.Know you want to forget it but he said China was not a threat and shutting them out was racist and xenophobic
They just refuse to do nothing but vote off feelings Topps. They have no clue on what Trump has done to DC. So brainwashed. Anybody, and I mean anybody, with half a brain knows Biden is incompetent. The media will make him look good.
Blaming social distancing and masks on Trump. That’s retarded talk. He sent help to that incompetent Cuomo, and instead of using that help, he herded seniors to their death.
Liberals honestly are stupid. No sense in beating around the bush.
 
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Mac9192

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The yahoo article about the violence that broke out leaves out some very important info. No surprise. Supposedly, some Antifa (thugs) tried to possibly cause a little trouble earlier in the day, but were run off. Then, when it was dark, trouble started. They waited til then to come back out and cause trouble.
The Trump protest had wound down, and was peaceful all day. On one corner, there was a group harassing the now individuals walking by. The name of the area where the trouble occurred?
Black Lives Matter Plaza. The horrible media doesn’t know the truth, and doesn’t care about reporting it.

Trump is right. These cowards called mayors and governors are gutless excuses for leaders. Why haven’t they done anything about the riots, burning, and looting? They would be scolding their base, that’s why. They don’t want to lose their vote. Pretty disgraceful.
 
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IFaZe

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I think we should cancel the season and social distance with mandatory masks everywhere. Don’t half *** it lol
 

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The yahoo article about the violence that broke out leaves out some very important info. No surprise. Supposedly, some Antifa (thugs) tried to possibly cause a little trouble earlier in the day, but were run off. Then, when it was dark, trouble started. They waited til then to come back out and cause trouble.
The Trump protest had wound down, and was peaceful all day. On one corner, there was a group harassing the now individuals walking by. The name of the area where the trouble occurred?
Black Lives Matter Plaza. The horrible media doesn’t know the truth, and doesn’t care about reporting it.

Trump is right. These cowards called mayors and governors are gutless excuses for leaders. Why haven’t they done anything about the riots, burning, and looting? They would be scolding their base, that’s why. They don’t want to lose their vote. Pretty disgraceful.
Lmao pretty sure the only ones inciting violence were Trump and of course the White Supremacy group The Proud Boys. Who, if you would've cared to watch the video were ganging up and beating one man senseless. Or maybe you could've read Trump's tweet calling for the police to use violence against the counter protesters, who had just as much to be there as the terrorist Proud Boys.
 

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If that idiot Biden had been in charge there would probably be two million deaths like was projected.He would never have Banned travel-from China because of business dealings.Know you want to forget it but he said China was not a threat and shutting them out was racist and xenophobic

You might wanna actually fact check that...the ban was very porous and stull allowed people from certain territories...over 8000 Chinese and foreign nationals....27000 Americans from mainland China..great,but over 1600 wete lost track off for viris monitoring....he didn't ban ban.....also it had migrated to Europe and thats what hit us the hardest...all the thousands of euros that landed in NYC