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[Mac9192]

The point you made was Japan didn't invade inland following Pearl Harbor was because they knew U.S. citizens would be armed.

You said, "it has been said." I then told you where it was said (you didn't dispute my statement) and that those comments were refuted by historians. You then pivoted and created an analogy to a criminal breaking into Ipsy's house, all the while calling people girls and telling them they're being obtuse.

Ok, some historians have said the comment wasn’t accurate. I never said it was a factual comment. That’s what you guys do, you miss the points. You guys are just like the media, you cherry pick something. My point about guns was based off Shatters ridiculous post wanting to ban them, and you reaching about the government. The chance for crime is reduced when good people are armed, and can protect themselves.
Taking guns away is dangerous, and only puts good people at risk. You take away guns, only the bad people will have them.

You can try to spin this all you want, but that’s a fact.

 

[Jtre]

Ok, some historians have said the comment wasn’t accurate. I never said it was a factual comment. That’s what you guys do, you miss the points. You guys are just like the media, you cherry pick something. My point about guns was based off Shatters ridiculous post wanting to ban them, and you reaching about the government. The chance for crime is reduced when good people are armed, and can protect themselves.
Taking guns away is dangerous, and only puts good people at risk. You take away guns, only the bad people will have them.

You can try to spin this all you want, but that’s a fact.

1. I said I was against the idea of banning guns.

2. I didn't miss any point. I read a comment you made, in response to a question I asked, called ******** and explained why I called ********.

 

[denverexpat]

I was going by timelines, but yes it definitely sounds like the ringleader is very much the Timothy McVeigh type and not a Trump fan.

I stand by my statement that comments such as those made by Trump and Trump Jr. being reckless and potentially dangerous.

I think you will find dangerous rhetoric coming from both sides. Neither has a monoploy on it. In fact there is some serious "spiking of the football" rhetoric coming from the democrat side right now that is far from the "unite" message that supposedly won this election

 

[Jtre]

I think you will find dangerous rhetoric coming from both sides. Neither has a monoploy on it. In fact there is some serious "spiking of the football" rhetoric coming from the democrat side right now that is far from the "unite" message that supposedly won this election

I don't know how much is coming out at this moment from actual party officials, seeing as how we're in the midst of a Biden win, but I have no problem calling that out, either. You can go back a couple days and see where I condemned Maxine Waters's earlier comments.

 

[Mac9192]

1. I said I was against the idea of banning guns.

2. I didn't miss any point. I read a comment you made, in response to a question I asked, called ******** and explained why I called ********.

I never said the comment I made was factual. It was a comment supposedly made. I stand by what I said about guns, and the citizens being armed. You came in with a ******** comeback with tanks. Shatter is the dipshit that said ban guns, you just flew in missing the point, which you still are. I never said you wanted to ban guns. But, you’re being obtuse, and thinking ways to refute what I said, which is we need to be armed.

 

[Jtre]

I never said the comment I made was factual. It was a comment supposedly made. I stand by what I said about guns, and the citizens being armed. You came in with a ******** comeback with tanks. Shatter is the dipshit that said ban guns, you just flew in missing the point, which you still are. I never said you wanted to ban guns. But, you’re being obtuse, and thinking ways to refute what I said, which is we need to be armed.

Your comment was in direct response to my asking how the right to keep and bear arms is supposed to protect against a tyrannical government in today's time.

Beyond that, why would you respond with something you know not to be factual? Seriously, what does that bring to the table other than hoping some moron will hear it, repeat it and continue to spread untruths to support an important stance.

Fact #1: We should not ban firearms.

Fact #2: You don't need to make up **** to support Fact #1 and doing so only hurts your argument.

 

[Mac9192]

I saw where Biden has been elected as the 46th President. Somewhere around 70 million people voted for Trump. They aren’t happy. But, has any buildings been burned, or looted yet by these upset voters?

 

[IFaZe]

Keyword “yet”. man we have some stupid people on our side too...I don’t think we’d do that but yea...I’m bracing lol

 

[Jtre]

I saw where Biden has been elected as the 46th President. Somewhere around 70 million people voted for Trump. They aren’t happy. But, has any buildings been burned, or looted yet by these upset voters?

I haven't seen any. I don't recall anything other than the Brooks Brothers riots of 2000, either. I don't recall any riots following the 1988 election, either.

When a country elects a racist who loses the popular vote, openly solicits help (said it was a joke) from foreign governments, traffics in conspiracy theories and stereotypes while spewing hatred at large portions of his constituency you might expect heavy protesting. It is inevitable that some of those protests will lead to problems.

For the record, the protests this summer's protesting and rioting ( I don't condone rioting and looting) were not about Donald Trump. They were about people being tired of seeing Black folks being killed or beaten by police and the officers not being held accountable. Donald Trump became a subject of them because he failed to acknowledge that the **** happens far too often, most likely because he knows a section of his base doesn't think it happens enough.

All that said, you know there are a portion of his supporters who will be more than willing to take to the streets. They did it some this summer and Trump encouraged in 2016 if he lost.

 

[Mac9192]

I haven't seen any. I don't recall anything other than the Brooks Brothers riots of 2000, either. I don't recall any riots following the 1988 election, either.

When a country elects a racist who loses the popular vote, openly solicits help (said it was a joke) from foreign governments, traffics in conspiracy theories and stereotypes while spewing hatred at large portions of his constituency you might expect heavy protesting. It is inevitable that some of those protests will lead to problems.

For the record, the protests this summer's protesting and rioting ( I don't condone rioting and looting) were not about Donald Trump. They were about people being tired of seeing Black folks being killed or beaten by police and the officers not being held accountable. Donald Trump became a subject of them because he failed to acknowledge that the **** happens far too often, most likely because he knows a section of his base doesn't think it happens enough.

All that said, you know there are a portion of his supporters who will be more than willing to take to the streets. They did it some this summer and Trump encouraged in 2016 if he lost.

Do you know Trump rejuvenated the base, and got more minorities to vote for him than in recent elections?
Not bad for a racist guy, huh?
You try coming off as levelheaded, but the more you talk, the more venom and ******** comes out.

 

[denverexpat]

I haven't seen any. I don't recall anything other than the Brooks Brothers riots of 2000, either. I don't recall any riots following the 1988 election, either.

When a country elects a racist who loses the popular vote, openly solicits help (said it was a joke) from foreign governments, traffics in conspiracy theories and stereotypes while spewing hatred at large portions of his constituency you might expect heavy protesting. It is inevitable that some of those protests will lead to problems.

For the record, the protests this summer's protesting and rioting ( I don't condone rioting and looting) were not about Donald Trump. They were about people being tired of seeing Black folks being killed or beaten by police and the officers not being held accountable. Donald Trump became a subject of them because he failed to acknowledge that the **** happens far too often, most likely because he knows a section of his base doesn't think it happens enough.

All that said, you know there are a portion of his supporters who will be more than willing to take to the streets. They did it some this summer and Trump encouraged in 2016 if he lost.

You were approaching debate with some sense, until this post. Just couldnt help yourself could you?
If you traffic in hyperbole and not facts then inevitably it becomes a rant not a logical position

 

[Jtre]

Do you know Trump rejuvenated the base, and got more minorities to vote for him than in recent elections?
Not bad for a racist guy, huh?
You try coming off as levelheaded, but the more you talk, the more venom and ******** comes out.

Sometime in the future, once exit polls are more concrete, I would like to revisit and maybe share a little about some if the minorities who may have voted for him. Some of its inside baseball, and to be clear, at no point is it going to have anything to do with the stuff I see white people say where they seem to think Blacks who get an education are sellouts, trying to be white or any similar stuff.

How is what I said venomous ********? We can break down point by point what I said about Trump running in 2016.

1. Racist: You can start with his housing practice lawsuits, move on to the Central Park 5 and continue as far you would like.

2. Lost the popular vote. Self explanatory.

3. Openly solicits help (said he was joking): Remeber, "Russia if you find the emails?"

4. Traffics in conspiracy theories: Obama birth certificate and Ted Cruz's daddy jump to mind. Much more came later.

5. Traffics in stereotypes: We can start with how he painted Mexicans in the run-up to 2016 and go to, well, pretty much any group you would like other than straight white males.

6. Spews hate at constituency: They weren't technically his constituency in 2016 campaign so this is more during his time in office.

I'm not sure if you considered my thoughts about the 2020 protests and riots to be venomous ********. If you did, I don't care on that topic. You already told me you don't believe minorities can speak for themselves, so how you feel about racial matters is pretty clear.

 

[Jtre]

You were approaching debate with some sense, until this post. Just couldnt help yourself could you?
If you traffic in hyperbole and not facts then inevitably it becomes a rant not a logical position

Which part was hyperbole?

 

[Mac9192]

@Jtre, we all need to step back. You’ve gone off the rails. The longer it goes, the more your racism comes out.
Go lay down a while and decompress. Your candidate won. Let’s see what happens now.

 

[Jtre]

@Jtre, we all need to step back. You’ve gone off the rails. The longer it goes, the more your racism comes out.
Go lay down a while and decompress. Your candidate won. Let’s see what happens now.

I'm not sure how my reminding you about the comment you made in which you said minorities are unable to think for themselves is showing my racism, but you have already said earlier that you don't mind making untrue statements while trying to make a point.

 

[durhamgolfer]

I'm not sure how my reminding you about the comment you made in which you said minorities are unable to think for themselves is showing my racism, but you have already said earlier that you don't mind making untrue statements while trying to make a point.

trying to have a rational conversation with these guys is an impossibility. I do like reading your posts, though. Lots of interesting information.

 

[Mac9192]

I'm not sure how my reminding you about the comment you made in which you said minorities are unable to think for themselves is showing my racism, but you have already said earlier that you don't mind making untrue statements while trying to make a point.

You just don’t get it. Twist what’s said. The minority comment in relation to voting? I stand by that. It’s factual. Most vote off false information, and have been for decades. It’s the truth. Trump actually made things better for minorities during his term. Unemployment was down for black Americans. But they’ve been brainwashed into believing republicans are the enemy. By the democrats. For the sole purpose of getting their vote.
Spin it how you want, call it what you want, but it’s facts.

 

[durhamgolfer]

You just don’t get it. Twist what’s said. The minority comment in relation to voting? I stand by that. It’s factual. Most vote off false information, and have been for decades. It’s the truth. Trump actually made things better for minorities during his term. Unemployment was down for black Americans. But they’ve been brainwashed into believing republicans are the enemy. By the democrats. For the sole purpose of getting their vote.
Spin it how you want, call it what you want, but it’s facts.

And you don't think saying a particular racial group has been brainwashed is not a tad bit racist?

 

[Jtre]

You just don’t get it. Twist what’s said. The minority comment in relation to voting? I stand by that. It’s factual. Most vote off false information, and have been for decades. It’s the truth. Trump actually made things better for minorities during his term. Unemployment was down for black Americans. But they’ve been brainwashed into believing republicans are the enemy. By the democrats. For the sole purpose of getting their vote.
Spin it how you want, call it what you want, but it’s facts.

I said minorities don't need the media and politicians to tell them what to think and that minorities are more than capable of drawing from their own life experiences. This was in a larger post but you cut this one part out and responded by saying it is not true.

I'm not spinning. That is the exact order of the dialogue.

I'm confused though. You still stick to the idea that non-whites can't think for themselves and are brainwashed, but just a post up you touted how many minorities (still terribly low) voted for Donald Trump. Were the folks who voted for Trump brainwashed and manipulated by a candidate who told them the economy would fall apart and Christmas would be canceled because his opponent isn't a big fan of God or did they think for themselves?

 

[Shatterthesky22]

Just woke up, Georgia should be called soon, 306 electoral votes BYEDON!!!

 

[politicsasusual21_rivals176516]

It’s not on the up and up. Way too many cracks. No way to accurately know if the ballot is from where it says, and who it’s from. Not a doubt in my mind that something crooked (criminal) is going on.

So there is no real evidence that it is criminal, other than you hereby claiming it?

 

[Shatterthesky22]

So there is no real evidence that it is criminal, other than you hereby claiming it?

Just like his prez.

 

[Shatterthesky22]

Say it with me! The President of the United States...Joe Biden!!

 

[Mac9192]

And you don't think saying a particular racial group has been brainwashed is not a tad bit racist?

Not at all. Can’t help you’re soft as rainwater.
It’s a sad truth.

 

[Jtre]

Not at all. Can’t help you’re soft as rainwater.
It’s a sad truth.

@Mac9192 is the type of person that will tell you they're not racist they just don't believe in interracial relationships.

 

[Shatterthesky22]

@Mac9192 is the type of person that will tell you they're not racist they just don't believe in interracial relationships.

@Mac9192 is a lot of things...and I'm certain racist is among them.

 

[Mac9192]

@Mac9192 is the type of person that will tell you they're not racist they just don't believe in interracial relationships.

Atta boy Jtre. You’re showing to be almost as clueless as Shatter, which is saying a lot, and the more you say, the more your ignorance shows.
Since you brought up something, I’ve dated several black ladies. I have a daughter, and my biggest concern for her future dating is to find a boy that will treat her better than I do. Color isn’t an issue. Behavior is, as are beliefs. If she brought someone like you and Shatter home, I’d throw your asses out.
You two are more racist than the conservatives on here. Durhamgolfer is as bad as Shatter, and that’s saying a lot for a lady.

 

[Shatterthesky22]

 

[Shatterthesky22]

Atta boy Jtre. You’re showing to be almost as clueless as Shatter, which is saying a lot, and the more you say, the more your ignorance shows.
Since you brought up something, I’ve dated several black ladies. I have a daughter, and my biggest concern for her future dating is to find a boy that will treat her better than I do. Color isn’t an issue. Behavior is, as are beliefs. If she brought someone like you and Shatter home, I’d throw your asses out.
You two are more racist than the conservatives on here. Durhamgolfer is as bad as Shatter, and that’s saying a lot for a lady.

Better than you do? Are you suggesting that you do not treat your daughter well enough? Is this a possible admission of fault from the great and mighty @Mac9192?!!??! ******* 2020, never know what you're gonna get.

 

[Mac9192]

Better than you do? Are you suggesting that you do not treat your daughter well enough? Is this a possible admission of fault from the great and mighty @Mac9192?!!??! ****ing 2020, never know what you're gonna get.

You boy, are an f n idiot. Any dad with half a brain knows exactly what I’m talking about.
But, you called me a racist, and after reading my post, this ridiculous post is what you come back with?
You truly are a dipshit.

 

[topps coach]

You boy, are an f n idiot. Any dad with half a brain knows exactly what I’m talking about.
But, you called me a racist, and after reading my post, this ridiculous post is what you come back with?
You truly are a dipshit.

A dipshit who if said that to a father in person would get his *** kicked

 

[Mac9192]

A dipshit who if said that to a father in person would get his *** kicked

I would say he has **** for brains, but that would be insulting ****.

 

[Shatterthesky22]

A dipshit who if said that to a father in person would get his *** kicked

Calm down internet tough guy.

 

[Shatterthesky22]

You boy, are an f n idiot. Any dad with half a brain knows exactly what I’m talking about.
But, you called me a racist, and after reading my post, this ridiculous post is what you come back with?
You truly are a dipshit.

One dad to another, I know you treat your daughter like a second class citizen because if you did not, you wouldn't be supporting Trump. He is the exact antithesis to what any father anywhere should aspire to be and treats his own children (especially his daughters) as nothing more than pawns, as dumb blonde bimbos. So the fact that you look up to him tells me all i need to know. You are a cowardly racist relic from a time that is ever so quickly being left in the rear view mirror. I hope for your kids sake that one day you do wake up and look in the mirror and realize how badly you ****** up but, considering you remind me a lot of my own father I doubt that will ever happen.

 

[Jtre]

Atta boy Jtre. You’re showing to be almost as clueless as Shatter, which is saying a lot, and the more you say, the more your ignorance shows.
Since you brought up something, I’ve dated several black ladies. I have a daughter, and my biggest concern for her future dating is to find a boy that will treat her better than I do. Color isn’t an issue. Behavior is, as are beliefs. If she brought someone like you and Shatter home, I’d throw your asses out.
You two are more racist than the conservatives on here. Durhamgolfer is as bad as Shatter, and that’s saying a lot for a lady.

I probably shouldn't have made the sarcastic comment about interracial dating. I should have just explicitly stated what I meant.

The way you dismiss your own bigoted statements as not racist reminds me of the individuals who are quick to find racism in the views of Black folks who speak out against racism but only see white racism when whites call somebody the N-word.

Since you brought up your dating history, did you tell the women you thought they were brainwashed and unable to think for themselves?

And, the stuff about your daughter, I would throw me out too if I were you. As I've said, I'm a married family and I think we're close in age so that would be pretty weird.

 

[Mac9192]

Just when I think @Shatterthesky22 can’t post anything dumber than his other posts, he shows he can. This kid should have been given a vasectomy when he hit puberty.
The fact he breeds is a sad and disappointing thing.

 

[Mac9192]

I probably shouldn't have made the sarcastic comment about interracial dating. I should have just explicitly stated what I meant.

The way you dismiss your own bigoted statements as not racist reminds me of the individuals who are quick to find racism in the views of Black folks who speak out against racism but only see white racism when whites call somebody the N-word.

Since you brought up your dating history, did you tell the women you thought they were brainwashed and unable to think for themselves?

And, the stuff about your daughter, I would throw me out too if I were you. As I've said, I'm a married family and I think we're close in age so that would be pretty weird.

I’m not a bigot. You can’t handle the truth. Blacks get called sellouts for not voting democrat by their own party. It’s the truth. To vote continually for a party that has done nothing to improve your way of life, yet acts like they will, is the definition of insanity.
On the matter of my daughter and this ridiculous comment you make about you dating her? That’s another sign of something flying over your head, or a pathetic attempt at humor.
Either way, you’re showing to be almost as much of a clown as Shatter. So, you might ought to stop. The more you post, the more your ignorance shows.

Be happy, your party won. You hacks just do one favor, judge our next President with out your liberal goggles on. That will require you to watch some actual news. Not what you’ve been watching.

 

[Jtre]

Just when I think @Shatterthesky22 can’t post anything dumber than his other posts, he shows he can. This kid should have been given a vasectomy when he hit puberty.
The fact he breeds is a sad and disappointing thing.

Since you have, several times now, grouped @Shatterthesky22 and me, I'd like say that I don't agree with the father parts of his post. I don't know what kind of father you are, but just by the fact that you have mentioned your kids multiple times, leads me to believe you love your daughter and any other children you might have.

 

[Mac9192]

Since you have, several times now, grouped @Shatterthesky22 and me, I'd like say that I don't agree with the father parts of his post. I don't know what kind of father you are, but just by the fact that you have mentioned your kids multiple times, leads me to believe you love your daughter and any other children you might have.

Thank you. Let’s stop on this one. Good post to end the night with

 

[Jtre]

I’m not a bigot. You can’t handle the truth. Blacks get called sellouts for not voting democrat by their own party. It’s the truth. To vote continually for a party that has done nothing to improve your way of life, yet acts like they will, is the definition of insanity.
On the matter of my daughter and this ridiculous comment you make about you dating her? That’s another sign of something flying over your head, or a pathetic attempt at humor.
Either way, you’re showing to be almost as much of a clown as Shatter. So, you might ought to stop. The more you post, the more your ignorance shows.

Be happy, your party won. You hacks just do one favor, judge our next President with out your liberal goggles on. That will require you to watch some actual news. Not what you’ve been watching.

Why are you so insulting? Straight up, I have called you a racist. I did so because you made a racist statement, had it pointed out as such and then doubled down on it. Outside of that, I attack your comments, not you.

You're telling me I need to watch actual news, not what I watch now. Maybe you should do actual research. Just today you cited a Facebook meme to support an argument. I read it, was pretty sure it sounded like something I had heard refuted and took 10 minutes to find multiple, non-political sites to refute it.

It's not hard.