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You just repeated every bs liberal nonsense that had been going on since2016

Uhhhhh... every bit of that is fact.

Every

bit.

Find ONE sentence in there that isn’t. Just one. And I’ll prove you dead wrong.

And if REALLY want to pretend Joe Biden has done just as bad or worse... you’ve got a lot of work ahead of you;)
 

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Hey @topps coach, honest question... do you know the story about Trump calling reporters pretending to be a Trump spokesperson?

Just curious if stories like this, which are common knowledge to many, are the kind of thing that comes through in your particular media sphere?
 

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Ouch. Fairly direct message there. Current member of the House and former Orlando chief of police.

 

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Man, a lot out there right now. Guess we know where all of this stuff about Dr. Brix being overwhelmed started...



WASHINGTON — Top White House officials pressured the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this summer to play down the risk of sending children back to school, a strikingly political intervention in one of the most sensitive public health debates of the pandemic, according to documents and interviews with current and former government officials.

As part of their behind-the-scenes effort, White House officials also tried to circumvent the C.D.C. in a search for alternate data showing that the pandemic was weakening and posed little danger to children.

The documents and interviews show how the White House spent weeks trying to press public health professionals to fall in line with President Trump’s election-year agenda of pushing to reopen schools and the economy as quickly as possible. The president and his team have remained defiant in their demand for schools to get back to normal, even as coronavirus cases have once again ticked up, in some cases linked to school and college reopenings.

The effort included Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, and officials working for Vice President Mike Pence, who led the task force. It left officials at the C.D.C., long considered the world’s premier public health agency, alarmed at the degree of pressure from the White House.
 

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Hey @topps coach, honest question... do you know the story about Trump calling reporters pretending to be a Trump spokesperson?

Just curious if stories like this, which are common knowledge to many, are the kind of thing that comes through in your particular media sphere?
Yes I do.Do not know how many times I have say it I think Trump personally is probably a privileged arrogant jerk.But Biden is as well.My support for Trump is that he is competent and gotten positive things done for the country.Biden is a incompetent political hack who will be a puppet for the left wing as evidenced by his platform which echoes the progressive left wing of the Democratic Party.There is a reason that AOC says they can control Biden
 
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Man, a lot out there right now. Guess we know where all of this stuff about Dr. Brix being overwhelmed started...



WASHINGTON — Top White House officials pressured the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this summer to play down the risk of sending children back to school, a strikingly political intervention in one of the most sensitive public health debates of the pandemic, according to documents and interviews with current and former government officials.

As part of their behind-the-scenes effort, White House officials also tried to circumvent the C.D.C. in a search for alternate data showing that the pandemic was weakening and posed little danger to children.

The documents and interviews show how the White House spent weeks trying to press public health professionals to fall in line with President Trump’s election-year agenda of pushing to reopen schools and the economy as quickly as possible. The president and his team have remained defiant in their demand for schools to get back to normal, even as coronavirus cases have once again ticked up, in some cases linked to school and college reopenings.

The effort included Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, and officials working for Vice President Mike Pence, who led the task force. It left officials at the C.D.C., long considered the world’s premier public health agency, alarmed at the degree of pressure from the White House.

The NYT working overtime to interfere in the election pumping out fake news.

Does anyone actually take them seriously any longer besides the idiots who can’t think for themselves?
 

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Thank you for sharing. Since the site linked in the tweet is the only one reporting this, do you mind keeping us updated?

Here is interesting information I found, though, in my attempt to look a little deeper.

Mark A. Aguirre is not actually a retired former police captain. He is a fired, five times indicted former police captain who cost the city close to a million dollars for orchestrating a raid of a KMart parking lot that led to the arrest of 278 teenagers (haven't nailed down the racial make up of the group, but based on the area I'll let you throw out a guess as to what most of them looked like) who were basically hanging out in a parking lot. The charges were all dismissed.

Charles Marler also doesn't appear to be a retired FBI agent, like the article states. I'm basing that off the company he works for listing his employment with the Bureau as 16 years and his picture looking significantly younger than a retiree, so I may be wrong.
 

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Thank you for sharing. Since the site linked in the tweet is the only one reporting this, do you mind keeping us updated?

Here is interesting information I found, though, in my attempt to look a little deeper.

Mark A. Aguirre is not actually a retired former police captain. He is a fired, five times indicted former police captain who cost the city close to a million dollars for orchestrating a raid of a KMart parking lot that led to the arrest of 278 teenagers (haven't nailed down the racial make up of the group, but based on the area I'll let you throw out a guess as to what most of them looked like) who were basically hanging out in a parking lot. The charges were all dismissed.

Charles Marler also doesn't appear to be a retired FBI agent, like the article states. I'm basing that off the company he works for listing his employment with the Bureau as 16 years and his picture looking significantly younger than a retiree, so I may be wrong.
Yeah. I live in Texas, so it was of special interest to me. I will post more as I hear it.

Here are a few more articles on it. Haven't read all these yet, but I plan on it.



 

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A worthwhile read about the NYT findings about Trumps taxes, from JustSecurity.org. Not too complicated (sorry, I mean that the article isn't complicated, not the situation.)

 
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A worthwhile read about the NYT findings about Trumps taxes, from JustSecurity.org. Not too complicated.


So, nothing to see here? Another NY liberal trying to tell us Trump's taxes are complicated and he may not be as rich as he claimed? THE HORROR! So much for the bombshell you were hoping for...

Serious question for you since I know you unhide the ignored posts..........Do you honestly think this changes ANY minds of ANY voters?
 

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Stolen from a college professor friend of mine...


In honor of tonight's debate, this is my attempt at a brief history of Trump Campaign Managers.

Corey Lewandowski (January 2015-March 2016)
Charged with battery during an altercation with a woman in March 2016. Charges dropped. Three days later he did it again. Admitted/boasted to Congress in 2019 that he had lied in multiple interviews: "I am under no obligation to be honest with the media."

Paul Manafort (March-August 2016 )
Arrested and convicted of multiple Federal and State felonies, including tax evasion, money laundering, lying to law enforcement, illegal lobbying for foreign governments and entitites, witness tampering, bank fraud, and conspiracy against the United States.

Steve Bannon (August-November 2016)
Indicted in August 2020 on Federal fraud and money laundering charges related to a scam in which Trump supporters were asked to donate to "Build the Wall" on the southern border.

Brad Parscale (Feb 2018-July 2020)
Left under suspicion after revelations that $39 million of campaign funds had been transferred to his two private companies for unknown services, during a time in which the campaign had taken over $200 million in unaccountable losses. Escorted from his home by police in Sept 2020 under the Baker Act, after his wife called 911 to report that he was drunk, had beaten her, and was threatening to shoot her and himself. Ten guns were confiscated from the property.

Bill Stepien (July 2020- present)
Fired by NJ governor Chris Christie during the Fort Lee bridge scandal. Investigators eventually obtained his emails, indicating an adulterous affair with a coworker and Stepien's guilt in the scandal. Subpeonaed by the NJ state legislature, Stepien argued a Fifth Amendment right not to appear or turn over any documents. He avoided prosecution.

Subtotals:
Charged with crimes (4 of 5)
Assaulting women (2 of 5)
Imprisoned (1 of 5)
Awaiting trial (2 of 5)

Caveat: this list includes only those men who officially held the title of campaign manager, not unofficial campaign directors like Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, and others with a rap sheet of one sort or another.
 

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Stolen from a college professor friend of mine...


In honor of tonight's debate, this is my attempt at a brief history of Trump Campaign Managers.

Corey Lewandowski (January 2015-March 2016)
Charged with battery during an altercation with a woman in March 2016. Charges dropped. Three days later he did it again. Admitted/boasted to Congress in 2019 that he had lied in multiple interviews: "I am under no obligation to be honest with the media."

Paul Manafort (March-August 2016 )
Arrested and convicted of multiple Federal and State felonies, including tax evasion, money laundering, lying to law enforcement, illegal lobbying for foreign governments and entitites, witness tampering, bank fraud, and conspiracy against the United States.

Steve Bannon (August-November 2016)
Indicted in August 2020 on Federal fraud and money laundering charges related to a scam in which Trump supporters were asked to donate to "Build the Wall" on the southern border.

Brad Parscale (Feb 2018-July 2020)
Left under suspicion after revelations that $39 million of campaign funds had been transferred to his two private companies for unknown services, during a time in which the campaign had taken over $200 million in unaccountable losses. Escorted from his home by police in Sept 2020 under the Baker Act, after his wife called 911 to report that he was drunk, had beaten her, and was threatening to shoot her and himself. Ten guns were confiscated from the property.

Bill Stepien (July 2020- present)
Fired by NJ governor Chris Christie during the Fort Lee bridge scandal. Investigators eventually obtained his emails, indicating an adulterous affair with a coworker and Stepien's guilt in the scandal. Subpeonaed by the NJ state legislature, Stepien argued a Fifth Amendment right not to appear or turn over any documents. He avoided prosecution.

Subtotals:
Charged with crimes (4 of 5)
Assaulting women (2 of 5)
Imprisoned (1 of 5)
Awaiting trial (2 of 5)

Caveat: this list includes only those men who officially held the title of campaign manager, not unofficial campaign directors like Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, and others with a rap sheet of one sort or another.
And yet millions and millions of people don't care and will still vote for him. HAS to say something about how much people dislike the Democrats and their extreme liberal agenda.

I'm worried about you if/when Trump gets re-elected....
 

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Anybody see Diane Chaching walking in Dulles without her mask. I'm sure she only had the climate crisis on her mind as she was about to board her private gulfstream to head back to Cali. Of course it may of just been a set up by the airport.
 

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Anybody see Diane Chaching walking in Dulles without her mask. I'm sure she only had the climate crisis on her mind as she was about to board her private gulfstream to head back to Cali. Of course it may of just been a set up by the airport.

Not smart, although I know people who own planes and fly private and they and their crew get tested before every flight (this was an area for private planes).

Do you think mask wearing should be mandatory at airports and on planes?
 

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Jesus, somebody is quoting Posobiec?!

And I bet it’s a person who insists that the New York Times, Washington post, ABC, NBC, CBS, and the rest are all fake news.

FFS.
 

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And it's pretty clear you can't refute the information. I am assuming you were a big believer that Trump was a Russian asset compromised by Putin, amirite?

I mean I could but it’s really not worth the time.

Just figured you’d want to know, I personally try to stay away from Nazis and racist myself. What ever floats your boat I guess.
 

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I mean I could but it’s really not worth the time.

Just figured you’d want to know, I personally try to stay away from Nazis and racist myself. What ever floats your boat I guess.
Lol. Not worth your time? I take that as you know it's now officially been proved to be a complete hoax and you're trying to avoid actually answering my question.

As for the SPLC, Alex Jones has more credibility than they do. Doesn't really mean much to be called racist by them. And spare me the racist/nazi crap. When everyone who's not an extreme left liberal is a racist/nazi, pretty much kills any meaning those words once had.
 
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Lol. You're going to refute what the DNI is putting out there? Please go ahead and do so. The news is all over Twitter, it's not just from the guy I posted a tweet from. I'd honestly like to hear you refute anything the DNI is saying to Graham now.

As for the SPLC, Alex Jones has more credibility than they do. Doesn't really mean much to be called racist by them. And spare me the racist/nazi crap. When everyone who's not an extreme left liberal is a racist/nazi, pretty much kills any meaning those words once had.

Yeah and I’m sure Richard Spencer is an upstanding citizen who’s just misrepresented by the MSM. Your boy promotes his events along with a variety of other racist activities. The dude is a Nazi sympathizer man.
 

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Yeah and I’m sure Richard Spencer is an upstanding citizen who’s just misrepresented by the MSM. Your boy promotes his events along with a variety of other racist activities. The dude is a Nazi sympathizer man.








Since you refuse to actually address the subject and spout off racist this nazi that nonsense that literally doesn't mean a thing to me.....here are some additional tweets from others. Feel free to call them nazi's as well. They aren't liberals after all.
 

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Since you refuse to actually address the subject and spout off racist this nazi that nonsense that literally doesn't mean a thing to me.....here are some additional tweets from others. Feel free to call them nazi's as well. They aren't liberals after all.


It’s not my fault you were promoting someone who promotes actual Nazis. It’s hard for me to take a person seriously who traffics in those circles.
 

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Another fascinating look at trumps tax documents, from a guy who knows a thing or two about economics.

 

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It’s not my fault you were promoting someone who promotes actual Nazis. It’s hard for me to take a person seriously who traffics in those circles.
But seriously, you know that calling someone a racist now or a nazi literally doesn't mean anything, right? So you say this like it's some big dig but it's basically meaningless today.
 

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It’s not my fault you were promoting someone who promotes actual Nazis. It’s hard for me to take a person seriously who traffics in those circles.
So address the declassifications from the DNI now. Or are you going to deflect even more because you know the whole thing was ********?
 

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They won’t because they don’t want to hear anything except orange man bad
Of course they won't. They bought into to it so hard. They were dead set (LOL) Trump was a Russian agent. It was hilarious to watch idiots like @TheDude1 post article after article from the NYT or WaPo. He's the most gullible one here.
 

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Wonder why none of the liberals here address these?

Let's agree that everyone here is picking and choosing what they want to address. I'm trying to objectively look at things, though.

I'll go ahead and address both the DNI stuff and the tax stuff here.

--I think I stated before I don't think there was direct collusion between Trump and the Russian government. A good point Trump made is that he has a hard enough time "colluding" with his own government, let alone somebody else's. Whether agents of Trump's campaign had meaningful, purposeful conversations with Russians, asking and receiving help, I don't know.

--It's been proven there was Russian interference in 2016. Based on conclusions reached by people who have educated opinions (Coats, Mattis, etc.), Trump's behavior toward Putin seem to reinforce the idea that Putin "had something on him (direct quote from Coats)."

--All of the quotes and tweets (unless I'm misreading) is that people were going to use Trump's Russian connections against him. Trump hurt himself by going on TV and asking Russia to send Hillary's emails to him and then say he was just joking when called on it.

--The accountant is absolutely correct about claiming depreciation and other things on real estate. For me personally, the amount of losses he claims on his property (while probably exaggerated) isn't the most concerning part of the tax story. That would be the amount of of debt. As I've stated before, over $400 million in personal debt while claiming his businesses are only $34.7 million liquid would prevent him from getting TS/SCI clearance. It would most likely keep him from getting any kind of security clearance if he were a regular government or military member.

The second concern from his taxes are the fact they basically pain him as a con man. His who appeal (other than race hustler for the angry white guy crowd) was supposed to be his high-level business acumen and that he possessed the ability to step in and run the United States government like a highly-efficient corporation. His taxes show he's a highly paid TV personality who gets compensated well for selling his name to basically anybody who wants to slap it on a product. His actual business that he runs appear to almost (Trump Tower, one office each in NY and the Bay) all either be huge failures or exist solely to allow him to milk the losses in an effort to not pay taxes on his NBC and endorsement money.

The third concern is the unethical findings in them. Paying his daughter as a consultant when he also pays her as an employee and then writes off the consulting fees seems to be illegal. I'm not a tax professional but I have read several who say it is and I've read none who say it isn't.

In addition to things like that, the fact that the vast majority of his charitable donations are either to his own organization (which was shuttered after controversy and findings if I remember well) or for things like agreeing not to build on or around certain properties. Again do what you want with your money, but it's hard to buy someone as a servant leader (which the President should be) if he's a supposed billionaire who doesn't give to any causes.

--I'm going to throw this on the end because, well, I feel like it and no better time like the present.

I think the biggest issue I personally have with Trump is how he has made the Republican party look. For one, I don't ever recall a Republican having such a large number of former Republican groups opposing him. That is pretty unusual, and they all seem to have the same message. Trump has stolen the party, taken all meaning from it and turned it into his own bully-pulpit.

Jared Kushner, who makes a lot of interesting comments about his father-in-law, made the statement that they basically came in and did the equivalent of a hostile corporate takeover of the Republican party.

Listen to the rhetoric that comes from his (and his fiercest supporters) mouth. Watch the actions that he has taken and committed. Hear the lies about **** he doesn't even have to lie about.

That's not family values, fiscal conservatism or small government. It's hatred and narcissism.

One of you guys mentioned about changing somebody mind on who to vote for earlier. I'm not trying to do that. I'm just expressing my opinions and addressing some of the things you asked about.