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The most important thing is getting these cases to the Supreme Court not to overturn the election because the Democrats have destroyed the evidence but to get rules in place so that it cannot happen in 2022 and 2024
 

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I agree with all that. I'm asking what was posted. From every news story I'm seeing, the harsh criticism came by way of a zoom meeting that was open to the public.

I just went through five pages worth if recent news searching "William Hartmann information posted," and found nothing. I'm not saying it's not out there, but I'm not finding anything.
Several news anchors saying that they don’t want violence but the address for for these people is giving even the apartment number
 

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The most important thing is getting these cases to the Supreme Court not to overturn the election because the Democrats have destroyed the evidence but to get rules in place so that it cannot happen in 2022 and 2024

So the reason there is no evidence is because it was all destroyed? Got it.

I think I asked this before, but have either you or @Mac9192 ever watched any of the hip hop illuminati YouTube videos that were prominent about 10 years ago?
 

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Several news anchors saying that they don’t want violence but the address for for these people is giving even the apartment number

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to convey. Are you saying you saw several anchors give out their information but they didn't want anyone to do anything violent?

@Mac9192 told a story about Big Tech not taking the information down. That implies there were posts on Twitter, Facebook, whatever with the folks' personal information. I have searched for a news site corroborating that but haven't found it.
 
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So the reason there is no evidence is because it was all destroyed? Got it.

I think I asked this before, but have either you or @Mac9192 ever watched any of the hip hop illuminati YouTube videos that were prominent about 10 years ago?
Never listened to Hip Hop.I am a dinosaur who thinks there has not been any good music since the eighties
 

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I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to convey. Are you saying you saw several anchors give out their information but they didn't want anyone to do anything violent?

@Mac9192 told a story about Big Tech not taking the information down. That implies there were posts on Twitter, Facebook, whatever with the folks' personal information. I have searched for a news site corroborating that but haven't found it.
There were several news anchor who on air gave out home addresses for people to go there and confront the officials,while saying they don’t want violence.oOf course this is not going to be covered by the mainstream media
 

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Never listened to Hip Hop.I am a dinosaur who thinks there has not been any good music since the eighties

They're not actually hip hop videos but these convoluted, conspiratorial videos in which people who most likely have never left their parents' basements explore and explain the success of certain hip hop artists by tying them to the Illuminati, the Free Masons and even Satan. They're entertaining as long as you realize the people who came up with them ignore logic and reason and are also completely out of their minds.
 

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There were several news anchor who on air gave out home addresses for people to go there and confront the officials,while saying they don’t want violence.oOf course this is not going to be covered by the mainstream media

OK, that's not what Mac posted. I'm not necessarily looking for mainstream media. I'll take any of the right wing blog sites the Texas AG was on. Have you actually seen the anchors doing this?
 

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OK, that's not what Mac posted. I'm not necessarily looking for mainstream media. I'll take any of the right wing blog sites the Texas AG was on. Have you actually seen the anchors doing this?
Yes actually saw them it is not hearsay
 
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What did we say when Kentucky lost in the tournament a few years ago, and they posted the refs info on social media? We called them quacks, losers, crazy...
Not one difference in what they did than what the yahoo’s did last night to the 2 republicans. You guys and gal are as crazy, quacks, losers as the UK fans were.

Y’all are too stupid to see anything for what it is, and what’s going on.

Big government is about to be back in business. BLM expects Biden to reward them. They are nothing but a terrorist group.
Don't steal my creative insult. Come up with your own.
 

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Yes actually saw them it is not hearsay

Yeah, the anchor should not have done that. I don't agree with that action. Can you tell me where you saw it?

The outrage over it, however, is as a variation of what a lot of you guys like to call virtue signaling.

1) The information is already accessible due to being a public official.

2) They were getting publicity as early as a week ago when the Detroit Free Press did a story on all four.

3) The public zoom forumnwas going to lead to them getting publicly obliterated without any help from nutcases who saw the newscast.

4) I don't recall anyone on here even discussing, let alone getting upset about, the poll workers (non public figures, by the way) who Trump supporters identified and especially the one who went into hiding once the address and phone number got publicized.
 

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I’m terrible at posting links or videos. So YouTube Dan Bongino “huge problems with the vote talley in Michigan begin to emerge.”
Also, look up video called Michigan republicans doxxed over election, by some guy called louder with crowder. I know nothing about him. I do like Bongino.
 

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I’m terrible at posting links or videos. So YouTube Dan Bongino “huge problems with the vote talley in Michigan begin to emerge.”
Also, look up video called Michigan republicans doxxed over election, by some guy called louder with crowder. I know nothing about him. I do like Bongino.

Did you even watch these two videos?

Granted, I skipped around in Bongino's video but the only thing I saw him cite was Trump's lead lawyer making claims about numbers of voters that are not supported by a single local or state election official in the state of Michigan.

The Louder with Crowder with video showed the Zoom meeting clips in which folks were blasting the two Republicans, one of which named the city (Grosse Point Park) one of the officials is from. When they cut away from the video, Crowder (I assume) sarcastically goes into the bit that Topps quoted earlier, complete with address and apartment number.

This means that either:

1) The pro-Trump YouTube host did a sarcastic bit in which he exaggerated someone on a zoom call mentionimg the city in which one of the officials lives by giving a fake address or

2) The pro-Trump YouTube host, for some insane reason, actually gave the official's home address out over the internet.

Which do you think it was?
 
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Something else I learned when reading about Wayne County, a similar discrepancy occurred in the 2016 election. Wanna take a guess what happened? The vote was certified with no fuss. time for you guys to grow up and stop griping that your guy lost. He is likely to go down as one of the worst presidents of the 20th and 21st centuries and the damage he has done to democracy will take a long time to repair, if it can be repaired at all.
 

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Did you even watch these two videos?

Granted, I skipped around in Bongino's video but the only thing I saw him cite was Trump's lead lawyer making claims about numbers of voters that are not supported by a single local or state election official in the state of Michigan.

The Louder with Crowder with video showed the Zoom meeting clips in which folks were blasting the two Republicans, one of which named the city (Grosse Point Park) one of the officials is from. When they cut away from the video, Crowder (I assume) sarcastically goes into the bit that Topps quoted earlier, complete with address and apartment number.

This means that either:

1) The pro-Trump YouTube host did a sarcastic bit in which he exaggerated someone on a zoom call mentionimg the city in which one of the officials lives by giving a fake address or

2) The pro-Trump YouTube host, for some insane reason, actually gave the official's home address out over the internet.

Which do you think it was?
Do you really not get it? Yes I watched them both. The 2 republicans in Wayne County were pressured into changing their vote. That’s the real issue. Only you and the stooges can tip toe all around, looking for every little excuse to throw out there.
I was hesitant to mention the sites. You don’t even see how deranged the upset leftists were, which one said where they live, instead you mock crowder who more than likely threw some random numbers out there. What Crowder said flew over your head. I’m not surprised at all.
Bongino was as real as you can be. He’s one of the good guys.
 

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You can see why Topp and Mac like Trump so much. They make **** up and then accuse the people who call them on it of being brainwashed. A page out of Trump's playbook.
What I have I made up.It is there to see if you look. Any time someone posts something you don’t like even if they have seen it with their own eyes.You are the liar and not capable of telling the truth
 

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Do you really not get it? Yes I watched them both. The 2 republicans in Wayne County were pressured into changing their vote. That’s the real issue. Only you and the stooges can tip toe all around, looking for every little excuse to throw out there.
I was hesitant to mention the sites. You don’t even see how deranged the upset leftists were, which one said where they live, instead you mock crowder who more than likely threw some random numbers out there. What Crowder said flew over your head. I’m not surprised at all.
Bongino was as real as you can be. He’s one of the good guys.

You linked the sites to show me how the deranged leftists attacked these public officials by putting their personal information and, as @topps coach said, their home addresses out and Big Tech didn't do anything about it. The videos didn't show any of that.

The video showed clips from a zoom meeting in which voters from Wayne County called the officials racist and one of them mentioned the city one of the officials is from. By the way, they were called racist because they were willing to accept votes from suburban districts of the county that are predominantly white but initially wanted to refuse the metro district of the county that is predominantly Black.

On the side, Donald Trump won, at the highest estimate, 12 percent of the total U.S. Black vote. The Republican officials wanted to throw out over a quarter million votes (at least 80 percent by Blacks) because they felt the fix one in and cost Trump (going by best case national average) roughly 15,000 votes. Think about that, they want to throw out over a quarter million votes in a district made up of 80 percent Blacks because they felt shenanigans went on because Trump won 5 percent (he won 4 percent of it in 2016) of a district that best cast national averages show he could have won at best 12 (by the way, the lowest exit average shows Trump at 8 percent of Black voters nationwide).

Why can't you just admit that what you initially typed (left wing lunatics posted these officials personal information on Twitter) didn't happen?
 
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What I have I made up.It is there to see if you look. Any time someone posts something you don’t like even if they have seen it with their own eyes.You are the liar and not capable of te
for everything you post, i actually go to the internet and research it. and you know what i have found? your post is never accurate. it is remarkable. you are working on an 0-fer. i am going to assume you simply are mistaken and not intentionally promoting lies but, dude! maybe take a second before you post and make sure you got it right.
 

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You linked the sites to show me how the deranged leftists attacked these public officials by putting their personal information and, as @topps coach said, their home addresses out and Big Tech didn't do anything about it. The videos didn't show any of that.

The video showed clips from a zoom meeting in which voters from Wayne County called the officials racist and one of them mentioned the city one of the officials is from. By the way, they were called racist because they were willing to accept votes from suburban districts of the county that are predominantly white but initially wanted to refuse the metro district of the county that is predominantly Black.

On the side, Donald Trump won, at the highest estimate, 12 percent of the total U.S. Black vote. The Republican officials wanted to throw out over a quarter million votes (at least 80 percent by Blacks) because they felt the fix one in and cost Trump (going by best case national average) roughly 15,000 votes. Think about that, they want to throw out over a quarter million votes in a district made up of 80 percent Blacks because they felt shenanigans went on because Trump won 5 percent (he won 4 percent of it in 2016) of a district that best cast national averages show he could have won at best 12 (by the way, the lowest exit average shows Trump at 8 percent of Black voters nationwide).

Why can't you just admit that what you initially typed (left wing lunatics posted these officials personal information on Twitter) didn't happen?
Actually, what I said was that Twitter removed negative tweets about Hunter Biden. I was under the impression that the leftists did tweet. Maybe they did and it was later removed.
But, you’re looking for any reason to criticize my opinion on the loons behavior publicly towards the republicans. That’s the bigger issue here. You and Durham go out of your way to defend your views, even when what did happen, shouldn’t have. I expect it from her, but I thought you were a little better than this.
 

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You linked the sites to show me how the deranged leftists attacked these public officials by putting their personal information and, as @topps coach said, their home addresses out and Big Tech didn't do anything about it. The videos didn't show any of that.

The video showed clips from a zoom meeting in which voters from Wayne County called the officials racist and one of them mentioned the city one of the officials is from. By the way, they were called racist because they were willing to accept votes from suburban districts of the county that are predominantly white but initially wanted to refuse the metro district of the county that is predominantly Black.

On the side, Donald Trump won, at the highest estimate, 12 percent of the total U.S. Black vote. The Republican officials wanted to throw out over a quarter million votes (at least 80 percent by Blacks) because they felt the fix one in and cost Trump (going by best case national average) roughly 15,000 votes. Think about that, they want to throw out over a quarter million votes in a district made up of 80 percent Blacks because they felt shenanigans went on because Trump won 5 percent (he won 4 percent of it in 2016) of a district that best cast national averages show he could have won at best 12 (by the way, the lowest exit average shows Trump at 8 percent of Black voters nationwide).

Why can't you just admit that what you initially typed (left wing lunatics posted these officials personal information on Twitter) didn't happen?
I think these guys have trouble understanding what facts are and what real proof is.
 

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Actually, what I said was that Twitter removed negative tweets about Hunter Biden. I was under the impression that the leftists did tweet. Maybe they did and it was later removed.
But, you’re looking for any reason to criticize my opinion on the loons behavior publicly towards the republicans. That’s the bigger issue here. You and Durham go out of your way to defend your views, even when what did happen, shouldn’t have. I expect it from her, but I thought you were a little better than this.
I don’t so much go out of my way to defend my point of view, as I fact check your claims. Like Topps, you usually don’t have your facts right. When you do and when you can cite as proof someone other than an idealog/shockjock who also had his facts wrong, then maybe you will convince me.
 
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Haha. You’re just an angry delusional woman. Your TDS is weighing your Toyota Prius down.
I don’t drive a Prius. I have an SUV. Makes it easier to get my fly gear out when I go fishing. And, while I have no interest in hunting, I am pretty awesome at shooting sporting clays. Maybe you should quit making assumptions based on nothing.
 
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Actually, what I said was that Twitter removed negative tweets about Hunter Biden. I was under the impression that the leftists did tweet. Maybe they did and it was later removed.
But, you’re looking for any reason to criticize my opinion on the loons behavior publicly towards the republicans. That’s the bigger issue here. You and Durham go out of your way to defend your views, even when what did happen, shouldn’t have. I expect it from her, but I thought you were a little better than this.

So, we've gone from the outrage of the leftist loons posting people's information on the internet (which didn't happen) to the leftist loons were out of line for calling out public officials for attemptimt to throw out over a quarter million votes, cast mostly by Black voters, while being willing to accept the predominantly white ones from the same county. Talk about pushing goalposts.

Another point, either Bongino lied or Trump's lawyer lied and he spread the lie without fact-checking. The claim that there were more votes cast in Wayne County than there were registered voters.

According to the state of Michigan's election site there were 1,406,355 registered voters in Wayne County for the 2020 election. There were 878,102 votes cast in Wanye County.

Some things are opinion. You have a lot of those.

Some things are fact. You often seem pretty short on those.
 

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I don’t drive a Prius. I have an SUV. Makes it easier to get my fly gear out when I go fishing. And, while I have no interest in hunting, I am pretty awesome at shooting sporting clays. Maybe you should quit making assumptions based on nothing.

I can't do any of that stuff! Most of my interests, outside of sport and lifting weights, probably qualify me as a typical "limp-wristed liberal," in Mac's eyes.
 
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So, we've gone from the outrage of the leftist loons posting people's information on the internet (which didn't happen) to the leftist loons were out of line for calling out public officials for attemptimt to throw out over a quarter million votes, cast mostly by Black voters, while being willing to accept the predominantly white ones from the same county. Talk about pushing goalposts.

Another point, either Bongino lied or Trump's lawyer lied and he spread the lie without fact-checking. The claim that there were more votes cast in Wayne County than there were registered voters.

According to the state of Michigan's election site there were 1,406,355 registered voters in Wayne County for the 2020 election. There were 878,102 votes cast in Wanye County.

Some things are opinion. You have a lot of those.

Some things are fact. You often seem pretty short on those.
I’m not changing my tune at all. What the loons did, that you’re being too ignorant to see, now read this part real slow so you can comprehend, is put unnecessary pressure on the republicans. Whether they announced it on Twitter, other form of social media, smoke signals...isn’t the point. You automatically say they’re white and republicans, so have to be racist. Maybe they are racist. I don’t know.

You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing them of, which is looking that it’s a majority black district so the white republicans had to be biased.
I think you’re a racist, but hide it projecting us white people as that. It’s really disgusting how you act.
 

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I can't do any of that stuff! Most of my interests, outside of sport and lifting weights, probably qualify me as a typical "limp-wristed liberal," in Mac's eyes.
I highly doubt she can either. You are a limp wristed liberal though.
 
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I’m not changing my tune at all. What the loons did, that you’re being too ignorant to see, now read this part real slow so you can comprehend, is put unnecessary pressure on the republicans. Whether they announced it on Twitter, other form of social media, smoke signals...isn’t the point. You automatically say they’re white and republicans, so have to be racist. Maybe they are racist. I don’t know.

You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing them of, which is looking that it’s a majority black district so the white republicans had to be biased.
I think you’re a racist, but hide it projecting us white people as that. It’s really disgusting how you act.

How many times do I have to speak out against the idea that all white Republicans are racist for you to believe I feel that way? I've gone out of my way to point out that white conservatives in this thread don't seem to be racist. I DO, however, think you are a bigot.

I would speculate the two Republican officials in Wayne County have racist tendencies as they would initially make a decision to throw out over a quarter million votes, over 80 percent of which came from Blacks, while choosing to certify a predominantly white block of votes, from the SAME COUNTY. There was literally no reason to make such an insane decision.

Again, they didn't put any unnecessary pressure on anyone. People attended a PUBLIC MEETING and expressed their constitutional right to free speech.

Should the individuals not have attended the meeting? Should they not have expressed their opinion?

What exactly did they do that was uncalled for?
 

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What I have I made up.It is there to see if you look. Any time someone posts something you don’t like even if they have seen it with their own eyes.You are the liar and not capable of telling the truth

To be fair, you did post a fake story yesterday about Dallas Jones being arrested and you posted a story today that was not actually what happened.

I think these were honest mistakes, but in both cases, you posted things that were untrue.
 

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I know we travel in vastly different circles, but is clay shooting something somebody would even lie about? For real, if clay shooting isn't your thing, who the hell would even think to lie about having it as a hobby?
Partly was a joke man. I am a little surprised though that she uses a shotgun.
 

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You libs still think this election is 100% legit? A third county in Georgia, plus the massive doubts in many other states, possible computer issues, I mean, not even a little level of uncertainty?
 

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You libs still think this election is 100% legit? A third county in Georgia, plus the massive doubts in many other states, possible computer issues, I mean, not even a little level of uncertainty?

None. The third and fourth counties uncovered a total of 577 votes found on memory cards that were counted but not totaled in at the state level. It appeared to move the needle none, though as Biden's lead was not affected any more after including those two as it was after the initial two sets of additional votes.

If this is voter-fraud and/or rigging the election for Joe Biden, why are they not counting so many votes for Joe Biden? And why is the blatant rigging (as you see it) occurring in a state where both the Governor (a Trump guy who was heavily endorsed by Trump) and the Secretary of State (the official who oversees election) are Republicans?
 
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How many times do I have to speak out against the idea that all white Republicans are racist for you to believe I feel that way? I've gone out of my way to point out that white conservatives in this thread don't seem to be racist. I DO, however, think you are a bigot.

I would speculate the two Republican officials in Wayne County have racist tendencies as they would initially make a decision to throw out over a quarter million votes, over 80 percent of which came from Blacks, while choosing to certify a predominantly white block of votes, from the SAME COUNTY. There was literally no reason to make such an insane decision.

Again, they didn't put any unnecessary pressure on anyone. People attended a PUBLIC MEETING and expressed their constitutional right to free speech.

Should the individuals not have attended the meeting? Should they not have expressed their opinion?

What exactly did they do that was uncalled for?
You can call me a bigot. I’m not. Do your guys views bother me? Heck yes. I have said many times I think all y’all are delusional. But, if that makes me a bigot because I strongly disagree with y’all, then that’s a hat I’ll wear.
I do think you’re a racist. You try not to be, but anytime something happens involving race, you pull the Ol race card out of your pocket. You won’t even consider that a dumpster fire city like Detroit could possibly have election issues. That itself is laughable.

What in the world does someone attending their meeting last night have to do with them expressing their opinion in the manner they did? That’s a ridiculous statement to make, and you’re letting race be the issue without looking at the whole picture. Did you even listen to what both of those idiots said?

You showed your true colors because it’s Detroit, a black dominated city, vs white republicans.
 
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None.
If this is voter-fraud and/or rigging the election for Joe Biden, why are they not counting so many votes for Joe Biden? And why is the blatant rigging (as you see it) occurring in a state where both the Governor (a Trump guy who was heavily endorsed by Trump) and the Secretary of State (the official who oversees election) are Republicans?
Did you read what you wrote? I’m not just talking about Georgia. I know he’s still down, but It’s asinine that Biden has benefited like he has, and your only reply is “well it’s still not enough in Georgia.”
 

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You can call me a bigot. I’m not. Do your guys views bother me? Heck yes. I have said many times I think all y’all are delusional. But, if that makes me a bigot because I strongly disagree with y’all, then that’s a hat I’ll wear.
I do think you’re a racist. You try not to be, but anytime something happens involving race, you pull the Ol race card out of your pocket. You won’t even consider that a dumpster fire city like Detroit could possibly have election issues. That itself is laughable.

What in the world does someone attending their meeting last night have to do with them expressing their opinion in the manner they did? That’s a ridiculous statement to make, and you’re letting race be the issue without looking at the whole picture. Did you even listen to what both of those idiots said?

You showed your true colors because it’s Detroit, a black dominated city, vs white republicans.

Are you ignoring everything around the situation in Wayne County?

I called you a bigot because of your views on minorities and their supposed inability to think for themselves. You're homophobic name-calling of Don Lemon only added to that.

I'm sorry you're such an angry person. I truly feel bad for someone who has such anger in them. If getting it out on this message board keeps you from taking it out on those around you, I'm glad we're here for you.
 
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