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Mac9192

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I'm opinionated. That is supported by the fact that I get on here and debate/argue with folks.

You're a racist. That is supported by you expressing views that reveal a racist mind.

You're ignorant. That is supported by your refusal to acknowledge anything that doesn't align with your world view, regardless of how supported by evidence it may be. That is also supported by the way you express yourself ("I'm not into these stats...").

You called me a racist because I believe Donald Trump legitimately lost the 2020 Presidential election. I, just, I don't even know how those two things align.

You are interesting though. The post I quoted, like a lot of yours, go all over the place. In your first paragraph, you call me a loser. In the next sentence, you assume I don't have a boss to whom I report and that others in the workplace have no choice but to believe everything I say. Based on how you view my professional life, it's hard to see how you consider myself a loser. If anything, you assume me to be a pretty successful individual.
Success isn’t defined by what you do for a living. You’re a loser with your political views. Your education doesn’t show, your lack of intelligence does.

I’m going to start calling you Rev Jtre. The other Reverend’s play it for financial gain. You play it to change the topic when you know there's nothing you can come back with, or to divert from the issue. Usually, those that scream the most about something like this are projecting. Which is exactly what you have done here multiple times with the tired race card.
 
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GhostOf301

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she said "No Spike".....without a doubt some people passed and caught Covid-19....to me masks aren't 100%, but they are a simple precautionary measure that helps....I'm sick of it too, but hopefully over soon...I hope
Yeah, she said no spike. I also said that cities with mask mandates had spikes. This post, I used a different word. Her argument still lacks logic. Masks work because there wasn't a spike during the BLM protests. Okay, what about where people are wearing masks but there still are spikes? Oh, well that's because restrictions were eased. You see how ridiculous that argument is, right?

And just so we all are aware, the late Spring/early Summer surge directly coincided with the massive protests across the country. Sure it was just coincidental, though.

To your point that masks are not 100% but they are a measure of precaution. That is great. If that was how it was advertised or explained to us. But it's not. It is used as a divisive tool. I mean, they claim that wearing masks will save 150,000 - 200,000 lives. Some Jack wagon with the CDC said that masks are more effective than a potential vaccine. You have people calling for a national mandate on masks as if they are a cure and not a precaution. It's ridiculous. And I am sorry, I fully believe that masks are being pushed on us as a form of governmental control in an effort to divide our society further.

And so you know, I wear the stupid things when I go into essential businesses, it's not like I am refusing to do that. It's not worth the time or energy to deal with the mask nazis. I just don't fall for the propaganda.
 
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Yeah, she said no spike. I also said that cities with mask mandates had spikes. This post, I used a different word. Her argument still lacks logic. Masks work because there wasn't a spike during the BLM protests. Okay, what about where people are wearing masks but there still are spikes? Oh, well that's because restrictions were eased. You see how ridiculous that argument is, right?

And just so we all are aware, the late Spring/early Summer surge directly coincided with the massive protests across the country. Sure it was just coincidental, though.

To your point that masks are not 100% but they are a measure of precaution. That is great. If that was how it was advertised or explained to us. But it's not. It is used as a divisive tool. I mean, they claim that wearing masks will save 150,000 - 200,000 lives. Some Jack wagon with the CDC said that masks are more effective than a potential vaccine. You have people calling for a national mandate on masks as if they are a cure and not a precaution. It's ridiculous. And I am sorry, I fully believe that masks are being pushed on us as a form of governmental control in an effort to divide our society further.

And so you know, I wear the stupid things when I go into essential businesses, it's not like I am refusing to do that. It's not worth the time or energy to deal with the mask nazis. I just don't fall for the propaganda.
First of all, the masks protect other people from the wearer. The issue was that people who had no symptoms were soreading the disease. They do protect the wearer but if they don’t fit snugly they are less efficacious. Second, no one jas suggested that masks by themselves are enough. It has to be paired with social distancing and good hygiene. I am not sure what about my argument is hard to follow. Masks were helping flatten the curve. Then in places like Miami-Dade, the mandate was lifted and everyone flocked to the beaches and bars without masks and the infection rate started to go up. As far as the masks being used to divide us, it is sad that you think that. Masks as a country make us safer and require very little from us so I am glad to hear you wear yours.
 

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Yeah, she said no spike. I also said that cities with mask mandates had spikes. This post, I used a different word. Her argument still lacks logic. Masks work because there wasn't a spike during the BLM protests. Okay, what about where people are wearing masks but there still are spikes? Oh, well that's because restrictions were eased. You see how ridiculous that argument is, right?

And just so we all are aware, the late Spring/early Summer surge directly coincided with the massive protests across the country. Sure it was just coincidental, though.

To your point that masks are not 100% but they are a measure of precaution. That is great. If that was how it was advertised or explained to us. But it's not. It is used as a divisive tool. I mean, they claim that wearing masks will save 150,000 - 200,000 lives. Some Jack wagon with the CDC said that masks are more effective than a potential vaccine. You have people calling for a national mandate on masks as if they are a cure and not a precaution. It's ridiculous. And I am sorry, I fully believe that masks are being pushed on us as a form of governmental control in an effort to divide our society further.

And so you know, I wear the stupid things when I go into essential businesses, it's not like I am refusing to do that. It's not worth the time or energy to deal with the mask nazis. I just don't fall for the propaganda.

agree w/ a lot, but just because there is a mask mandate, everyones steps and gatherings w/o masks can have influence and everyone still isnt complying..some are still not socially distancing, still have gathering at their homes (non family), i could be an anti mask guy, wear it to wal-mart, but go to the hangout with my buds and dont wear a mask....i have always interpreted the mask as preventive and not a cure/100% effective, more so a barrier to help slow transmission....curiosity, how is dividing us?...either you do or you dont, have issue or you dont....it has def been politicized as dems do and pubs dont, is that what you are referring...terrible that it has come to that as opposed to, i am wearing this mess to lessen the possibility of spread to others from me, if im infected and dont know
 
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GhostOf301

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First of all, the masks protect other people from the wearer. The issue was that people who had no symptoms were soreading the disease. They do protect the wearer but if they don’t fit snugly they are less efficacious. Second, no one jas suggested that masks by themselves are enough. It has to be paired with social distancing and good hygiene. I am not sure what about my argument is hard to follow. Masks were helping flatten the curve. Then in places like Miami-Dade, the mandate was lifted and everyone flocked to the beaches and bars without masks and the infection rate started to go up. As far as the masks being used to divide us, it is sad that you think that. Masks as a country make us safer and require very little from us so I am glad to hear you wear yours.
I am of the belief that masks don't protect anyone. I thought that was clear. I am aware of the theory that they protect other people from you, not you from other people. It is a stupid theory as the vast majority of people are wearing masks and the virus is spreading faster than ever. This is what is so frustrating about the mask debate. There is clear and overwhelming proof that masks are nothing more than an image to protect feelings. Miami-Dade did not lift the mask mandate. Btw. And masks were in no way helping to flatten the curve. There is zero science to support that. In fact. As I have said over and over, many places have seen their biggest spikes well after having implemented mask mandates. It is bizarre how people can't see this.

If anything, the false sense of security that masks gives you people is making us less safe. Not more safe as you suggest.
 

GhostOf301

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agree w/ a lot, but just because there is a mask mandate, everyones steps and gatherings w/o masks can have influence and everyone still isnt complying..some are still not socially distancing, still have gathering at their homes (non family), i could be an anti mask guy, wear it to wal-mart, but go to the hangout with my buds and dont wear a mask....i have always interpreted the mask as preventive and not a cure/100% effective, more so a barrier to help slow transmission....curiosity, how is dividing us?...either you do or you dont, have issue or you dont....it has def been politicized as dems do and pubs dont, is that what you are referring...terrible that it has come to that as opposed to, i am wearing this mess to lessen the possibility of spread to others from me, if im infected and dont know
My biggest reason for calling people idiots for demanding a national mask mandate is because there already is one in almost every state. And in the states that don't have a statewide mandate, most counties do, so why would more people comply just because it is a national mandate? This is one of the examples you are asking for as to how it is dividing us. Biden played it for political purposes to suggest Trump was being irresponsible by not having a national mandate. Many people politically and in the media harped on Trump for not wearing masks when it wasn't necessary for him to just because they wanted him to give us the image of him wearing a mask so all of his sheeple would go along with it. Another example would be where we are told to listen to science. But science, for decades has not shown cloth masks to be effective against similar viruses and to this day there is zero scientific evidence that shows their effectiveness against the coronavirus. It is nothing but anecdotal evidence and the anecdotal evidence against it is far more convincing. So we are divided on which experts to listen to and that causes arguments.

IMO. Social distancing, avoiding large gatherings, hygiene and keeping a close circle should be what is encouraged and wear a mask if it makes you feel comfortable knowing that they are not a reliable protection from the virus. Leave businesses open and allow people to take the risks they are willing to take. Only in 2020 is it our responsibility to keep other people from getting sick.
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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My biggest reason for calling people idiots for demanding a national mask mandate is because there already is one in almost every state. And in the states that don't have a statewide mandate, most counties do, so why would more people comply just because it is a national mandate? This is one of the examples you are asking for as to how it is dividing us. Biden played it for political purposes to suggest Trump was being irresponsible by not having a national mandate. Many people politically and in the media harped on Trump for not wearing masks when it wasn't necessary for him to just because they wanted him to give us the image of him wearing a mask so all of his sheeple would go along with it. Another example would be where we are told to listen to science. But science, for decades has not shown cloth masks to be effective against similar viruses and to this day there is zero scientific evidence that shows their effectiveness against the coronavirus. It is nothing but anecdotal evidence and the anecdotal evidence against it is far more convincing. So we are divided on which experts to listen to and that causes arguments.

IMO. Social distancing, avoiding large gatherings, hygiene and keeping a close circle should be what is encouraged and wear a mask if it makes you feel comfortable knowing that they are not a reliable protection from the virus. Leave businesses open and allow people to take the risks they are willing to take. Only in 2020 is it our responsibility to keep other people from getting sick.

i feel ya......is it possible that allowing people to take that risk they are willing to take from the leaving businesses open ( i am thinking bars and clubs and such, establishments that basically encourage social behavior) and allowing normalcy...couldn't that be problematic to our overcrowding hospitals and the exposure of all those working within?....its tough all the way around...this is some mess
 

Mac9192

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You won't find many doctors, or medical experts, that say anything negative about the masks or the virus. It's because they get censored. I know, I know, here I go again. But it's true. This virus is real, but the fear that's been spread to us by our media, or their medical puppets, is much bigger.

Walk this way down this aisle, walk that way down the next. Don't gather in big groups. This whole mess going on is un American.
 

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Ghostof301, I agree with you 100%.

Avoid crowds or even small groups, if possible. WEAR THE MASK IN PUBLIC and with people you don't know. well. Keep your distance. Wash your hands frequently, and longer than normal, especially when you have been out in public.

If you take precautions, it is possible to avoid getting the disease.

If you don't mask up, and attend gatherings and parties, don't be surprised if you end up in the ICU.

We are now breaking records in NC every day for infections, hospitalizations and deaths.

Nationwide, we lost over 3000 people to the virus yesterday. That's more than was killed in the Twin Towers attack on NINE ELEVEN.

We have lost more people to the virus in 9 months than we lost soldiers in WWII.

Not taking precautions borders on suicidal behavior.
 
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You won't find many doctors, or medical experts, that say anything negative about the masks or the virus. It's because they get censored. I know, I know, here I go again. But it's true. This virus is real, but the fear that's been spread to us by our media, or their medical puppets, is much bigger.

Walk this way down this aisle, walk that way down the next. Don't gather in big groups. This whole mess going on is un American.
Trump had a whole bunch of wing nuts spouting their beliefs about the fact that the virus was not that big a deal and that masks were not needed. . In fact, given his views, he would encourage others to come forward. After all, even after getting sick, he refused to wear a mask. The reason. there aren’t “many” is because most of the docs belief that Fauci has it right.
 

Mac9192

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Trump had a whole bunch of wing nuts spouting their beliefs about the fact that the virus was not that big a deal and that masks were not needed. . In fact, given his views, he would encourage others to come forward. After all, even after getting sick, he refused to wear a mask. The reason. there aren’t “many” is because most of the docs belief that Fauci has it right.
The same Fauci that said masks do nothing but make you feel better about yourself, or the Dr Fauci that finally said what we've known since summertime that kids were safe and not spreaders, or the Dr Fauci that, right after we were all told to wear them, was seen at major league baseball game with no mask over his face with several friends beside him?

Fauci is a weasel. You and him have something in common. You both move the goalposts about covid to whatever is better for you at the present time.
 

durhamgolfer

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The same Fauci that said masks do nothing but make you feel better about yourself, or the Dr Fauci that finally said what we've known since summertime that kids were safe and not spreaders, or the Dr Fauci that, right after we were all told to wear them, was seen at major league baseball game with no mask over his face with several friends beside him?

Fauci is a weasel. You and him have something in common. You both move the goalposts about covid to whatever is better for you at the present time.
You mean the doctor who was sitting at a game with his wife and a friend, who had just had a negative covid test and who lowered the mask while he drank water? that guy?
And, talk about moving the goal posts. I merely pointed out that trump would not have been shutting up doctors who advocated against masks and that fit with his agenda.
I guess you can't stand when people disagree with you. Just like you asked Jtre, do you have a job where you have bosses because lashing out like this at work is a sure-fire ticket to the unemployment line.
 

Mac9192

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You mean the doctor who was sitting at a game with his wife and a friend, who had just had a negative covid test and who lowered the mask while he drank water? that guy?
And, talk about moving the goal posts. I merely pointed out that trump would not have been shutting up doctors who advocated against masks and that fit with his agenda.
I guess you can't stand when people disagree with you. Just like you asked Jtre, do you have a job where you have bosses because lashing out like this at work is a sure-fire ticket to the unemployment line.
You mean he wasn’t wearing his mask since he just had a negative test? You were at that game? You crafty Drunken Queen you. It’s hard to slip one past you.

I was tested last week, and was negative, so that means I didn’t have to wear mine either? Thanks.

Speaking of @Jtre, where is The Reverend?
 

Mac9192

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What do you guys think about the truck driver that reported delivering over 200,000 ballots from New York to Pennsylvania?

Any thoughts?
 

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He was on Hannity today and says he has more evidence that he can’t share, but says it is good. Maybe it was investigated by somebody.
 

Mac9192

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Thoughts on whistleblower in Michigan that has been harassed after coming forward, and said others were scared to come forward?
 

Mac9192

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What about the immigrant lady in Michigan? A poll challenger, she was at first mistaken for a democrat, then witnessed manual ballots from Wayne County being manually loaded. Said they were all in order, and also very disappointed in how Republicans were treated. She said she always thought America’s voting had integrity until this election.

Thoughts, or nothing to see?
 

GhostOf301

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What about the immigrant lady in Michigan? A poll challenger, she was at first mistaken for a democrat, then witnessed manual ballots from Wayne County being manually loaded. Said they were all in order, and also very disappointed in how Republicans were treated. She said she always thought America’s voting had integrity until this election.

Thoughts, or nothing to see?
Jeez mac. Get off of OANN and Newsmax for just one second. Let us know when a reliable left leaning source reports these allegations. That's when we'll know they have merit.
 
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topps coach

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What about the immigrant lady in Michigan? A poll challenger, she was at first mistaken for a democrat, then witnessed manual ballots from Wayne County being manually loaded. Said they were all in order, and also very disappointed in how Republicans were treated. She said she always thought America’s voting had integrity until this election.

Thoughts, or nothing to see?
Waiting for a response telling us that all the people who are willing to lie under oath are just tin foil conspiracy nuts
 
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Mac9192

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Any truth to the rumor in Nevada about 40,000 votes being counted twice?

I mean @GhostOf301 has done revealed my sources, so please guys, and gals, is this legit, or am I making **** up?
 

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What is there to respond to? Some far-right websites report misinformation and I am suppose to take it seriously? For the record, I get the majority of my news from The Hill, they tend to lean in neither direction. Where is the kraken Sydney Powell promised? Everyone loved Barr, now that he's saying nothing has been found yet in their investigations and he's being treated as an enemy combatant now. People are resigning or being fired left and right within the administration. Trump and leaky Rudy have made fraudulent claim after claim with nothing to back it up. What is happening in Georgia is some disheartening **** too. Powell is damaging the GOP's chances of retaining Senate control because of faux claims of fraud. Their behavior is causing irreparable harm to the Senate runoff there next month and to future elections. Not that it would hurt my feelings to see the Republicans lose control and Mitch lose his majority seat. Because, **** Mitch McConnell. I despise him more than any politician out there, possibly ever.

And what's the point of trying to convince any of you otherwise? Hell, Trump could come out, say it was all a ruse to get out of campaign debt, (;)) and I would bet the majority of his supporters still scream fraud to the high heavens. The damage has been done to the integrity of our electoral system because of this fuckhead, his cronies, and their lies. All the talk about losers from Trump is quite ironic now. He is the worst damn loser I have seen in my entire ******* life. I've coached rec league basketball and my pre-teen kids handled losing better than a 74 year old man who is suppose to be the leader of the free world. It's pathetic, sad, and embarrassing.
 

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topps coach

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What is there to respond to? Some far-right websites report misinformation and I am suppose to take it seriously? For the record, I get the majority of my news from The Hill, they tend to lean in neither direction. Where is the kraken Sydney Powell promised? Everyone loved Barr, now that he's saying nothing has been found yet in their investigations and he's being treated as an enemy combatant now. People are resigning or being fired left and right within the administration. Trump and leaky Rudy have made fraudulent claim after claim with nothing to back it up. What is happening in Georgia is some disheartening **** too. Powell is damaging the GOP's chances of retaining Senate control because of faux claims of fraud. Their behavior is causing irreparable harm to the Senate runoff there next month and to future elections. Not that it would hurt my feelings to see the Republicans lose control and Mitch lose his majority seat. Because, **** Mitch McConnell. I despise him more than any politician out there, possibly ever.

And what's the point of trying to convince any of you otherwise? Hell, Trump could come out, say it was all a ruse to get out of campaign debt, (;)) and I would bet the majority of his supporters still scream fraud to the high heavens. The damage has been done to the integrity of our electoral system because of this ****head, his cronies, and their lies. All the talk about losers from Trump is quite ironic now. He is the worst damn loser I have seen in my entire ****ing life. I've coached rec league basketball and my pre-teen kids handled losing better than a 74 year old man who is suppose to be the leader of the free world. It's pathetic, sad, and embarrassing.
As I said if anyone says anything about the leftist looney ideology it cannot be true but anything that a senile corrupt career politician says is gospel
 

Mac9192

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Wonder if the resident limp wrists heard what Rumbling, Mumbling, now Hobbling, Sleepy Joe Biden said about Covid between now and the end of the year? 250,000 more dead.

Could he have possibly directed any of his sermon to the many democrats that violated the very orders they put in place for their citizens?
 

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Waiting for a response telling us that all the people who are willing to lie under oath are just tin foil conspiracy nuts

Do you go out of your way to be wrong when you post?

This is the Michigan Attorney General talking about, among others, the truck driver and immigrant who were referenced in earlier posts:



This is the Fox News article where I initially found her statement about none of the people who "testified," being under oath. Fox News, nor anyone else, refuted the statement that none of the "witnesses" "testified," under oath.

 

Mac9192

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Giuliani did present some things today. Very powerful too. The evidence keeps coming out, and it’s getting more obvious.

What do you guys think of the video in Georgia? You know, the one showing the help being asked to leave, and as soon as it was just the democrats, they pulled suitcases out to so they could run them through.

Or is it another Trump conspiracy in an otherwise honest election? Or am I racist for suggesting that Fulton County is a dumpster fire?
 

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Do you go out of your way to be wrong when you post?

This is the Michigan Attorney General talking about, among others, the truck driver and immigrant who were referenced in earlier posts:



This is the Fox News article where I initially found her statement about none of the people who "testified," being under oath. Fox News, nor anyone else, refuted the statement that none of the "witnesses" "testified," under oath.


Hey smart *** there are sworn affidavits under threats of perjury being presented in courts throughout the country.Your narrative is that all these people are lying.You are the epitome of you cannot fix stupid.I guess your next move is to start calling me a racist as your standard go to if someone disagrees with you
 

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Mac9192

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You guys don't have an opinion on Georgia? Quite the interesting video showing republicans being asked to leave, and then the dems grabbing the suitcases.

Dems: We're behind by how many?!!? Crap, ok. Don't tell the republicans, but let's say we need to go home and start back tomorrow. Republicans do as told and leave. The dems then hang around, make sure the coast is clear, and fetch the emergency, we are way behind, use if we need them, ballots.

The best part is your media sources won't show it. Each state that was behind, caught back up in their own way.
Thoughts???
 

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I got a question. Why is it taking so long for emergency use of the drugs that fight off the virus? If it’s life or death, I’m pretty sure people would consent to take the stuff! If you’re going to die without taking it, wth is the risk!?!🤦‍♂️
 

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Hey smart *** there are sworn affidavits under threats of perjury being presented in courts throughout the country.Your narrative is that all these people are lying.You are the epitome of you cannot fix stupid.I guess your next move is to start calling me a racist as your standard go to if someone disagrees with you

I'm not going to call you racist because, to my knowledge, you haven't shown yourself to be racist. I called Mac racist because of the thoughts he expressed about minorities being unable to think for themselves.

If I correctly recall, you mentioned playing football in college. I've seen you reference your players, which who'd lead me to believe you coach football. I'm going to guess you disagree with that statement because in your walks through life you have known plenty of minorities who can think for themselves without white people leading them. Am I correct?

Anyway, to the sworn affidavits. I know it's doubtful you read the link so I highlighted a part that thoroughly explains the lack of danger in lying in a sworn affidavit:

“There is a remote chance that sworn statements (if they are actually sworn statements — most documents that appear to be ‘sworn’ don’t count within the meaning of the statute) could subject the declarant to some exposure under the perjury statutes,” said Lisa Kern Griffin, an expert on evidence at Duke University, in an email. “But perjury prosecutions are rare and almost never arise from statements outside of the context of proceedings in which oaths are formally administered — such as depositions, congressional testimony, grand jury proceedings, or trial testimony.”
A key issue is whether the affidavit is filed in court, as most filed by the Trump team haven’t been. Beyond that, any false statements would need to be deemed to be “material” to the proceedings — i.e. relevant to the actual claims. And from there, any legal jeopardy would require that the statements made were knowingly false."
 

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I'm not going to call you racist because, to my knowledge, you haven't shown yourself to be racist. I called Mac racist because of the thoughts he expressed about minorities being unable to think for themselves.

If I correctly recall, you mentioned playing football in college. I've seen you reference your players, which who'd lead me to believe you coach football. I'm going to guess you disagree with that statement because in your walks through life you have known plenty of minorities who can think for themselves without white people leading them. Am I correct?

Anyway, to the sworn affidavits. I know it's doubtful you read the link so I highlighted a part that thoroughly explains the lack of danger in lying in a sworn affidavit:

“There is a remote chance that sworn statements (if they are actually sworn statements — most documents that appear to be ‘sworn’ don’t count within the meaning of the statute) could subject the declarant to some exposure under the perjury statutes,” said Lisa Kern Griffin, an expert on evidence at Duke University, in an email. “But perjury prosecutions are rare and almost never arise from statements outside of the context of proceedings in which oaths are formally administered — such as depositions, congressional testimony, grand jury proceedings, or trial testimony.”
A key issue is whether the affidavit is filed in court, as most filed by the Trump team haven’t been. Beyond that, any false statements would need to be deemed to be “material” to the proceedings — i.e. relevant to the actual claims. And from there, any legal jeopardy would require that the statements made were knowingly false."
Right Football in college.Grew up in government housing where I was the minority .Coached Football and Basketball so yes I have been around Black people all of my life and see them as human beings with the same rather than as a monolithic group.I-have known extremely smart, extremely stupid,and averagely intelligent black people.There are good kind blacks as well as racist blacks in other words they share the same traits as every other human race.This is my clumsy way is that I try to take everyone as an individual.You on the other hand I consider a racist because you approach everything in life as you are constantly being discriminated against.
 
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You guys don't have an opinion on Georgia? Quite the interesting video showing republicans being asked to leave, and then the dems grabbing the suitcases.

Dems: We're behind by how many?!!? Crap, ok. Don't tell the republicans, but let's say we need to go home and start back tomorrow. Republicans do as told and leave. The dems then hang around, make sure the coast is clear, and fetch the emergency, we are way behind, use if we need them, ballots.

The best part is your media sources won't show it. Each state that was behind, caught back up in their own way.
Thoughts???

You got all that from the 52 second Twitter video posted earlier in this thread? I looked at the person's twitter page who posted it and she has a post about the need to investigate California for fraud because she knows the Democrats are terribly worried about losing its 55 electoral votes.

I saw some "testimony" from Michigan's proceedings. The blonde woman speaking about "hundreds of thousands of ballots," appeared to be drunk. If she wasn't, it's obvious why she would not make a credible witness.

I also got to see the immigrant voter you referenced yesterday and, well, that was shocking. She expressed her shock that photo IDs are not required and among the reasons are that, to her, "all Chinese people look alike." She then said states need to require photo ID checks because, "some chow could come up there to vote and it could be anybody."

Aside from her illogical stance, the fact that Rudy actually bought somebody forward to to "testify" who actually used a slur when describing the Chinese really sums up the clown show that is being run by the campaign.

But hey, it's all good. After 30 days, Trump has raised $207 million, most of which is going to his leadership PAC. Keep this up through January 20 and he might be able to pay off all the debt he has coming due.
 
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Right Football in college.Grew up in government housing where I was the minority .Coached Football and Basketball so yes I have been around Black people all of my life and see them as human beings with the same rather than as a monolithic group.I-have known extremely smart, extremely stupid,and averagely intelligent black people.There are good kind blacks as well as racist blacks in other words they share the same traits as every other human race.This is my clumsy way is that I try to take everyone as an individual.You on the other hand I consider a racist because you approach everything in life as you are constantly being discriminated against.

Thank you for sharing. So based on your statement, you would agree the thoughts he expressed were racist? Just because you voted for the same guy he did doesn't mean you need to have his back on those kind of thoughts.

You called me a racist because I approach life as if I am constantly being discriminated against. I have seen discrimination but can you point to an example where I have said or even implied anything about my "constantly being discriminated against?"
 
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You got all that from the 52 second Twitter video posted earlier in this thread? I looked at the person's twitter page who posted it and she has a post about the need to investigate California for fraud because she knows the Democrats are terribly worried about losing its 55 electoral votes.

I saw some "testimony" from Michigan's proceedings. The blonde woman speaking about "hundreds of thousands of ballots," appeared to be drunk. If she wasn't, it's obvious why she would not make a credible witness.

I also got to see the immigrant voter you referenced yesterday and, well, that was shocking. She expressed her shock that photo IDs are not required and among the reasons are that, to her, "all Chinese people look alike." She then said states need to require photo ID checks because, "some chow could come up there to vote and it could be anybody."

Aside from her illogical stance, the fact that Rudy actually bought somebody forward to to "testify" who actually used a slur when describing the Chinese really sums up the clown show that is being run by the campaign.

But hey, it's all good. After 30 days, Trump has raised $207 million, most of which is going to his leadership PAC. Keep this up through January 20 and he might be able to pay off all the debt he has coming due.
Rev, Rev, Rev. You are so delusional. The blonde woman appeared to be drunk??? What an idiotic comment. You watched something I didn't. She was emotional. Can you blame her? No, you don't. This is when your racism comes in. But, you act like a Reverend and shout racism all the time at others. It's taboo for whites to do it. Any white person that says they were bullied, harassed, or whatever, has to be lying. Because only blacks have those things done to them.

You did give the immigrant a little credit. Had she been white, you would have dismissed her story. What a pathetic guy you really are.
 

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Rev, Rev, Rev. You are so delusional. The blonde woman appeared to be drunk??? What an idiotic comment. You watched something I didn't. She was emotional. Can you blame her? No, you don't. This is when your racism comes in. But, you act like a Reverend and shout racism all the time at others. It's taboo for whites to do it. Any white person that says they were bullied, harassed, or whatever, has to be lying. Because only blacks have those things done to them.

You did give the immigrant a little credit. Had she been white, you would have dismissed her story. What a pathetic guy you really are.

I thought you don't like emotions. You know facts, not feelings and all that.

I've never said whites can't be bullied. Where have I said anything remotely close to that? You should focus more on what I actually type than what you think I would type in a certain situation.

Did you donate to Trump's go fund me?
 
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Mac had never said anything racist imo.He believes there is no systemic racism in this country.Of there is a small minority of racists in America but that minority had people of both races in it.He believes as do I that every person regardless of race ,creed or religion has the opportunity to succeed.If this was 1960 I would agree with your opinions.Since then the playing field has been leveled by laws and attitudes .Believe you have mentioned that you have a graduate degree so how could a systemically racist society allow that.How could a black manbe elected President twice.How can a racist state have elected a black man to the Senate.You on the other applaud a group like BLM whose leaders say they are trained Marxists dedicated to the destruction of our country.