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durhamgolfer

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@durhamgolfer, ********. Antifa didn’t just magically pop up. They are secretly funded. The truck that comes up and they get stuff from the back, pallets of bricks laying there for them.... Anyone who is rational admits it. The reason the left didn’t truly condone their actions is someone bigger than them is doing the funding.
Just because something sounds crazy, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
Now I understand why you are not troubled by Trump's antisemitism. You really think there are rich Jews, mainly George Soros, funding all these devious ways for the Jews to take over the country.
 

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Topps, cut it out. We won’t have you bringing up stuff like this, even if you are right.
Free health care to undocumented immigrants will likely drive the cost of health care down. Right now, illegals won't go to hospitals or seek medical care because they can't afford it. So they wait to get treatment until the situation is critical. Then, they end up in ERs where their treatment is really costly. And, as they have no health insurance, they won't end up paying. That cost gets passed on to us, the taxpayers. If they can get treatment earlier, the cost is much cheaper. Having health insurance could address that. Not to mention, I don't want our country turning into a place like India, where poor people are basically left to rot rather than getting treatment.
I know several of you have expressed your belief that abortion is murder. Fine. I disagree but I understand that position. If you are going to be a good Christian, then doesn't that extend to helping the poor, a state in which most undocumented immigrants find themselves?
 

Mac9192

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At what cost? The people that wind up eating this are the “middle class.” The problem is in DC, and not the guy that’s been there for almost 4 years. It’s this swamp of useless, overpaid, get nothing done, politicians. They make good money, and have excellent insurance.
Why don’t we have the same insurance as the people we elected? Their insurance doesn’t get jacked up. Mine does.

Quit playing politics for once, and point the finger where it belongs, not at us. You aren’t the problem either, but your views are.
 

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We have finally hit a subject where the liberals here actually make good points. There is no good answer. Cheap labor means cheaper costs at stores.
The issue not being talked about is the immigrants are glad to be here. That’s what is lost on many.
Immigrants are glad to be because as bad as they are doing, it soooo much better where they came from
 
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At what cost? The people that wind up eating this are the “middle class.” The problem is in DC, and not the guy that’s been there for almost 4 years. It’s this swamp of useless, overpaid, get nothing done, politicians. They make good money, and have excellent insurance.
Why don’t we have the same insurance as the people we elected? Their insurance doesn’t get jacked up. Mine does.

Quit playing politics for once, and point the finger where it belongs, not at us. You aren’t the problem either, but your views are.
We should all have their type of Healthcare
 
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topps coach

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Now I understand why you are not troubled by Trump's antisemitism. You really think there are rich Jews, mainly George Soros, funding all these devious ways for the Jews to take over the country.
Where did he mention Jews?You try to virtue shame people about being racist in every instance.Sad for someone to be so insecure about their beliefs
 

Mac9192

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Where did he mention Jews?You try to virtue shame people about being racist in every instance.Sad for someone to be so insecure about their beliefs
That’s what they do Topps. If you are critical about someone, they bring race into it. You’ve seen @Jtre do it as well. Our dislike for Soros has nothing to do with him being a Jew. It’s that he’s an evil person.
It’s an old trick used by many on the left.

When you can’t when on issue, divert and smear.
 

durhamgolfer

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Where did he mention Jews?You try to virtue shame people about being racist in every instance.Sad for someone to be so insecure about their beliefs
The idea of a someone secretly funding a protest group is a clear dog whistle to the white supremacists. Or to put it another way, it is code for dangerous Jews trying to take over our government. I suppose it speaks highly of you that you don't hear that whistle but it is also dangerously naive to fail to recognize what this is all about.

Oh, I am supremely secure in my faith and quite frankly, I don't see how calling out antisemitism makes me insecure. Rather than insulting me, how about standing tall and condemning the bigots.
 

Mac9192

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The idea of a someone secretly funding a protest group is a clear dog whistle to the white supremacists. Or to put it another way, it is code for dangerous Jews trying to take over our government. I suppose it speaks highly of you that you don't hear that whistle but it is also dangerously naive to fail to recognize what this is all about.

Oh, I am supremely secure in my faith and quite frankly, I don't see how calling out antisemitism makes me insecure. Rather than insulting me, how about standing tall and condemning the bigots.
We have been condemning the bigots. Have been for a long time. You're exactly right, BLM and Antifa are the worst possible groups out there. It's about time you get off your soap box and do the same.
 

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Poll came out that 14 percent of Biden voters would not have voted for him if the main stream media had not suppressed the Biden overseas business dealings.Just another conspiracy theory
 

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The idea of a someone secretly funding a protest group is a clear dog whistle to the white supremacists. Or to put it another way, it is code for dangerous Jews trying to take over our government. I suppose it speaks highly of you that you don't hear that whistle but it is also dangerously naive to fail to recognize what this is all about.

Oh, I am supremely secure in my faith and quite frankly, I don't see how calling out antisemitism makes me insecure. Rather than insulting me, how about standing tall and condemning the bigots.
You are so caught up in victim hood that you manufacture it in every situation.I did not even know Soros was Jewish until you brought it up.I despise him because he has he has spent millions on on left wing prosecutor’s who refuse to prosecute criminals.Everything he proposes leads to the detriment of our country.If that makes me anti Semitic so be it
 

Mac9192

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If you don’t find what’s going on in our country, you’re a lost soul. Not just with Covid, the censorship that’s going on, how this election has been, the riots/looting leading up to the election, the way the stimulus was handled by democrats, the way Biden’s scandal was kept away from us...

The driving force, The Media. They are just puppets though. CNN was recently exposed for intentionally not reporting fairly on Trump. Something is really, really wrong with our country, and a lot of evil people need to be prosecuted.

Because I disagree with MSM, I’m labeled as a conspiracy theorist. It will only get worse once Biden, an old man with serious cognitive issues, gets sworn in.
 

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If you don’t find what’s going on in our country, you’re a lost soul. Not just with Covid, the censorship that’s going on, how this election has been, the riots/looting leading up to the election, the way the stimulus was handled by democrats, the way Biden’s scandal was kept away from us...

The driving force, The Media. They are just puppets though. CNN was recently exposed for intentionally not reporting fairly on Trump. Something is really, really wrong with our country, and a lot of evil people need to be prosecuted.

Because I disagree with MSM, I’m labeled as a conspiracy theorist. It will only get worse once Biden, an old man with serious cognitive issues, gets sworn in.

please what riots and looting leading up to the election?...other than immediately after the George Floyd situation, where was this sustained chaos happening at?
 

durhamgolfer

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Have you read Mac's posts?
And, no one likes being called stupid but as this is a message board where we are no more than user names, I am not upset about it. I just think it doesn't move the discussion. I mean you can tell me I am stupid and I can tell you you are ugly but that doesn't explain why we don't like each others posts. That was why I suggested you hold the insults and tell me what you thought was wrong.
 

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And, no one likes being called stupid but as this is a message board where we are no more than user names, I am not upset about it. I just think it doesn't move the discussion. I mean you can tell me I am stupid and I can tell you you are ugly but that doesn't explain why we don't like each others posts. That was why I suggested you hold the insults and tell me what you thought was wrong.
But continuously posting one sided examples of acts of violence or threats of violence as if it doesn't exist on the other does move the discussion? I can post videos of Trump supporters being assaulted all day. I could post videos of left wing nut jobs harassing elderly women saying terribly crude things to them. I could post left wing ******** sucker punching old vets. If we posted every video we could find, who do you think would run out first?

Point is, everyone here had acknowledged that their are bad actors that support Trump. It serves no purpose, other than to pretend your side is any better, to keep posting links to articles that only criticize the right.
 

durhamgolfer

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But continuously posting one sided examples of acts of violence or threats of violence as if it doesn't exist on the other does move the discussion? I can post videos of Trump supporters being assaulted all day. I could post videos of left wing nut jobs harassing elderly women saying terribly crude things to them. I could post left wing ******** sucker punching old vets. If we posted every video we could find, who do you think would run out first?

Point is, everyone here had acknowledged that their are bad actors that support Trump. It serves no purpose, other than to pretend your side is any better, to keep posting links to articles that only criticize the right.
Well, that is what people on message boards do. But, my purpose in posting was that Mac has been fairly strong in his statements that Trump supporters have better things to do with their day and that most of the violence is from the left. That is simply not true and this article is support for my position.
 

GhostOf301

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Well, that is what people on message boards do. But, my purpose in posting was that Mac has been fairly strong in his statements that Trump supporters have better things to do with their day and that most of the violence is from the left. That is simply not true and this article is support for my position.
The article was about a hypothetical situation. It does not support your position if you think that there is more violence from the right. Maybe you should stop pretending to care about violence. If you only care about it when it comes from one side, then you really don't care about it at all.
 

Mac9192

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Only liberals can spin what gets said. Yes, I said Trump supporters don’t do what the radical left nut jobs have done because we have jobs, and responsibilities. That’s the truth. Never have I said that all Trump supporters are peaceful though. But, I’ll also admit that I’m not happy at all with all that’s gone on this year, and this election really makes my blood boil, but I’ll go about what I’ve always done.

On another note, @BOOGIEMAN1914, @Shatterthesky22, and maybe others, you guys, after claiming I was wrong about how long the riots/looting has gone on, haven’t responded to my posts SHOWING that they’ve gone on for at least 8 months.
 

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The article was about a hypothetical situation. It does not support your position if you think that there is more violence from the right. Maybe you should stop pretending to care about violence. If you only care about it when it comes from one side, then you really don't care about it at all.
Seriously dude? That's your take away? That I only care about it when one side is committing it? That is absolutely ridiculous. What I do care about is that the discussion on this board is fair and fact based. And, of course I will be posting things that you don't agree with. We don't seem to agree on anything. That's what makes a horse race.
 

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You are so caught up in victim hood that you manufacture it in every situation.I did not even know Soros was Jewish until you brought it up.I despise him because he has he has spent millions on on left wing prosecutor’s who refuse to prosecute criminals.Everything he proposes leads to the detriment of our country.If that makes me anti Semitic so be it
Disagreeing with George Soros does not make you an anti-Semite and I never even came close to suggesting it. But, the fact that you did not realize that Soros was Jewish does not mean that Trump doesn't recognize what he is doing and is happy to fan the anti-Semitic fires. As you are not Jewish and don't recognize the danger of some of Trump's antics, perhaps you could quit criticizing something you know nothing about. One thing I am NOT is "caught up in victim hood." One thing I am is aware of what these dog whistles can lead to, which is why I call people out when they appear to agree with them.
 

Mac9192

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Disagreeing with George Soros does not make you an anti-Semite and I never even came close to suggesting it. But, the fact that you did not realize that Soros was Jewish does not mean that Trump doesn't recognize what he is doing and is happy to fan the anti-Semitic fires. As you are not Jewish and don't recognize the danger of some of Trump's antics, perhaps you could quit criticizing something you know nothing about. One thing I am NOT is "caught up in victim hood." One thing I am is aware of what these dog whistles can lead to, which is why I call people out when they appear to agree with them.
You just showed a ton of ignorance here. Trump is happy to fan the anti-Semitic fires? He has recognized Jerusalem as their capital, and has brokered more peace deals between Israel and the Middle East. Which former President has done anything close to this? I'll wait. Speaking of anti semitic, your own Governor and Mayor of New York are on record during this "pandemic" of condemning Jews and shutting down synagogues.

One more thing, Ol Queen of the Batshit Tribe, you do realize Trump's own daughter, son in law, and grand kids are Jewish?

George Soros is an evil man, and it has nothing to do with him being Jewish.

You are walking, breathing, and living proof that education doesn't mean intelligence. Shove this "dog whistle" you keep harping about up your ***.
 
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You just showed a ton of ignorance here. Trump is happy to fan the anti-Semitic fires? He has recognized Jerusalem as their capital, and has brokered more peace deals between Israel and the Middle East. Which former President has done anything close to this? I'll wait. Speaking of anti semitic, your own Governor and Mayor of New York are on record during this "pandemic" of condemning Jews and shutting down synagogues.

One more thing, Ol Queen of the Batshit Tribe, you do realize Trump's own daughter, son in law, and grand kids are Jewish?

George Soros is an evil man, and it has nothing to do with him being Jewish.

You are walking, breathing, and living proof that education doesn't mean intelligence. Shove this "dog whistle" you keep harping about up your ***.
Do you work on being more of an ******* with each post. I am well aware that Jared is Jewish and that Ivanka converted Do you think that stops someone like Trump from playing the anti-semite card when it gets him points with his base. As far as what Trump has done for Israel, a lot of show but nothing that is going to hold. Not even the Israelis actually wanted him to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol . Creates more problems than it was worth.
BTW, I have absolutely no idea why you think that closing synagogues during the pandemic was anti-semitic. They also closed churches as well. And, as far as condeming Jews, they criticized the orthodox and Hasidic communities for failing to wear masks during services, when they were packed together singing. Cuomo and DeBlasio were right to do so. Maybe you should stay out of things you don't understand.
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I have looked the other way at this unbelivaebly insulting nickname because asking you to be civil is like pissing in the wind. But don't believe for a second that I am ok with it or think it is funny. I can start calling you some pretty nasty stuff or we can both cut it out, which would be my preference.
 

Mac9192

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Do you work on being more of an ******* with each post. I am well aware that Jared is Jewish and that Ivanka converted Do you think that stops someone like Trump from playing the anti-semite card when it gets him points with his base. As far as what Trump has done for Israel, a lot of show but nothing that is going to hold. Not even the Israelis actually wanted him to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol . Creates more problems than it was worth.
BTW, I have absolutely no idea why you think that closing synagogues during the pandemic was anti-semitic. They also closed churches as well. And, as far as condeming Jews, they criticized the orthodox and Hasidic communities for failing to wear masks during services, when they were packed together singing. Cuomo and DeBlasio were right to do so. Maybe you should stay out of things you don't understand.
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I have looked the other way at this unbelivaebly insulting nickname because asking you to be civil is like pissing in the wind. But don't believe for a second that I am ok with it or think it is funny. I can start calling you some pretty nasty stuff or we can both cut it out, which would be my preference.
What you're basically saying is your hatred for Trump overrides the good he has done. Which is more than any past President. Carry on.

Can you really piss in the wind?
 

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Seriously dude? That's your take away? That I only care about it when one side is committing it? That is absolutely ridiculous. What I do care about is that the discussion on this board is fair and fact based. And, of course I will be posting things that you don't agree with. We don't seem to agree on anything. That's what makes a horse race.
You don't care about violence unless it makes the other side look bad. That is obvious. You downplay or excuse violence from the left and you harp on and exaggerate it from the right. For ****'s sake, you posted articles defending antifa while trying to separate them from the violence. You even lied about Pelosi and Biden condemning them. You brush off the Burn Loot and Murder movement's violence by regurgitating the same nonsense the msm spews about the protests being mostly peaceful. You don't care, quit pretending to. Just like you guys don't care about corruption or the integrity of the election.
 

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Only liberals can spin what gets said. Yes, I said Trump supporters don’t do what the radical left nut jobs have done because we have jobs, and responsibilities. That’s the truth. Never have I said that all Trump supporters are peaceful though. But, I’ll also admit that I’m not happy at all with all that’s gone on this year, and this election really makes my blood boil, but I’ll go about what I’ve always done.

On another note, @BOOGIEMAN1914, @Shatterthesky22, and maybe others, you guys, after claiming I was wrong about how long the riots/looting has gone on, haven’t responded to my posts SHOWING that they’ve gone on for at least 8 months.

Never said you were wrong....I have to do my due due diligence, but your two articles didn't address riots and looting, it was incidents of vandelism, mainly spray painting and some monuments pulled down which is bad and wrong was over a two day period of anti-thanksgiving stuff....is this antifa or blm??....my take was you were saying antifa and blm for 8 months on end have been destroying american cities, your two articles didnt support that claim imo
 

Mac9192

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Never said you were wrong....I have to do my due due diligence, but your two articles didn't address riots and looting, it was incidents of vandelism, mainly spray painting and some monuments pulled down which is bad and wrong was over a two day period of anti-thanksgiving stuff....is this antifa or blm??....my take was you were saying antifa and blm for 8 months on end have been destroying american cities, your two articles didnt support that claim imo
Do what??? Did you type this with a straight face? Who do you think did this vandalizing, The Girl Scouts? How can you disagree with what I've said, when I gave several instances showing that this stuff is still going on? It's either Antifa or BLM doing all this.

I didn't know that I needed to clarify vandalism instead of looting or rioting. Is vandalism not destroying property?

That's like the guy that gets arrested for robbing the bank, and he says "I only took small bills."