You’re just being called out for cherry-picking what fits your views. That’s what you do.
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So, when I point out something ****** Trump has done it's cherry picking? What about when you all excuse his ******** behavior by saying he gets things done? When he hasn't done **** ALL FOR ANYONE. You do realize that I have **** on the Democrats and Republicans, right?
And don't worry guys, Biden is filling his cabinet with swamp members, (just like your fearless leader did), so you'll get your Qanon/Trumper Red Wave in '22 and we'll all get something much worse than Trump in '24. So, yay for that.
Occasionally you’ll say something negative about your party, but 95% of your stuff is pro left. That’s fine, at least man up and admit it instead of trying to promote yourself as neutral.
You’re not. @durhamgolfer is delusional, but she doesn’t hide who she is.
I don't think I have ever not owned it, haha Am I a progressive leftist? Yep. Do I support the current elitist led Democratic party? Nope. I hate Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo, Mayor Pete, and all these pretend lefty's who are really just like Mitch and the republicans who are beholden to their donors and special interest groups. I've never said that I was neutral politically. I don't care for the majority of the Democrats in the party. Most of them are just Republicans with rainbow flags. Neither party cares about the working class anymore. You have a select few, that's it. Hawley and Sanders tried to get $1,200 for people out here suffering and that was shot down. Congress is made up of 90-95% of do nothing politicians. That being said, if Trump and the Democrats actually get people $2,000 you'll hear me sing the praises of Trump (first time for everything) and House Dems. It won't happen though. I doubt the amendment to the bill that Tlaib and AOC presented to the House gets the unanimous vote and if it does Mitch and the Senate Republicans will shoot it down.
Oh c'mon guys at least let Christmas end before we go back to this.
Eh, sorry. This stimulus bill has me on one of late. I could be a little calmer tonally in my messages. For that, I apologize to everyone here.
I don't knkw anything about it except for your FB claim. But they used an example of a black woman who didn't get a pardon. Why? What extra does that add to whatever point is being made? Just more sensationalizing of racial issues for no reason whatsoever.
I belive the point is that Trupm is excusing people have committed fairly serious crimes while letting someone who has not, and who looks different from those he has pardoned, languish in jail. Btw, I took a look for all the black people Trump let out of jail and that number is one. He made a second pardon but that was posthumous for the fighter Jack Johnson.
The four men who committed the massacre are white. I think it's fair to bring race into it when white people are consistently shown better treatment than people of color. This is just another example of that on display. It's awful enough to see them pardoned, but it's even worse when you look at it within the broader spectrum. I can't believe that has to be explained here, but it clearly does.
Even worse is that they are going on tv getting their injections snd then saying they are doing this for the good of the country.
I am not the one who ruined a point by adding unnecessary race baiting ********. Your stupid FB message was. If it was important to you to discuss this. Why not link an article to the actual story and not someone's dramatic comparison that had nothing to do with the point? Just dumb.
More stupid FB crap. How about AOC? Why do we have to pick a republican who got the vaccine? I think most of us agree that these healthy politicians shouldn't be getting the vaccine before the more at risk people. But you clowns want to make it a partisan fight.
In a normal situation, some of us could buy the idea that the people who run our country should be among the first people to get something to protect their health. I readily concede that when it comes to triage, I am less important to the country than the President, the Speaker of the House or the Senate majority leader. But these Republicans who are getting the vaccine either joined with Trump in claiming that the virus was no big thing and that it was being blown out of proportion by the liberal elites or, knowing that what Trump was saying was a bunch of fecal matter, kept their mouths shut. Their conduct, or lack of balls, created a direct threat to the health of Americans. The idea that they run to the front of the line is galling.
The difference between them and AOC? Find me a quote from her where she downplayed the epidemic.
You are one of the worst political hacks I have ever encountered. Every democrat gets a pass from you, no matter the topic.
I dunno, might've done some good if our President, Speaker and Senate Majority Leader refused the vaccine.
He is one stupid sob who injects race into every situation.Trumps has done for blacks than Biden or any other Democrat in the last fifty years.Simply cannot fix stupid or blatant liars
Justice reform,opportunity zones in black neighborhoods,HBCU grants and the lowest unemployment for minorities before covid.to name a few
Imma take one for now, lowest unemployment for minorities before Covid....did it just magically happen or was it a gradual lowering since we recovered from the recession?
No under previous administrations both Democratic and Republican minority unemployment had not improved..Imo decreased regulations on businesses ,lower tax rates and opportunity zones lead to the increases.
You don’t recognize the fact that justice reform will save thousands of minorities from being put into prison as opposed to Biden’s bill causing thousands of minorities being incarcerated makes you even more biased than I thought you were.Btw your VicePresident put numerous minorities in jail for minor drug offenses In California so you need to shut up about Trump being a racist
Trump is still a bigot. Most of the big reforms you point to actually had little effect, but you fell for Trump’s branding. The message you responded to was about pardons and the skin color of the people he has pardoned is fairly noticeable. There was no bigger point being made. You just read one in so you could give yourself another opportunity to insult me. Amazing how you are so ready to jump down the throat of people who disagree with you that you don’t bother focus on what was actually said.
You are more of a bigot than he is.You think anyone who does not follow your ideas is either a racist, homophobic xenophobic .This type of extremism is totally bigoted
My man. You have to stay away from these horrible facebook analogies. But if you're asking for an explanation, there's a simple one. Bernie Sanders wants a tax payer's funded income. This suggested $2,000 check would be a relief for people who have lost income due to a pandemic and government demands out of their control. Though it is a socialist system that funds the check, there are clear differences that even a blind squirrel can see.
Yes and no. It is true that Bernie's plan is grander than the stimulus check but at the end of the day, they are different sides of the same coin. The bottom line is that we are looking to the government to have a huge effect on the economy and, given the definition that people seem to work with (which I actually think is questionable) that socialism is the government taking over the economy, this is socialism, even if it lasts only for a short while.
I can’t believe we have people so clueless to compare socialism to relief checks. @GhostOf301 is right, every time some Twitter post or whatever gets posted by @bleediteveryday30, it hurts his cause, not helps.
The only thing true is relying on the government for help is a big mistake, when they’re why we’re in this mess.
The only thing true is relying on the government for help is a big mistake, when they’re why we’re in this mess.
You'll argue with a piece of pizza. There are socialist programs already instituted in our government. This doesn't make us a socialist country. A relief check doesn't inch us any closer to being a socialist country. A universal income inches us much closer, or even puts us over the line. It is not two sides of the same coin. One is a penny, the other is a sack of quarters.
Ideally, congress should pass a bill that gives the industries that have been destroyed by tyrants the relief while compensating everyday (tax paying) citizens accordingly. And governors need to end their power hungry dictatorships and let everyone get back to providing for themselves. People who have been working through the pandemic shouldn't get the same as the people who have been more affected by it. This shouldn't be a stimulus bill, it needs to be a relief bill. I will be giving my check to different go fund me pages to local businesses who are hanging on by a thread. I encourage everyone else who can to do the same.
What industry has been destroyed by tyrants. Trump deregulated, he rolled by environmental protections and he oversaw huge tax breaks. If you are talking about lock downs, well we will definitely have to agree to disagree as I see them as essential to getting through this more quickly. Anyway, as far as relief v. stimulus, I doubt there would be much political will for giving people the money they really need for relief. If you have lost your job, even $2000 is no where near enough. You are going to need in the tens of thousands. The idea behind the stimulus check is that the people who did not lose their jobs will spend this money, which hopefully will keep the economy from imploding and also allow small businesses to stay afloat enough to ride this pandemic out.
You see lockdowns as essential to getting through this even though it has been proven to be a failed approach and has led to a major decline in mental health, a notable increase in suicides, domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse, a huge step back on our children's education and a complete destruction of morale. Odd how the states that have the most aggressive restrictions have the highest infectious rates compared to states that allow their businesses to be open and their citizens to earn their income.
Giving people who have lost their jobs a check is not going to make up for their lost income. That's what unemployment benefits do. But unemployment benefits don't cover their total income. Especially not for people who rely on tips. Though, they would see more if they were honest when reporting their tips, but let's be real. This check is a minor compensation in the grand scheme of things, but should be for relief. Not for a stimulus. The economy will rebound on its own once businesses start operating on a more normal level. People who did not lose their jobs are spending money, that part of your comment didn't make sense. This isn't an economic driven recession where consumer confidence is low. It is a pandemic driven recession where buyers and sellers are eager to get back to business as usual.
Giving people who have lost their jobs a check is not going to make up for their lost income. That's what unemployment benefits do. But unemployment benefits don't cover their total income. Especially not for people who rely on tips. Though, they would see more if they were honest when reporting their tips, but let's be real. This check is a minor compensation in the grand scheme of things, but should be for relief. Not for a stimulus. The economy will rebound on its own once businesses start operating on a more normal level. People who did not lose their jobs are spending money, that part of your comment didn't make sense. This isn't an economic driven recession where consumer confidence is low. It is a pandemic driven recession where buyers and sellers are eager to get back to business as usual.
UBI during a year with a pandemic, where we shut down over half the economy would've been better than what we got which is one check and a bunch of bailouts for the rich and corporate America. If wanting people to be able to pay their bills, stay in their homes, and put food on their table makes me a socialist then I guess call a spade a spade. Trump is throwing a fit because he is mad his ******** fraud claims aren't getting him anywhere. He has no real intention of helping anyone unless it helps him. How Trumpers fail to see this is truly astounding. I have friends who live all over the world and they're universally shocked to see how the American government has failed it's people. Very few in congress actually give a **** and Trunp clearly doesn't care. Simply pointing out the flawed logic of Trump supporters isn't hurting my case, it does hurt yours though.