I've asked before, and nobody ever really gives me clear, concrete examples, but how exactly did Barack Obama start the division in the United States?
The New Lounge
- Thread starter hpnole
- Start date
I've asked before, and nobody ever really gives me clear, concrete examples, but how exactly did Barack Obama start the division in the United States?
What has happened is so many Americans had to deal with Obama’s race this race that, spoon fed bs for so long , that Trump was a breath of fresh air from that bs. Then, the spoon fed cried wolf, Biden won, and the trumpers don’t want to go back to that bs, and alll hell is breaking loose lol.
I’m only proving that it wasn’t “just” Trump supporters that went in. I’m not saying he infiltrated them. You guys say it was only Trump’s supporters. Just proving you wrong. There were more there.
You think it is hard for some of these hacks to dress in Trump shirts and MAGA hats and not blend in?
You serious with this reply? He may not have started the division, but it grew under him, and he owns a lot of it.
1–The Cambridge? professor and the cop. Obama’s reply shortly after was pathetic
2-He failed to handle the Michael Brown incident like he should. The black community needed a black leader to say the truth. Had he looked at the facts, he could have helped diffuse the tension.
His whole public presentation on race was a joke. He could have been a bridge. He wasn’t. The most powerful man in the world, first black President, he failed at race relations.
Very serious with my reply.
This was his initial response to the arrest:
"I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."
He later spoke with the arresting officer and actually brought both the arresting officer and professor together, along with members of both political parties.
He later made the following comments:
"Because this has been ratcheting up -- and I obviously helped to contribute ratcheting it up -- I want to make clear that in my choice of words, I think, I unfortunately... gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge police department or Sgt. Crowley specifically. And I could've calibrated those words differently. And I told this to Sgt. Crowley."
"I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station. I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Professor Gates probably overreacted as well. My sense is you've got two good people in a circumstance in which neither of them were able to resolve the incident in the way that it should have been resolved and the way they would have liked it to be resolved."
You really consider this to be divisive?
As for Michael Brown, yeah things were learned after the fact about how aggressive Brown may have been. At the end of the day, he was an unarmed teenager shot and killed by a police officer. Pointing out that doesn't happen very often to white teenagers and expressing the feelings that come with being Black and seeing things like that happen time and again is a far cry from divisive speech.
I stand corrected. I thought you were trying to prove Antifa operatives infiltrated the MAGA movement and led the charge on Capitol Hill, not that there were non-Trump supporters present in and around the nation's capital yesterday.
Yes, I do consider Obama to have been very divisive. Say what you want about Michael Brown, he didn’t obey what the cop asked of him. A very big boy, and had the officer not shot him, who knows how bad it would have been for him. Didn’t he injure someone in the convenience store too?
The hands up don’t shoot line that originated from that is one of the biggest shams ever.
No, Brown did not injure anyone at the convenience store. He bumped someone on the way out the door, but to my knowledge there was never a claim of injury.
How was his comments about the professor's arrest and subsequent handling divisive?
It’s at least 3 1/2 minutes long. But, worth the watch. For some reason, I can’t get sound here, but he says Antifa did this yesterday.
Last edited:
I watched nearly five minutes of this and didn't hear any proof. As I listened to Pastor Burns' video, however, I went to his twitter page and saw that he, too, cited the same pictures you did of easily identified Trump supporters / QAnon followers and claimed they were Antifa infiltrators.
Pastor Burns either got fooled into spreading false information or knowingly spread false information. There is a long history of men of the cloth being wolves in sheep's clothing, though, so I will lean toward the latter.
Again, just because someone forms an idea in their mind doesn't mean that idea automatically becomes reality.
Wow. He says he was there. But, he ain’t saying what you are, so he has to be lying. You are honestly a pathetic pos.
You should be a washing machine salesman. You can really spin the **** out of anything.
I said he didn't provide a shred of proof and all it took was looking at his twitter feed for about 15 seconds to find a proven lie about yesterday's event.
That is not spinning.
How convenient of you. The smart Ol Rev has an answer for everything. You won’t admit it, but Antifa was there and it chaps your *** to know you are wrong.
You liberals are one dedicated, but delusional bunch.
The first article, which I know you didn't read, give a historical overview of riots and protests in America and shows examples of how change has come about in America following riots. At no point does he advocate for rioting and even writes at one point that he is not claiming it is a good thing to burn down buildings and destroy communities.
In the second article, which I also know you didn't read, the author calls for the arrests of those who breached the perimeter and broke into the Capitol building. He explicitly states that this not for revenge purposes but for deterrent purposes.
It is clear from reading both articles the author has much less sympathy for the motives of yesterday's actions than he does for those of the Baltimore action that he wrote about several years ago. That said, at no point does he endorse the idea of rioting only to flip the script after yesterday's events.
That's not hypocritical, but I'm sure that neither you or either of the sources who got that post to you actually read anything more than the headlines.
Each one of your posts get richer and richer. Why don’t you go lay down Rev, it’s been a long and unproductive day here for you. When you try acting smart, the dumb in you shines through.
You always throw out insults but you never actually counterpoint anything. Why is that? I know you often confuse facts and opinions, but most of the time you don't even front like you're trying to debate facts. You just hurl insults and post random conspiracies with nothing close to factual support.
I can tell you're an unhappy individual and I truly hope things get better.
I have posted things, yet each one you have some sort of answer. All in your high and almighty tone. Like a Reverend. I’ve posted plenty of things, answered your questions, and gave examples. None of it works.
I’ve said Trump supporters entered The Capitol, but so did Antifa, and gave you instances and examples to back it up. You have disputed each, even going so far as to discredit a Pastor. Nothing works with you. You still are as gridlocked on your stance. I almost admire you and @durhamgolfer. To your party, you and her are loyal like a dog.
I have no shame in saying you’re delusional. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like one, then.....
Last edited:
Please give examples of BLM people who were shot while rioting and burning down cities this summer.
They allowed them to burn down businesses this year without shooting them.
Stop it Topps. How dare you bring logic when talking to a liberal, and especially ones like @Jtre?
What the hell is wrong with you?
and tricked trump supporters into doing what they did?...clearly had orders and a purpose.....i definitely believe some folks were there to see what was going on and to see the insanity....but it was going down regardless
stop with the burning down cities...NO US cities were burned down....and has no comparison in storming the US Capitol with reps and senators and the vice president of the us
Have you forgotten that ridiculous stunt where Capitol Police teargassed peaceful protesters outside the White House this summer so Trump could go to a church and stand their holding the Bible?
You are a pathetic individual. Stop with the god awful posts of yours. I’m not defending anyone that went inside the Capitol the other day.
Peaceful protests this past summer my ***. What a load of ********. You are not only delusional, but a liar to boot.
I was responding to Topps. And nothing about that response was a lie. It was an event that happened. I am trying to be civil but reading your posts where you are twisting yourself into a pretzel to blame the left and excuse Trump for what happened yesterday is making that harder to do. I am with Jtre. You clearly have issues. I hope you can get some help.
What a pathetic windbag. This is the country’s future President. God help us all. She is a disgrace.
You pathetic loser. Where have I defended Trump with the protesters 2 days ago? Where? Just because I say Antifa was there too, you deny. Just like the other pathetic loser here, @Jtre.
They were there too.
Title is very misleading....she is clearly talking about the social injustice/police brutality protests
Please give examples of cities that were burned down this summer. I haven't engaged in hyperbole, so I ask that you actually provide examples that were actually once standing and are no longer there. That would actually be burning something down.
As far as your question, a Black business owner was killed by officer during a Louisville protest.
Based on the physical violence you saw toward peaceful protesters this summer (I'm sure even you can admit that not every protest was a riot and that many protesters were simply marching, chanting or even sitting and lying in the street) as well as the disproportionate brutality shown toward Black folks in this country, do you really doubt that armed Blacks would have been allowed to break into the Capitol building where elected officials were certifying election results and not been shot?
Do you really think Donald Trump would have denied requests to deploy the National Guard had armed Black folks been storming the Capitol to stop certification of his re-election? This is a president who actually has called for increased violence during arrests, threatened protesters with dogs and violence and actually tear gassed civilians who were not being violent because he wanted to hold a Bible upside down in front of a church he never attends.
Keeping that in mind, do you really believe the President and law enforcement would have handled Wednesday's events the same had it been BLM protesters instead of a bunch of white people who Trump claims to love?
Did you watch the video? She’s very clear. Don’t try to make excuses for her. How would you be if the roles were reversed and that was Trump?
Never mind, I know how you would answer.