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The fact that liberals hold these fact checkers in such high esteem tells you all you need to know about how “independent” they are. At far as big tech goes the foxes are in charge of the hen house. Deep down you know thus. But you would rather try to win arguments on a message board than to admit the must obvious basic truth: the web is created by and run by liberals. Look what happened to Parler for Pete’s sake
Hypocrisy knows no bounds and the European media is all over it: still journalists calling balls and strikes not cheerleading
I just acknowledged I know little about this Nord Stream thing and thanked someone for providing two sources. How's that "try[ing] to win arguments on a message board"? You didn't address anything I said; you just hurled insults. How's that NOT "try[ing] to win arguments on a message board"?
The fact checkers you're so quick to dismiss are akin to "peer reviewed" science articles. They vet sources, look at original source material, cross-reference, and analyze language use. What do you and all the other "independents" here do to make sure the information you're consuming is legit? Thinking you can go it alone against the entire media is just dumb. That's not admirable independence; it's pride, willful ignorance, and fear. Taking the time to check sources is one sign of independent thought and critical thinking. Accepting that you don't know everything yourself, then using critical thinking skills to determine who else is trustworthy is smart. It's the exact opposite of "sheeple." It's the exact opposite of "snowflake."
The Gish Gallop Fallacy: "the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a conveyor belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop."
YC News: "Overall, we rate YourContent Questionable based on poor sourcing, a lack of transparency and the publication of a fake news story."
NY Post: "Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks."
Fox News: "We rate Fox News strongly Right-Biased due to editorial positions and story selection that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed factually and borderline Questionable based on poor sourcing and the spreading of conspiracy theories."
DW News: "Overall, we rate Deutsche Welle (DW) Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record." CONGRATULATIONS!
Newsweek: "Overall, we rate Newsweek Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to two failed fact checks; however, they correct errors." CONGRATULATIONS!
Emerging Europe: "Overall, we rate Emerging Europe Left-Center biased based on editorial and political positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High due to a lack of transparency with ownership and limited sourcing of information." CONGRATULATIONS!
The Hill: "Overall, we rate The Hill Least Biased based on balanced editorial positions and news reporting that is low biased. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to previous opinion columns promoting unproven claims." CONGRATULATIONS!
YC News: "Overall, we rate YourContent Questionable based on poor sourcing, a lack of transparency and the publication of a fake news story."
NY Post: "Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks."
Fox News: "We rate Fox News strongly Right-Biased due to editorial positions and story selection that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed factually and borderline Questionable based on poor sourcing and the spreading of conspiracy theories."
DW News: "Overall, we rate Deutsche Welle (DW) Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record." CONGRATULATIONS!
Newsweek: "Overall, we rate Newsweek Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to two failed fact checks; however, they correct errors." CONGRATULATIONS!
Emerging Europe: "Overall, we rate Emerging Europe Left-Center biased based on editorial and political positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High due to a lack of transparency with ownership and limited sourcing of information." CONGRATULATIONS!
The Hill: "Overall, we rate The Hill Least Biased based on balanced editorial positions and news reporting that is low biased. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to previous opinion columns promoting unproven claims." CONGRATULATIONS!
Let's see...3 from right center...4 from left center. Seems pretty balanced. I must say that it is interesting that you post CONGRATULATIONS! after the left center sources. 
Surely that has nothing to do with ones own personal biases. Or maybe you found a source that supports said biases.
Surely that has nothing to do with ones own personal biases. Or maybe you found a source that supports said biases.No insults in my post. As far as sources go I saw this European pipeline convered by yes Fox News but also le monde cbs and abc so it kind of seemed legit. I know you mentioned concern about the Keystone cutting through native lands that are sacred to them (Liberals are very respectful of religioun as long as it doesn’t involve white Republicans) but I assume that the pipeline Nord is as environmentally unsound as dems claimed keystone to be so Biden’s decision to support the continued installment of one and not the other smacks of at best hypocrisy at worst idiocy
Are you trying to be funny?The Gish Gallop Fallacy: "the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a conveyor belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop."
YC News: "Overall, we rate YourContent Questionable based on poor sourcing, a lack of transparency and the publication of a fake news story."
NY Post: "Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks."
Fox News: "We rate Fox News strongly Right-Biased due to editorial positions and story selection that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed factually and borderline Questionable based on poor sourcing and the spreading of conspiracy theories."
DW News: "Overall, we rate Deutsche Welle (DW) Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record." CONGRATULATIONS!
Newsweek: "Overall, we rate Newsweek Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to two failed fact checks; however, they correct errors." CONGRATULATIONS!
Emerging Europe: "Overall, we rate Emerging Europe Left-Center biased based on editorial and political positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High due to a lack of transparency with ownership and limited sourcing of information." CONGRATULATIONS!
The Hill: "Overall, we rate The Hill Least Biased based on balanced editorial positions and news reporting that is low biased. We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to previous opinion columns promoting unproven claims." CONGRATULATIONS!
You claim leftist sources are impartial lean slightly to the left while Fox News is strong right and indulges conspiracy theories. No wonder your view of things is so tragically warped. So “going it alone against the entire media” is dumb. And frustrating for you and your comrades that we won’t just bend over and be good little soldiers. Not in this lifetime. Not in this country
I was congratulating you on providing sources that don't confirm your own bias.Let's see...3 from right center...4 from left center. Seems pretty balanced. I must say that it is interesting that you post CONGRATULATIONS! after the left center sources.
There are insults in nearly every one of your posts.
Assuming one pipeline is the same as another is idiocy. I'm leaning toward President Biden's decision being a bad one, as well. It's certainly a gamble.
**I** haven't claimed a thing. I have cited a site whose job is to assess bias. Here, this is what they have to say about MSNBC:
"Overall, we rate MSNBC Left Biased based on story selection that consistently favors the establishment left. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to news hosts and the website producing 3 pants on fire claims."
I didn't include them before because no one is citing them -- wisely so -- just like no one should be citing Fox News. Now, of the two of us, you're the only one offering self-assessments of sources, and without any explanation or rational at all.
What's w/ the homophobic and militaristic language? And the nationalistic bravado? It's like you're manufacturing something offensive and anti-American I've said in order to get all indignant.
Don’t have to manufacture anything. Esp anti-Americanism. The Left thinks kneeling for our national anthem is a perfectly rational response to our evil racist society. So according to the Left when a Black suspect is killed while resisting arrest it must be due to racism. So why are so many white suspects killed at the hands of police? Oh I know it’s to keep your most loyal constituency fired up when your candidates are inept senile or both
There are insults in nearly every one of your posts.
So under Trump: pipelines env disastrous Under Joe: strategic necessity
Trump: kids in cages
Biden: temp housing facility
So under Trump: pipelines env disastrous Under Joe: strategic necessity
Trump: kids in cages
Biden: temp housing facility
I am a bit of a ree ree. So forgive my slowness. But what is all of this about? Are we claiming that the Hunter Biden stuff is fake news? Or are we just avoiding that story altogether?
On the bright side Hunters pain is being transferred magically to the canvas. Haunted by false accusations by Hannity and Carlson,he is seeking solace in his art. With only a straw in hand and hope for a better future in his heart Hunter is blazing a new path. Anyone who thinks his art resembles something made by a third grader at summer camp simply doesn’t understand art
On the bright side Hunters pain is being transferred magically to the canvas. Haunted by false accusations by Hannity and Carlson,he is seeking solace in his art. With only a straw in hand and hope for a better future in his heart Hunter is blazing a new path. Anyone who thinks his art resembles something made by a third grader at summer camp simply doesn’t understand art
lol It's American af to kneel for the anthem. What else does the flag stand for?
Gratitude freedom tradition. Not self indulgent whining about how things aren’t perfect
As I said, I know next to nothing about the Nordstream. Y'all brought it up. Do you really assume that liberals and conservatives are focused on the same issues and really see them the same way but for some reason liberals consciously wish to do the wrong thing?
Our relationship with Germany is important. Preventing a power move from Russia is important. Something has to give. The issue with the Dakota Access Pipeline is domestic land rights. Why would you think it's the same thing?
The importance of our relationship with Germany is exactly why the completion of the pipeline should never happen. We spend billions of dollars on defense for Germany to protect them from... uh, Russia. The pipeline compromises interests between Russia and Germany. Despite what the US propaganda machine tells you.
Fortunately, this is America, so you don't get to decide that for anyone but yourself.
There are limits to political expression in the workplace. As far as amateur athletics there are rules there too but it’s permissible now in most settings. You’re confusing what you CAN do with what you SHOULD do but par for the course One of these days you’ll have an original thought. I just hope I’m still alive to see it.
You're not in charge of "should do," either, but tell me more about how I'm the one lacking in original thought.
I’m no more in charge of what they SHOULD do regarding our national anthem than you get to decide what’s American af or not. As far as original thought goes, I suppose I was commenting on how as a liberal you will always gravitate toward insulting our country’s symbols without perspective or historical context. Kneeling for the flag is especially jarring on the world stage in front of athletes representing genuinely oppressive countries. But it’s 2021 so don’t ever let a chance to virtue signal and look like an idiot go to waste our pampered athletes
I have a couple of questions of my own: Why did Democrats think it was acceptable to enslave, rape, and brutalize an entire race of people? Why were Democrats then willing to sacrifice an entire generation of young men In order to preserve this system? And, on a lighter note, who rode the shorter bus to school: Don lemon or aoc?
Democrats are standing outside the burning building holding the gas can.
Yet another race hustler that can say pretty much whatever he wants. At least some Americans can exercise freedom of speech
Brainwashed dummy. That is if he actually believes the ******** he says. 50/50
That take by Rhoden is his own problem, and something he needs to work out for himself. Our flag is not going anywhere, and he needs to get over the act of demented individuals on January 6th.
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EXACTLY! We both have just as much right to say what we want, stand when we want, kneel when we want, etc.
If liberals "always" gravitate toward "insulting" our symbols and that shows no original thought, what does goosestepping to those same symbols and trying to censor history say about original thought and free-thinking?
(Throwing in an "always" is a good way to lose the argument. Remind me next time I do it, b/c I will slip up and do that from time to time. And I'd say "criticizing" rather than "insulting," but I think you don't tend to listen long enough or well enough to see the difference. [See what I did there w/ "I think" and "don't tend to"? It's the opposite of what you did w/ your "always."])
"[W]ithout perspective or historical context," says the guy trying to pin slavery on today's Democratic Party. lol The historical context CRT provides is that all this wealth America accumulated in it's first four score and nine years, plus over a hundred more years as a colony, included free labor. The next hundred years included Jim Crow. What time period, exactly, was President Trump trying to take us back to, so we could be great again?
Last I checked, the Tokyo games are not the Oppression Olympics, so there are no medals. The freedom our flag stands for includes the right to criticize our own country as represented by that very flag, and it has been going on almost as long as the modern Olympics have existed. That athletes from other countries don't have that right or many others does not mean Americans have to settle. We're the best? We lead the world with our example? Then "good enough" doesn't cut it.