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durhamgolfer

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Still did not answer my question re the number of detainees at the borderRead a newspaper there are many sources out there verifying my statement.Steve Scalise on the floor of the House said the same thing.I am not going to do the research for you.If you actually did some of it you might not make such a fool of yourself
As usual, you got it half right and half wrong. Your numbers are correct. You are incorrect about them being released. Most of them are scheduled for deportation but the problem is that the Government does not want to do that until they are quarantined -- a responsible decision as an attempt to contain the virus -- and that is overrunning the ability of the border facilities.
 

Mac9192

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You are so wrong. I just don't bother to discuss how happy I am with Biden here because I know the response. I am stupid, brainwashed and the worst poster ever. You want to have a discussion without going to your stock answers and then including some misogynist references let me know.
Tell me why you’re happy with Biden. Please don’t say anything about Trump. Only what Biden is doing that you like.
 
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As usual, you got it half right and half wrong. Your numbers are correct. You are incorrect about them being released. Most of them are scheduled for deportation but the problem is that the Government does not want to do that until they are quarantined -- a responsible decision as an attempt to contain the virus -- and that is overrunning the ability of the border facilities.
There are numerous reports that the Biden administration has renewed the catch and release policies of the Obama administration.The mayors of most of the border town are adamant about this.Representative Scalise on the floor of the House said the same.I cannot recall the name of theDemocratic Representative for this region has constantly spoken about the failure of Biden allowing Covid positive illegals into the country yet I have it half wrong.I assume that you are relying on Don Lemon and the other stalwarts of truth at CNN to get your facts from.
 
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Not too worried about that.
So you say Durham will not be referring Democrats for criminal prosecution for their roles in the Russian hoax in the next month or so.Btw if you read the first part of the Mueller Report it concluded their was no credible evidence of Russian collusion.The second part goes into much speculation by the anti Trump prosecutor who had been cited many times for falsifying evidence about Trump being guilty
 

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So you say Durham will not be referring Democrats for criminal prosecution for their roles in the Russian hoax in the next month or so.Btw if you read the first part of the Mueller Report it concluded their was no credible evidence of Russian collusion.The second part goes into much speculation by the anti Trump prosecutor who had been cited many times for falsifying evidence about Trump being guilty
I did read it and the report definitely did not say there was no credible evidence of Russian collusion. For one, and the Mueller team stated this over and over, collusion is NOT a legal concept so there was no way they could have come to the conclusions you claim. Two, after Barr perjured himself about what the report said, the team came out and specifically said that, if they had been able to exonerate the President, they would have. Pretty big tell.
 

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I did read it and the report definitely did not say there was no credible evidence of Russian collusion. For one, and the Mueller team stated this over and over, collusion is NOT a legal concept so there was no way they could have come to the conclusions you claim. Two, after Barr perjured himself about what the report said, the team came out and specifically said that, if they had been able to exonerate the President, they would have. Pretty big tell.
One the Mueller report was only staffed by Democrats who sole goal was to destroy the Trump administration.Two Mueller in his testimony before Congress constantly said he did not know what was in the report.He seemed to be more cognitively impaired than Biden.Three it was primarily led by a prosecutor who had a long history of manufacturing evidence.If he had been able to persuade people that Trump was guilty he would have.There is no way to take such a biased report seriously but they still could not make their case
 

Mac9192

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Tell us how good Biden is. Not the usual “this source isn’t good, or Trump did this.”

No, tell us what Biden is doing.

I’ll wait.
 

Dattier

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You mean one that was just in the news and the other that nobody still talks about? It's cute that you're trying to divert from the reality of people allowing Trump to control their mental health. As if there is anything that would even come close to comparing.
President Trump continues to be in the news, as well.
Hillary's emails were a thing for several years.
Not to mention Benghazi. 30+ investigations into that, weren't there? But the January 6th insurrection -- let's sweep that under the rug 7 months later.
 

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Tell us how good Biden is. Not the usual “this source isn’t good, or Trump did this.”

No, tell us what Biden is doing.

I’ll wait.
Asked and answered several pages ago. If I recall, you rejected every answer, like we have to justify President Biden to you.
 

Mac9192

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Still waiting. Crisis at the border. Worst inflation in ages. Gas prices, the saga in the Middle East.

No wait, those are negatives.
 

GhostOf301

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President Trump continues to be in the news, as well.
Hillary's emails were a thing for several years.
Not to mention Benghazi. 30+ investigations into that, weren't there? But the January 6th insurrection -- let's sweep that under the rug 7 months later.
You're deflecting from the actual point. Your example of Obama's party being proof that he lives in people's heads the way Trump does is a terrible example because it wasn't about Obama. It was about how the lefty lunatics and the media were hypocritical on how they treat covid and their own mandates being ignored. Hillary? Nah. Another stupid example.

You can't have a conversation with many people without Trump coming up. There is nothing comparable with people's obsession with Trump. Nothing.

As far as January 6th. I don't know a single conservative that doesn't want everyone who entered the capitol to face reasonable punishment. Can't say the same about the libs with Hillary.
 

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You're deflecting from the actual point. Your example of Obama's party being proof that he lives in people's heads the way Trump does is a terrible example because it wasn't about Obama. It was about how the lefty lunatics and the media were hypocritical on how they treat covid and their own mandates being ignored. Hillary? Nah. Another stupid example.

You can't have a conversation with many people without Trump coming up. There is nothing comparable with people's obsession with Trump. Nothing.

As far as January 6th. I don't know a single conservative that doesn't want everyone who entered the capitol to face reasonable punishment. Can't say the same about the libs with Hillary.
When the Left frequently referred to Bush as a nazi and Cheney as a war criminal foolishly I thought that the left had reached their depths. I was a fool and the Evil Orange Man has them completely unhinged
 

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Tell us more about President Obama's birthday bash.
And Hillary's emails.
Obama’s birthday bash was the usual assortment of Limousine Liberals has beens and wanna bes. Not a mask in sight As for Crookeds emails I think we’ve covered that for now. To obsess about a politician not even in office anymore can make one a bit crazed
 

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Trending Politics is considered a "Questionable" source.
American Military News, otoh, is ranked "Least Biased."
You are quoting a source from some health care worker who rates news site part time from his basement? He has cease and desist orders against him for lies. He is a leftist but I assume that is why you quote him. He rates Mother Jones, Politico and New York Times as mostly factual , center and slightly left center. What a crock.
 

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Spell check seems to have butchered your answer but just so you know, you have to have lived here legally for five years before you are entitled to federal benefits
You have often stated that illegal aliens do not receive benefits.Recently Ted Cruz on the Senate floor said illegal aliens would receive benefits.Newsweek fact checkers said that this was not a factual statement.When his staff contacted them with actual facts they changed their opinion to be truthful.So you statements are not accurate.Before you ask me to link this look it up for yourself
 

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You are quoting a source from some health care worker who rates news site part time from his basement? He has cease and desist orders against him for lies. He is a leftist but I assume that is why you quote him. He rates Mother Jones, Politico and New York Times as mostly factual , center and slightly left center. What a crock.
They use transparent, consistent methodology for their rankings. What do you use?

I found info on how a climate change denial website rated "Conspiracy-Pseudoscience" called MBFC liars and served them a cease & desist order. That's exactly what I would expect charlatans to do; it's what President Trump did to any and every critic before, during, and after his term in office.
 

GhostOf301

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Billions of dollars in military equipment, including drones with highly sensitive technology left behind in Afghanistan has been seized by the Taliban. Joe is too busy taking naps in between bingo game to address it.
 

GhostOf301

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Not a lot of context there. Yes, I can see how all three statements could be fair. How do you see them differently?
So there's enough context for you to see how all three statements could be fair. But not enough context for him to see them differently. Yup.
 
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You have often stated that illegal aliens do not receive benefits.Recently Ted Cruz on the Senate floor said illegal aliens would receive benefits.Newsweek fact checkers said that this was not a factual statement.When his staff contacted them with actual facts they changed their opinion to be truthful.So you statements are not accurate.Before you ask me to link this look it up for yourself
It's good form to link it yourself.

It doesn't seem as pearl-clutching a thing as you make it sound. The people who would be eligible are people who have overstayed their visas, b/c they have social security numbers and pay taxes. It's akin to the inspection on your car lapsing, imo. They're technically here illegally (a border patrol spokesperson specified "technically," as did Newsweek's correction), but let's not pretend this is who any of us is thinking of when the inflammatory, fear-mongering term "illegal immigrant" is used.
 

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So there's enough context for you to see how all three statements could be fair. But not enough context for him to see them differently. Yup.
There's not enough context for me to conclude that they are fair, nor to rule out that @Mac9192 may have a reasonable take on this. I'll hear him out.

So none of what you said.
 

GhostOf301

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There's not enough context for me to conclude that they are fair, nor to rule out that @Mac9192 may have a reasonable take on this. I'll hear him out.

So none of what you said.
It was delivered by NBC news at face value. At face value, is the thinking, fair? Or could it be fear mongering? They threw two irrational issues to be concerned about in followed by the the obvious concerns. Where's whitey? I thought whitey was the biggest threat to homeland security.
 

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It was delivered by NBC news at face value. At face value, is the thinking, fair? Or could it be fear mongering? They threw two irrational issues to be concerned about in followed by the the obvious concerns. Where's whitey? I thought whitey was the biggest threat to homeland security.
After all this time... why would you assume that "face value" means the same thing to me as it does to you? I don't even know which one you're calling obvious and which two you're calling irrational.
Even the guy who tweeted it -- the Republican candidate guy who tweeted it -- turned "claims of election fraud, belief Trump can be reinstated" into "concerns about election integrity." Huge difference, an it sounds like you and @Mac9192 are buying that bait & switch with the original still visible.
 

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It's good form to link it yourself.

It doesn't seem as pearl-clutching a thing as you make it sound. The people who would be eligible are people who have overstayed their visas, b/c they have social security numbers and pay taxes. It's akin to the inspection on your car lapsing, imo. They're technically here illegally (a border patrol spokesperson specified "technically," as did Newsweek's correction), but let's not pretend this is who any of us is thinking of when the inflammatory, fear-mongering term "illegal immigrant" is used.
People who do not follow our immigration laws are criminals and should be deported not given subsidy checks.Only liberals think that people should be given the right to only follow the laws they agree with.Your statements have no basis in law or common sense.It is sad that people with your ides are allowed to influence our children
 

Mac9192

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Think it’s foolish for anyone to be buying the notion that Trump could be reinstated. Doesn’t mean the election was on the up and up.
None of what I posted should be grounds to be labeled “potential terrorists.” We’ve become a dangerous country when those that feel that way are labeled as such.

It’s even worse when posters here are ok with those labeled as that.
 
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People who do not follow our immigration laws are criminals and should be deported not given subsidy checks.Only liberals think that people should be given the right to only follow the laws they agree with.Your statements have no basis in law or common sense.It is sad that people with your ides are allowed to influence our children
Driving a car w/ an expired inspection sticker is criminal!
Unlicensed lemonade stands are criminal!
Weed is criminal!
Putting something in your neighbor's mailbox is criminal!

Calm down, Karen. :rolleyes: Even crossing the border illegally without ever having been documented is merely a misdemeanor.

The children I'm allowed to influence include undocumented immigrants, and SCOTUS has ruled in favor of their right to public schools multiple times.
 

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Driving a car w/ an expired inspection sticker is criminal!
Unlicensed lemonade stands are criminal!
Weed is criminal!
Putting something in your neighbor's mailbox is criminal!

Calm down, Karen. :rolleyes: Even crossing the border illegally without ever having been documented is merely a misdemeanor.

The children I'm allowed to influence include undocumented immigrants, and SCOTUS has ruled in favor of their right to public schools multiple times.
It is people like you who are responsible for the deterioration of the education system in our country.We spend money per student than practically any country on Earth but are no where near he top in achievement.There is a real disconnect there.There is no way that I would allow you anywhere near my kids.While it is a misdemeanor to illegally enter the country but you can spend up to six months in jail and carries a fine that escalates over time.You do not reward people to break the law.That only happens in your liberal fantasyland
 
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durhamgolfer

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Not a lot of context there. Yes, I can see how all three statements could be fair. How do you see them differently?
Why are you buying that this was even on NBC News? Photoshop is an awesome thing and other than JD Vance saying it, I have not found any other web site that is discussing this slide.
 

durhamgolfer

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You have often stated that illegal aliens do not receive benefits.Recently Ted Cruz on the Senate floor said illegal aliens would receive benefits.Newsweek fact checkers said that this was not a factual statement.When his staff contacted them with actual facts they changed their opinion to be truthful.So you statements are not accurate.Before you ask me to link this look it up for yourself
:He was talking about the $1400 stimulus check. And that is only paid to people who have social security numbers. Different from welfare, food stamps, medicare etc.
 

durhamgolfer

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You're deflecting from the actual point. Your example of Obama's party being proof that he lives in people's heads the way Trump does is a terrible example because it wasn't about Obama. It was about how the lefty lunatics and the media were hypocritical on how they treat covid and their own mandates being ignored. Hillary? Nah. Another stupid example.

You can't have a conversation with many people without Trump coming up. There is nothing comparable with people's obsession with Trump. Nothing.

As far as January 6th. I don't know a single conservative that doesn't want everyone who entered the capitol to face reasonable punishment. Can't say the same about the libs with Hillary.
One huge difference. Hillary did not break the law.
 

GhostOf301

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Driving a car w/ an expired inspection sticker is criminal!
Unlicensed lemonade stands are criminal!
Weed is criminal!
Putting something in your neighbor's mailbox is criminal!

Calm down, Karen. :rolleyes: Even crossing the border illegally without ever having been documented is merely a misdemeanor.

The children I'm allowed to influence include undocumented immigrants, and SCOTUS has ruled in favor of their right to public schools multiple times.
This kind of false equivalence is criminally stupid. Christ, dattier.