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Mac9192

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It's a good clip. He comes across as empathetic toward reasons people aren't vaccinated while still encouraging it. I hope his influence leads to more people being vaccinated.
He also comes across as practical, and using common sense. He felt parents should make the decision on their kids wearing a mask, not being forced.
Skepticism is the biggest reason more haven’t gotten vaccinated. I’m one of those. I don’t trust the people telling us to. I’m also not convinced both medical sides of the vaccine debate get to be heard on the same stage. A fair amount of medical experts have expressed their concerns as to why some medicines aren’t being allowed that should, which adds to the skepticism. There also seems to be growing rumblings of the vaccinated being spreaders.

I might be tempted to get poked if honest and concrete evidence showed that getting vaccinated reduced the risks of hospitalization.
 
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Not quite what he said but either way, a pretty bad look for Biden . . . and for Trump who negotiated the withdrawal during his presidency directly with the Taliban. But still, Biden is president and so much of this is on him.
As for 1/6: the FBI report does not suggest that the attack on the Capitol was by BLM or Antifa and the fact that it was not organized in advance does not make it any less an insurrection especially given Trump's speeches. The article attached is food for thought for those who somehow still don't think the attack as a big deal.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/january-6-minimizers/619634/
 

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Not quite what he said but either way, a pretty bad look for Biden . . . and for Trump who negotiated the withdrawal during his presidency directly with the Taliban. But still, Biden is president and so much of this is on him.
As for 1/6: the FBI report does not suggest that the attack on the Capitol was by BLM or Antifa and the fact that it was not organized in advance does not make it any less an insurrection especially given Trump's speeches. The article attached is food for thought for those who somehow still don't think the attack as a big deal.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/january-6-minimizers/619634/
What part of peacefully and legally go to the Capital and protest indicates calling for an insurrection.My dictionary has a different definition of promotion
 

GhostOf301

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Not quite what he said but either way, a pretty bad look for Biden . . . and for Trump who negotiated the withdrawal during his presidency directly with the Taliban. But still, Biden is president and so much of this is on him.
As for 1/6: the FBI report does not suggest that the attack on the Capitol was by BLM or Antifa and the fact that it was not organized in advance does not make it any less an insurrection especially given Trump's speeches. The article attached is food for thought for those who somehow still don't think the attack as a big deal.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/january-6-minimizers/619634/
What a clown you are. Who said it was BLM or antifa? The argument is that it was not a coordinated attempt to overthrow the government. Like you have sheepishly claimed that it was. Sorry the narrative that you blindly adapted fell apart. Just like the rest of them.
 

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Can a single democrat voter admit that this presidency has been a total shitshow?
could a single trump supporter admit that his entire presidency was a **** show?
What part of peacefully and legally go to the Capital and protest indicates calling for an insurrection.My dictionary has a different definition of promotion
what part of scaling walls and threatening to hang the vice president is called legal and peaceful protest? we all watched it happen in real time. if you honestly thought that was peaceful, i would like to know the drugs you were taking
 

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could a single trump supporter admit that his entire presidency was a **** show?

what part of scaling walls and threatening to hang the vice president is called legal and peaceful protest? we all watched it happen in real time. if you honestly thought that was peaceful, i would like to know the drugs you were taking
 

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Never said it was peaceful.Said it was not orchestrated by Trump.Unlike you and other liberals conservatives mostly say anyone breaking the law should be prosecuted.Liberals on the whole ignore and condone the billions of dollars of damage done in the riots last summer.Remember when the CNN reporter was on air commenting on peaceful protests while buildings were burning in the background
 
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Mac9192

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We shouldn’t be talking about Trump. Biden (Obama?) is the President NOW. And through 7 months, they are failing miserably.
When the msm is starting to have a hard time defending them, you know the **** is getting deep.
 

GhostOf301

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Never said it was peaceful.Said it was not orchestrated by Trump.Unlike you and other liberals conservatives mostly say anyone breaking the law should be prosecuted.Liberals on the whole ignore and condone the billions of dollars of damage done in the riots last summer.Remember when the CNN reporter was on air commenting on peaceful protests while buildings were burning in the background
The vast majority of conservative voters acknowledge the embarrassment of January 6th and have no issues with people facing fair and reasonable punishment. On the flip side, the vast majority of liberal voters downplay and excuse the behavior of the "protesters" who resorted to violence and mayhem. Discounted the deaths as isolated incidents compared to the overall message while depicting every death at the hands of the law, regardless of circumstance, as a symbol of a systemic problem within our justice system. At the same time as ignoring the fact that those incidents are very few and far between and are predominantly justified.
 

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Never said it was peaceful.Said it was not orchestrated by Trump.Unlike you and other liberals conservatives mostly say anyone breaking the law should be prosecuted.Liberals on the whole ignore and condone the billions of dollars of damage done in the riots last summer.Remember when the CNN reporter was on air commenting on peaceful protests while buildings were burning in the background
Perhaps you should reread what you posted. The words peaceful and legal were definitely in there.
 

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Anyone who reads the deleted part of Biden’s babbling from sit down [wasn’t a real interview] with Stephanopolus will know he should be removed from the office. He hasn’t a clue of what is going on in the world. Time for him to go.
 
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What a clown you are. Who said it was BLM or antifa? The argument is that it was not a coordinated attempt to overthrow the government. Like you have sheepishly claimed that it was. Sorry the narrative that you blindly adapted fell apart. Just like the rest of them.
Umm...
What opinion? I am not sure about BLM. But didn't they just seize money that an admitted antifa member made selling video that he recorded himself inside the capitol? Do you doubt that antifa was there?

It was hands down the Trump supporters who were responsible for the actions and the consequences of that day. But to pretend that antifa wasn't mixed in is pretty ignorant IMO.

Showing up armed and in tactical gear means you're ready for something to go down. It's not really that surprising that fans of our last President didn't have it planned out much more than that.
 

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His presidency wasn't a total shitshow. But way to avoid answering the question.
You were asking rhetorically anyway.
Executive Orders undoing policy under President Trump qualify as great things President Biden has done in my book.
 

GhostOf301

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Umm...


Showing up armed and in tactical gear means you're ready for something to go down. It's not really that surprising that fans of our last President didn't have it planned out much more than that.
You think that my comment is me saying it was BLM and antifa? I very clearly said that it was hands down Trump supporters who were responsible for what happened. Any other genius gotcha points for me?
 

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Never said it was peaceful.Said it was not orchestrated by Trump.Unlike you and other liberals conservatives mostly say anyone breaking the law should be prosecuted.Liberals on the whole ignore and condone the billions of dollars of damage done in the riots last summer.Remember when the CNN reporter was on air commenting on peaceful protests while buildings were burning in the background
It was incited by President Trump.

Liberals on the whole understand what Dr. King said: that riots are "the voice of the unheard." You don't throw more "law & order" at communities who've been overpoliced and profiled and abused by the Justice system in response to the predictable, unsurprising response to those injustices.
 

GhostOf301

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You were asking rhetorically anyway.
Executive Orders undoing policy under President Trump qualify as great things President Biden has done in my book.
"Can a single democrat voter admit that this presidency has been a total shitshow?"

This doesn't even resemble a rhetorical question. And I didn't ask it in a rhetorical way. More blunders from you. It's an honest question that has nothing to do with the last president. Only to do with the current one. Juat curious if you clowns have an ounce of reason and can admit that this presidency has been a total shitshow. Not surprised that the two idiots that responded to the question did the typical reversion back to Trump. You guys have nothing other than, but but Trump this. Trump that. Cowards.
 

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You think that my comment is me saying it was BLM and antifa? I very clearly said that it was hands down Trump supporters who were responsible for what happened. Any other genius gotcha points for me?
There's plenty of mileage left in the exact same gotcha point: "to pretend that antifa wasn't mixed in is pretty ignorant..."
 

GhostOf301

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There's plenty of mileage left in the exact same gotcha point: "to pretend that antifa wasn't mixed in is pretty ignorant..."
Is it not pretty ignorant? So antifa shows up to every single Trump rally for 5 years, but just not the BIGGEST one yet? Even you don't believe that.
 

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"Can a single democrat voter admit that this presidency has been a total shitshow?"

This doesn't even resemble a rhetorical question. And I didn't ask it in a rhetorical way. More blunders from you. It's an honest question that has nothing to do with the last president. Only to do with the current one. Juat curious if you clowns have an ounce of reason and can admit that this presidency has been a total shitshow. Not surprised that the two idiots that responded to the question did the typical reversion back to Trump. You guys have nothing other than, but but Trump this. Trump that. Cowards.
Aww, you mad?

I answered your question anyway, despite its indeed being rhetorical, not to mention loaded. I referred to President Trump indirectly. I did not revert back to pointing fingers at him.
 

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Is it not pretty ignorant? So antifa shows up to every single Trump rally for 5 years, but just not the BIGGEST one yet? Even you don't believe that.
It's irrelevant. There was no clash with President Trump's supporters, nor any infiltration, impersonation, etc.
 

Mac9192

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Sure, let’s bring up Trump 7 months into the next President’s term. Why? It’s easy. This President now can’t even put 2 sentences together, and he can’t walk up the sidewalk to his back door.

The best time of the day for his staff is when it’s nap time for Sleepy Joe.
 
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Y'all do realize President Biden has had a lifelong stutter, don't you?

President George W Bush took us into Afghanistan. That's almost 20 years ago and it's relative to the discussion of Afghanistan. Why would the damage done under President Trump already be irrelevant 7 months later?
 

Mac9192

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It’s debatable on being there, definitely staying 20 years. The issue isn’t leaving, it’s how we did, and what has obviously transpired. This isn’t on Trump. There was no plan by Biden. Matter of fact, you could have assembled a better plan to exit from a bunch of teenagers.

This in Afghanistan has been awful, which sadly reflects Biden’s (Obama’s) first 7 months.
 

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Aww, you mad?

I answered your question anyway, despite its indeed being rhetorical, not to mention loaded. I referred to President Trump indirectly. I did not revert back to pointing fingers at him.
No, lil guy. I am not mad. More diversion.

You did not answer my question. My question has to do with this current presidency being a shitshow. You neither said yes it has been, or no it hasn't been. You did not bring Trump up indirectly. You made a stupid comment about how undoing his policies can be viewed as great things that Biden has done. That is directly referring to Trump and refusing to address the current presidency. That's all you got. At least he's not Trump.
 

GhostOf301

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It's irrelevant. There was no clash with President Trump's supporters, nor any infiltration, impersonation, etc.
You brought up an old conversation where I very clearly put all of the blame for January 6th on Trump supporters as some kind of gotcha point to make me come off as a liar for asking who said it was BLM or antifa...

Let me ask you, did I say it was BLM or antifa? Or did I just make a common sense assertion that it would be pretty ignorant to think that they weren't present? I agree that it is irrelevant. So why aren't you calling out your fellow lib for bringing them into the discussion as a way to divert from the actual topic? You know... "take her to task".
 

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Y'all do realize President Biden has had a lifelong stutter, don't you?
Haha. As someone who is not a fan of Biden (you). Are you seriously using this MSDNC talking point about Biden having a stutter to avoid acknowledging his obvious cognitive decline? Yikes.
 
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It’s debatable on being there, definitely staying 20 years. The issue isn’t leaving, it’s how we did, and what has obviously transpired. This isn’t on Trump. There was no plan by Biden. Matter of fact, you could have assembled a better plan to exit from a bunch of teenagers.

This in Afghanistan has been awful, which sadly reflects Biden’s (Obama’s) first 7 months.
It's the worst moment of President Biden's first year so far. If you're lucky you'll get to pin it on him for the rest of this term and use it for political gain.

The exit is on President Biden. He wasn't set-up for success by his predecessors, including his immediate predecessor.
 

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No, lil guy. I am not mad. More diversion.

You did not answer my question. My question has to do with this current presidency being a shitshow. You neither said yes it has been, or no it hasn't been. You did not bring Trump up indirectly. You made a stupid comment about how undoing his policies can be viewed as great things that Biden has done. That is directly referring to Trump and refusing to address the current presidency. That's all you got. At least he's not Trump.
You asked whether any liberal will admit that it's what you say it is, which you insinuate is an objective truth. My guess is no, b/c no liberal is going to look at it w/ as much predetermined bias against this administration as you have.

If you're going to ask questions -- real questions -- learn how to take answers you don't like. Especially if you're going to ask liberals, b/c you're not going to like their answers. Undoing terrible decisions made by our last President is a huge plus. With immigration, he may right wrongs he was part of during the Obama administration. That's not me saying "at least he's not Obama," whom I preferred, just like saying undoing President Trump's bad policies isn't my saying "at least he's not Trump."
 

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Haha. As someone who is not a fan of Biden (you). Are you seriously using this MSDNC talking point about Biden having a stutter to avoid acknowledging his obvious cognitive decline? Yikes.

Here's a video from over 5 years ago where he talks about his stutter. Playing the long game, huh? :rolleyes:

I was responding directly to @Mac9192 's comment mocking how he talks. As for cognitive decline, I'm pretty sure he can say "person, woman, man, camera, TV" and then not brag about it.
 

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I had no idea a stutter causes you to forget basically evey...you know...the thing. I have a dear friend in his late 70's that has a major issue with stuttering. I can promise you there is a huge difference in what you see between the 2.
 

GhostOf301

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You asked whether any liberal will admit that it's what you say it is, which you insinuate is an objective truth. My guess is no, b/c no liberal is going to look at it w/ as much predetermined bias against this administration as you have.

If you're going to ask questions -- real questions -- learn how to take answers you don't like. Especially if you're going to ask liberals, b/c you're not going to like their answers. Undoing terrible decisions made by our last President is a huge plus. With immigration, he may right wrongs he was part of during the Obama administration. That's not me saying "at least he's not Obama," whom I preferred, just like saying undoing President Trump's bad policies isn't my saying "at least he's not Trump."
So many wasted words.


Here's a video from over 5 years ago where he talks about his stutter. Playing the long game, huh? :rolleyes:

I was responding directly to @Mac9192 's comment mocking how he talks. As for cognitive decline, I'm pretty sure he can say "person, woman, man, camera, TV" and then not brag about it.

Eh oh el.
 

Mac9192

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It's the worst moment of President Biden's first year so far. If you're lucky you'll get to pin it on him for the rest of this term and use it for political gain.

The exit is on President Biden. He wasn't set-up for success by his predecessors, including his immediate predecessor.
Come on Datt. Everyone knew the plan. It’s that simple. They’ve hacked up everything else so far. He’s worn out. The brain is mush. That’s not being mean. And they coddle him as much as possible, but his handlers couldn’t protect him with this debacle in Afghanistan.
They’re trying to get as much out of Ol Joe as they can, cause Harris is as awful with supposedly a clear mind.

The better of these 2 is like winning the award for being the tallest midget.
 
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