Funny you should mention that. I was at a cocktail party when that sh show of a press conference was going on in the background and I think I heard some one say “where’s lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?” And someone responded or even dr kevorkyan. Lol
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That sounds really suspicious, that part about you having a friend.
No, in all seriousness I hope their recovery is quick and full.
i disagree some Mac....it seems ingenious to say that trump was THE sole reason for low gas.....a whole lot of factors play in gas prices...world events one of the top.....gas was def much lower during the lockdown as the supply was up and demand was low when movement was stagnated
i do find that hard to believe also that americans want to stay there unless they have become entrenched in the culture or have ties to country maybe????.... thats def a hard sell to me
What about 2017-19? What’s the excuse for those years? My reference to November of 20 was to only show how it drastically went up in a short time. Everything that we benefited from during his term has been reversed in less than 7 months.
I know y’all didn’t like him, but you’re letting feelings get in the way of facts.
World events effecting OUR gas prices is exactly why we need to be energy independent and quit relying on enemies to supply our needs.
By this do you mean drilling in more places in this country or going to wind and electrical power?
i was only referring to 2020 when we all experienced the lower gas because of the initial covid outbreak and lockdowns and the supply being more than the demand....i honestly have no idea what gas was from 2017-2019, so looked it up...check my stats if you desire and i included back to 2015 to include some Obama as well...
2015 - $2.43
2016 - $2.15
2017 - $2.42
2018 - $2.72
2019 - $2.61
2020 - $2.17
2021 - where i live right now reg fluctuates between $2.79 and $2.99....today $2.89
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Whatever it takes to become energy independent. No matter how much we want to get away from oil, it's just not happening. So a combination of drilling more and furthering clean energy technology.
Why then during a pandemic would a decision be made to shut down a pipeline, knowing our fuel costs are going to go back up? Look at the jobs lost. Think about it. Remove the party goggles for a minute and ask yourself if this was a wise decision.
Now take it one step further, and look at the other decisions that have been made under Biden. Has he done a good job?
Hard not to think our current administration isn’t intentionally trying to hurt the country.
First, this inept president hands Putin a list of targets and "warns" him not to hack them. Now his state department, I am sure to his knowledge, gives the Taliban a list of people's names and passport IDs so that they can be let through the Taliban's checkpoints to enter Kabul's airport. The entire administration needs to step down. ..
from my understanding the keystone pipeline is in operation and it was the keystone xl portion that got the axe, correct me f i am wrong.....hard to say job losses for the 1,200 mile portion that was never started...to me it look like an environmental decision, but people will see it differently imo
*not my words*
*No matter how you look at it, Keystone XL would be bad for wildlife, especially endangered species. Many imperiled species live along the proposed pipeline's path and in areas where tar-sands oil is produced. If the pipeline were built, it would decimate habitat these species rely on.
*The company behind the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline said Wednesday it's officially terminating the project. ... Environmentalists opposed the pipeline in part because of the oil it would carry — oil sands crude from Alberta. It requires more processing than most oil, so producing it emits more greenhouse gases
*The type of oil that TC Energy wants to transport from Alberta via the XL pipeline is known as tar sands, a thick-as-molasses oil due to a hydrocarbon substance called bitumen, which also contains a mixture of clay, sand and water. This type of oil is considered one of the dirtiest fossil fuels on the planet. Extracting it involves clearing large swaths of biodiverse boreal forest and using steam to liquefy the underground bitumen. All of this comes at a great cost to the environment and contributes to climate change, explaining why so many different groups are opposed to the project. Yet just as many groups have political and financial reasons to keep the Keystone XL pipeline alive.
*As previously touched upon, tar sands is not your average oil. Accessing it requires two different methods, neither of which is environmentally friendly. Both require water from the nearby Athabasca River in Alberta, taxing its finite quantities. The first method, involving surface mining, creates gallons of wastewater in the process. This wastewater is stored in "tailings ponds," where the toxic water is more likely to leak into the environment. The other method involves pumping steam underground in order to access the needed bitumen through a well. This method also requires burning fossil fuels in the process. In fact, extracting tar sands oil produces more greenhouse gas emissions than extracting other natural resources.
Extraction methods aren't the only environmental threat. Oil pipeline leaks and spills are very real dangers too. In 2010, a faulty pipeline carrying tar sands oil leaked 843,000 gallons into Michigan's Kalamazoo River. Owned by Canadian-based Enbridge, the company's slow response to stop the spill prompted area evacuations and permanently damaged the Talmadge Creek, the initial site of the spill. The incident is considered the largest inland oil spill to occur in the U.S. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service estimated that the oil damaged more than 1,560 acres of streams and rivers and negatively impacted at least 4,000 area animals that needed to be saved. Not only that, but removing bitumen from the environment is a far more costly and involved process than typical crude oil, itself a costly and involved process. Whereas crude oil floats on a surface, bitumen sinks.
Then there's the matter of using tar sands oil itself as a fossil fuel. As it stands, burning the full amount that current technology is able to extract would contribute 22 billion metric tons of carbon to the atmosphere. The worst-case scenario predicts burning the maximum amount of tar sands oil that exists in Alberta would increase global warming by 0.4 degrees Celsius.
You refused to even answer my post, instead choosing to side step the major point of my post. Which is, why did gas go up so much in such a short time, and can you honestly say things aren’t worse so far under this administration?
Don’t overthink this. It’s really simple. Remove your party goggles. Please.
not sure what i missed that you were looking for....earlier, you made the claim that gas was so much cheaper under Trump and due to him....i showed some average gas prices that dont quite suggest that....we all know gas was cheap in 2020 and pretty much why....has it gone up, yes...is the demand up, yes......looking again at trumps years of gas price averages 2.42, 2.72, 2.61..........gas on average currently is about 2.90.....gas is up 20-30 cents over the past 2 years excluding 2020........still in a global pandemic, yet travel is increasing....we just exited the summer where gas prices are traditionally higher, lets see how they continue........and honestly for me personally right now things are no worse for me and mine (except doing our best to elude covid), thankfully......and i responded to your pipeline question as well...seems like an environmental issue...and you can wipe your goggles a bit as well
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First off, I did miscalculate the gas prices. Was a little surprised to see the average from 16-19. I remember the high prices during a bulk of Obama’s terms.
But, you’re making excuses for why it went up so drastic from Trump’s last year to now. Which should not happen during a pandemic.
I know it, you know it, we all know it.
That's fine, it's okay to make a mistake...iirc gas was sky high end of Bush and into the beginning of Obama during the recession....Trump's last year is 2020...gas was low because the demand was low and the supply was high....the world was in lockdowns...travel was basically shutdown, and etc...but as shown 2017, 2018, 2019 wasn't as low as you seemed to want to make it out to be...the pandemic is a world event that effects gas prices...US presidents don't have that much sway on gas prices...the world has been trending on opening up with the vaccines, traveling more, and the demand is up at the moment....more than likely, supplies are lower at the moment which leads to the higher costs currently and higher costs that aren't that much higher than Trump's 2018 and 2019 averages when everything was so great...gas increased significantly from Obama's last year and Trumps 1st three years
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I am shocked that nobody is upset that we gave the Taliban a hit list of people who helped our military for the past 19 years and denied their evacuation because we wouldn't let them bring their families. These are people who are verified allies and we care more about people cutting in line at the border.
There are people upset. It’s just the ones who can do something about it aren’t.
I guess we should be shockproof at the depths of callousness of this administration Heartless clueless or an equally toxic mixture of both?
Wow. For the good of the country, Stop scheduling these meetings after warm milk or during nap time!
Awww. That’s adorable. Gateway Pundit actually featured **ME** once upon a time. If that doesn’t tell you what a ridiculous, bogus source it is, you must think more highly of me than you let on.
This pretty much covers it for me. If this is the first time you’ve clutched your pearls over this — or, if you had that sudden urge strictly from January 20 (noon), 2009 through January 20 (noon), 2017 — you can GMLY
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Pretty dead on actually. The only thing it leaves out is how badly Trump f--ked things up when he decided to negotiate with terrorists and cut the actual government out of those negotiations. Once again living up to his billing as the guy who could make deals.
You are a garbage person. You have no issues with Biden literally negotiating with the Taliban assuming that they would operate in good faith. Giving them the identities of thousands of people who helped us for the past 19 years. Basically writing their death tickets. But somehow you take the story to Trump with lies and sensationalism. You're a piece of ****.
And yet we’re racist if we would prefer anything other than to roll out the red carpet for those traipsing across our southern border who many of them will take cash jobs. Eat our schools alive and flood our hospitals who have not done one thing for the security of our nation or our troops
The “terrorists” were the ones in charge. I’m sure if he had it to do over again he would try to cut deals with the people not in charge like the janitors who forgot to clean up the sh- your idol Obama left behind.