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KDSTONE

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I thought we were supposed to be restoring trust with our allies
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These idiots in charge now are completely incompetent completely clueless and we should all take a step back and recognize. “This is what an empire falling apart looks like”
 

Dattier

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Ghost got a little intense with his replies, but I think it’s good that he did. What you are doing though Datt is gutless. You are mocking someone for being upset over something that is real AND tragic.

That either shows one of two things. You have no actual comeback except to act childish, or you don’t know right from wrong.
Or that trying to have a reasonable dialogue with people who claim that in 7 months a President has sealed his fate as the worst of all-time and who demonize you for having voted for him is pointless.
 

Dattier

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And your refusal to actually comdemn the administration's piss poor decision that will lead to more bloodshed of people we promised to evacuate by deflecting to your personal opinion on how I am out of control just shows how blindly loyal you are to a **** party. Let's get back to really important ****, dat. Like gender studies and falsehoods regarding racism.

Speaking of racism. When's the last time we were outraged over a black man being shot by the police? Has that just stopped, or has the media just stopped exploiting these incidents because it isn't an election year?
Andrew Brown, Jr's murder in Elizabeth City, NC in May is the last one I remember getting much media attention.

I have little interest in or time today for proving myself to ridiculous message board conservatives who are too emotionally compromised and filled with contempt.
 

KDSTONE

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Or that trying to have a reasonable dialogue with people who claim that in 7 months a President has sealed his fate as the worst of all-time and who demonize you for having voted for him is pointless.
Well where should I start old pal? He had a barely functional iq to begin with and now he he has gone senile to boot so yes we will keep up our attacks As far as demonization goes you’re a liberal so I’ll leave that to you your one and only field of expertise
 

KDSTONE

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Andrew Brown, Jr's murder in Elizabeth City, NC in May is the last one I remember getting much media attention.

I have little interest in or time today for proving myself to ridiculous message board conservatives who are too emotionally compromised and filled with contempt.
Who is Andrew brown? A career criminal who died at the hands of police when he shouldn’t have or a tool of the left who wants to pretend like we’re living in the 1800s
 

GhostOf301

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Andrew Brown, Jr's murder in Elizabeth City, NC in May is the last one I remember getting much media attention.

I have little interest in or time today for proving myself to ridiculous message board conservatives who are too emotionally compromised and filled with contempt.
Lol. That story didn't get that much media attention outside of NC past the initial reports. It certainly didn't get built up by the media like it would have had the year been 2024.

And lol at being emotionally compromised. You wore a pussyhat while screaming at the sky. I don't think I will trust your judgment on what qualifies as emotionally compromised.
 

Mac9192

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Or that trying to have a reasonable dialogue with people who claim that in 7 months a President has sealed his fate as the worst of all-time and who demonize you for having voted for him is pointless.
You haven’t shown any attempt to be rational. Instead, you have mocked someone for being angry over the events in Afghanistan.
The bigger problem that is exposed is the sad reality you haven’t expressed any displeasure on what has happened.

I’m also calling out @BOOGIEMAN1914 snd @durhamgolfer. You all should be appalled at what has happened. Instead you all dig your heels in deeper, because it’s “your side.” Playing party politics over actual right and wrong.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
 

GhostOf301

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Who is Andrew brown? A career criminal who died at the hands of police when he shouldn’t have or a tool of the left who wants to pretend like we’re living in the 1800s
His criminal record isn't relevant to how he died except thatbthe cops wouldn't have been there to serve the felony warrant to begin with. How he died was he aimed his car at two officers and hit the gas. Another officer from his left rear fired on him to save the other officers. But they don't care why or that there is no way to prove race played a role in it. They just want to use it as a way to show that there is a systemic problem with how we police our citizens.
 

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You haven’t shown any attempt to be rational. Instead, you have mocked someone for being angry over the events in Afghanistan.
The bigger problem that is exposed is the sad reality you haven’t expressed any displeasure on what has happened.

I’m also calling out @BOOGIEMAN1914 snd @durhamgolfer. You all should be appalled at what has happened. Instead you all dig your heels in deeper, because it’s “your side.” Playing party politics over actual right and wrong.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
You know they won’t be.
 

KDSTONE

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His criminal record isn't relevant to how he died except thatbthe cops wouldn't have been there to serve the felony warrant to begin with. How he died was he aimed his car at two officers and hit the gas. Another officer from his left rear fired on him to save the other officers. But they don't care why or that there is no way to prove race played a role in it. They just want to use it as a way to show that there is a systemic problem with how we police our citizens.
His criminal record is relevant When cops show up and they see the guy has a long rap sheet of felonies and misdemeanors is relevant but the fact that he has a history of being belligerent with cops is extremely relevant.
 

KDSTONE

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His criminal record isn't relevant to how he died except thatbthe cops wouldn't have been there to serve the felony warrant to begin with. How he died was he aimed his car at two officers and hit the gas. Another officer from his left rear fired on him to save the other officers. But they don't care why or that there is no way to prove race played a role in it. They just want to use it as a way to show that there is a systemic problem with how we police our citizens.
Your first sentence is incorrect
 

GhostOf301

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Your first sentence is incorrect
Maybe my sarcasm was too subtle. I was beating the libs to the "hid criminal record is irrelevant" while pointing out that it was is criminal record that got him the felony warrant that led to his altercation with the cops to begin with.
 
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BOOGIEMAN1914

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Lol. It was not doctored. It was not manipulated. And it is not an ongoing narrative. Sleepy joe has been a thing since he was falling asleep at major events as VP.

And yes, Trump forcing his way in front of whoever that leader was, showed a lack of respect. Any other brain busters for me? Because Trump is so relevant to this conversation.
Only brought up Trump when you mentioned Biden being disrespectful and if you believe that video is accurate even though it has been refuted...cool
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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No one is even debating leaving or staying. Don’t even know why you brought that up. It’s how we left, which was awful.
Did you recognize the helicopter? The one with the person hanging from it? That was one of the many items we left behind. As in $85 billion left behind.

What you watched on video was disturbing, to say the least. Which your post is too.
Yadda yadda yadda you have said so much wacked out stuff and trying to check somebody, I won't be joiningyou there.....I included what I included...the pullout was awful and haphazard no argument there....helicopter left by afghans or americans?....because yeah the afghans left stuff....when the usa leave stuff, it's rendered useless
 

Dattier

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You haven’t shown any attempt to be rational. Instead, you have mocked someone for being angry over the events in Afghanistan.
The bigger problem that is exposed is the sad reality you haven’t expressed any displeasure on what has happened.

I’m also calling out @BOOGIEMAN1914 snd @durhamgolfer. You all should be appalled at what has happened. Instead you all dig your heels in deeper, because it’s “your side.” Playing party politics over actual right and wrong.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Y'all politicized it and told us we had blood on our hands from the very beginning.
 

Mac9192

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Yadda yadda yadda you have said so much wacked out stuff and trying to check somebody, I won't be joiningyou there.....I included what I included...the pullout was awful and haphazard no argument there....helicopter left by afghans or americans?....because yeah the afghans left stuff....when the usa leave stuff, it's rendered useless
Not true. Yesterday in your post to me you said it was horrible if true about the person hanging from the chopper. Then you brought up whether we should be there or leave. That was never the issue. It’s how we left, and what has transpired since, which again you are dodging. Your response is to move the goalposts, which is a common answer of you libs.

You should man up and say this has been an utter **** show. One that lives have been lost due to either incompetence or pure evil.

It’s one or the other. There is no other option.
 

Mac9192

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Y'all politicized it and told us we had blood on our hands from the very beginning.
4th and 40 and you run a QB sneak. Dodge the issue. You all refuse to call Afghanistan what it is. Then you try an old trick, blame shifting.

Grow a set Datt. Admit Afghanistan has been totally screwed to hell.
 
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GhostOf301

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Only brought up Trump when you mentioned Biden being disrespectful and if you believe that video is accurate even though it has been refuted...cool
What does Biden being disrespectful have to do with Trump? How does it being refuted make him not disrespectful by not being attentive while another world leader is speaking to him?
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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Not true. Yesterday in your post to me you said it was horrible if true about the person hanging from the chopper. Then you brought up whether we should be there or leave. That was never the issue. It’s how we left, and what has transpired since, which again you are dodging. Your response is to move the goalposts, which is a common answer of you libs.

You should man up and say this has been an utter **** show. One that lives have been lost due to either incompetence or pure evil.

It’s one or the other. There is no other option.
correct, horrible if that was a person being hung.....my whole point about us being there was if we were still there, stuff like that wouldn't happen, do you agree?....in order to prevent that we gotta be there, so should we still be there or finally time to leave?.....i have already said the pullout, the leaving how it has happened and the chaos is bad, its messed up, dont know how i could say it any differently unless i say it as you would say...so i am not sure of what im dodging according to you....i hate that the 13 lives were lost and any collateral deaths in the days of the pullout...i dont think anything in regards to war is gonna be perfect...20 years, thousand of lives, millions/billions spent , 3 presidency's and 1 pulling the plug, i believe we had good intentions, it unfortunately didn't work ...i believe the afghan govt/military was content w/ how things were and them cut and running def didnt help matters
 

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What does Biden being disrespectful have to do with Trump? How does it being refuted make him not disrespectful by not being attentive while another world leader is speaking to him?
you mentioned biden as disrespectful and it seemed to bother you, i was pointing out another situation....thats it.........i already said if that was the demeanor during the whole meeting or even way more than the 20ish or so second clip, id say yeah thats not a good look...have you ever been in conversation with someone and you looked away, though still listening?...or kinda looked down and pondered what was being said to you to form a response back...ever?
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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Not true. Yesterday in your post to me you said it was horrible if true about the person hanging from the chopper. Then you brought up whether we should be there or leave. That was never the issue. It’s how we left, and what has transpired since, which again you are dodging. Your response is to move the goalposts, which is a common answer of you libs.

You should man up and say this has been an utter **** show. One that lives have been lost due to either incompetence or pure evil.

It’s one or the other. There is no other option.
Hey Mac check this out in regards to the helicopter/hanging convo

 

GhostOf301

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have you ever been in conversation with someone and you looked away, though still listening?...or kinda looked down and pondered what was being said to you to form a response back...ever?
I know you feel it's your partisan duty to defend and explain even the smallest of things that paint your side in a negative way. But why is this the hill you want to die on? He clearly dozed off. There was no manipulation, there was no doctoring of the video. It was a bad look. Not the biggest deal ever. Which is why it's weird that you guys want to fight it so hard. Biden should be in assisted living receiving memory treatment. Not dozing off while hosting the Israeli PM. Not giving military orders to kill civilians. Not promising thousands of people safe evacuation and leaving them to die.
 

BOOGIEMAN1914

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I know you feel it's your partisan duty to defend and explain even the smallest of things that paint your side in a negative way. But why is this the hill you want to die on? He clearly dozed off. There was no manipulation, there was no doctoring of the video. It was a bad look. Not the biggest deal ever. Which is why it's weird that you guys want to fight it so hard. Biden should be in assisted living receiving memory treatment. Not dozing off while hosting the Israeli PM. Not giving military orders to kill civilians. Not promising thousands of people safe evacuation and leaving them to die.
your are right uphill indeed and thanks......just for one last moment of clarity, you know he was sleep and all the reports from different sites and fact checks are wrong and just the sites that are running w/ the sleep narrative are right........
 

Dattier

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Why should we think they’ll believe us over anything when they won’t even acknowledge Biden is inept, and we are seeing it with our own eyes?
Why should we believe you over sources we trust more than your sources?
 

topps coach

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Looked over several approval pills and Biden is under fifty percent.Wonder if he can get the 10 percent of dead and nonexistent voters polled to get his approval ratings back up
 
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GhostOf301

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What do your eyes tell you about Biden?
 

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We politicized it? Right. The pullout was unnecessary. We have far more troops in Korea and Germany .
Except that Trump negotiated this withdrawal. Biden would have wanted to withdraw anyway but he felt he had to honor Trump's agreement. Of course, that big orange douche negotiated with terrorists and cut the actual government that we were propping up out of the equation. That is partly what led the Afghan military to dissolve. They did not believe that. had any protection with the Taliban taking over. Yup, the great deal maker made yet another disaster of a deal.
 

topps coach

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Except that Trump negotiated this withdrawal. Biden would have wanted to withdraw anyway but he felt he had to honor Trump's agreement. Of course, that big orange douche negotiated with terrorists and cut the actual government that we were propping up out of the equation. That is partly what led the Afghan military to dissolve. They did not believe that. had any protection with the Taliban taking over. Yup, the great deal maker made yet another disaster of a deal.
Biden certainly had no problem ending every other Trump policy.Why but as this one different?The Taliban feared Trump and knew Biden is a joke and emboldened them as it will to all of our enemies overseas.The decision to pull out was correct but the execution was a disaster.Biden is still trying to blame Trump for all his failures.As the long time Democratic insider said Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy for the last fifty years
 

GhostOf301

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Except that Trump negotiated this withdrawal. Biden would have wanted to withdraw anyway but he felt he had to honor Trump's agreement. Of course, that big orange douche negotiated with terrorists and cut the actual government that we were propping up out of the equation. That is partly what led the Afghan military to dissolve. They did not believe that. had any protection with the Taliban taking over. Yup, the great deal maker made yet another disaster of a deal.
What a stupid take. This is not at all Trump's plan. And holy ****. There is not a dumber thing said throughout this whole thing than, "Biden felt he had to honor Trump's agreement." Just when you are about to move to the 2nd worst hack, you solidify your place at number one.
 
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Mac9192

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What a stupid take. This is not at all Trump's plan. And holy ****. There is not a dumber thing said throughout this whole thing than, "Biden felt he had to honor Trump's agreement." Just when you are about to move to the 2nd worst hack, you solidify your place at number one.
Yeah you beat me to it. The dumb meter pegged out on the Ol gals latest post. There is no one eat up with TDS like her.
 
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Biden certainly had no problem ending every other Trump policy.Why but as this one different?The Taliban feared Trump and knew Biden is a joke and emboldened them as it will to all of our enemies overseas.The decision to pull out was correct but the execution was a disaster.Biden is still trying to blame Trump for all his failures.As the long time Democratic insider said Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy for the last fifty years
Biden ended domestic policies enacted through executive order. There is a world of difference between that and failing to honor an international agreement.