What’s outrageous about their claims? You don’t think people in countries like Haiti get hungry enough that they kill stray and wild animals and eat them? They’ve been in our country a very short time.
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There’s no way determine the citizens’ motives to complain. You have no idea whether the speaker is xenophobic or not based on this footage
It’s only “baseless” because the local authorities are too corrupt and/ or incompetent to properly investigate. Notice that the police at no point have said they will address the citizens’ concerns
Turns out that picture of the man carrying the duck was taken a month before these allegations started and in Columbus Ohio. The whole thing is a bunch of crap. The fact that you guys bought into it is not surprising albeit pathetic.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/09/rumors-about-an-ohio-town-show-scale-right-wing-bubble/
The city of Springfield and the msm have a vested interest in burying this story regardless of the facts on the ground. No investigation= no evidence. The fact that you think 20,000 Haitians can be dropped in a small town in Ohio without any negative consequence is not surprising albeit pathetic
Who said without consequence? I said the story was false. You insist on buying into unsubstantiated conspiracy theories because you are willing to think the worst of these LEGAL immigrants.
I won't accuse him of lying, but I'm also not going to accept a single person -- or even a small handful of citizens -- at a county commissioners meeting as evidence of a pandemic.
I don't know what to believe with this story about the Haitians, and duck eating. So much crap floats around the internet. I'll also say the "spokesman" in this duck eating story doesn't exactly make me burn with confidence.
What is undeniably a fact? The party of tolerance for illegals in this country all the sudden aren't tolerant anymore when the immigrants are in their backyard.
Their slogan should be "TOLERATE, BUT NOT NEAR ME"
What is undeniably a fact? The party of tolerance for illegals in this country all the sudden aren't tolerant anymore when the immigrants are in their backyard.
Their slogan should be "TOLERATE, BUT NOT NEAR ME"
Let’s not forget the Biden/ Harris admin used the Border Patrol Whipping Hoax as the political catalyst to get protected status for these very same Haitian immigrants we are discussing. As you point out they never seem to end up in Marin county or Martha’s Vineyard
Do you recognize the irony in critiquing someone for calling others prejudiced at the same time you're referring to their world view as "warped"?
Teachers do not and should not answer directly to parents. Not directly. There are procedures in place for parents to address concerns. Having a concern does not entitle them to the result they want. More often than not, if they're looking to get their own child out of a specific assignment or activity, that will be granted. That's as it should be, as stupid as their decision may be. More often than not, if they are trying to dictate what anyone's kid is allowed to learn at school -- like banning books or insisting on abstinence-only sex ed -- they won't get their way. That's also as it should be, regardless of how much merit their position has.
A safe place to go to school does not mean one without discomfort. Education is supposed to be challenging. Challenges are uncomfortable. That's how we learn and grow.
Quick example about false equivalencies: affirming Student A's identity is not shoving their identity in anyone else's face; telling Student B they can not spout off about how sinful Student A's "lifestyle" is is not oppressing Student B. Similarly, it's one thing to opt-out of something for your own kid; it's another thing to try to ban all kids from that something.
Investigate what? They have said there are no credible claims. And the media hasn't been able to verify it directly with the person who first posted it. Do you really think media of any wing, left or right, would lay off something as sensational as pet-eating?
So there's also no way to verify what he said, yet conservatives are running with it as bona fide fact.
Why? Why wouldn't govt officials be raising Cain about this? Why would any media outlet pass on the opportunity to cover such a shocking, sensational story?
Whether it happened or not isn't important. What's important is that we're having the discussion.
Because it sheds light on Biden’s disastrous immigration policies. Whether or not pets are being killed, locals can no longer afford car insurance due it to being a high risk area now. Wages are suppressed due to the influx of unskilled, cheap labor. Crime has gone up. The quality of life has been diminished
Slow clap for your skepticism.
There's a reason "NIMBY" exists as an acronym. It exists on the right, as well. Are you saying Springfield, Ohio is liberal for allegedly opening their town to 20k Haitian immigrants? And then hypocritical for complaining about the consequences? For starters, that's ridiculous to think a decision made by the govt means the average rank-and-file citizen can't complain about it. Or that having a houseguest means you can't complain about them at the same time you host them. Also, Clark County, where Springfield is located, went 60% for President Trump in 2020, so the idea that they're liberal is pretty whack.
Same reasons the msm hasn’t given much coverage to the deaths of Laken Riley, the nursing student brutally murdered on the UGA campus, and many others raped and killed by illegals. I realize the Haitians are here legally thanks to Biden/ Harris
Immigration, and the tolerance of them, are bread and butter talking issues for the left. If they covered it honestly, then more people would see the major problem from it. As long as they can ignore it, it doesn't really exist, does it?
You weren't able to delete such a ridiculous post in time before it was read, huh? Or are you trolling us?
A quick search on the name Laken Riley brought back mentions on CNN, BBC, NYT, ABC, CBS, AP, NPR, and President Biden's SOTU address. So I ask again, why would any for-profit media outlet ignore a sensational, clickbait story?
The issue here is that you are once again assuming complete authority over honesty, this time wrt immigration.
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Increasing a town's population by a third in a relatively short period of time will create a lot of problems regardless. Why is this specifically a reflection on Biden-Harris immigration policy, which is the alleged reason MSM is ignoring this, as opposed to giving it exactly the amount of attention it deserves?
No, not complete authority over truths. But, with immigration, and the stories that have been covered, we do for sure know there's real issues with it.
It's ok for you to admit it Datt. We won't hold that against you.
I edited before seeing your reply, changing "truths" to "honesty."
And yes, you do claim complete authority on many issues. Anyone who disagrees with you is a liar and evil, not just someone with a different, and sometimes far more informed, opinion. You assumed in your last post that if MSM would cover an issue honestly -- ie, stop lying -- it would concur with what you claim is the truth.
I know this is a joke, but it is also an example of Elon Musk using the social media platform he owns to create news, not report news.
What news is he creating? And why is he obligated to report news?
Not true at all Datt, but nice way to try and divert. I'll say it again, immigration has been a story in the media. When the governors of Texas and Florida sent them away on a bus is a big one. The media HAD TO cover it. But, don't for a minute sit there and try to tell me the media covers immigration fairly, or even wants to discuss it.
They can't. You deny, but it's because they are told what to say, and talking negatively about immigration hurts the left.
We know the picture is frim a different time and place so why not call a spade a spade and accuse him of lying. It won’t be the first time someone lied about immigrant behavior to gin up angry at immigrants. For example… Donald Trump.
Just one point to note. The Haitians are not here illegally. They are in a separate category with temporary visas.
Actually, a deep dive into the numbers (see Brennan Center analysis) is that crime among undocumented immigrants has NOT risen sharpley. But you don’t hear thst from MSM. Rather they cover every story of some immigrant committing a crime and so skew our perception
A lot of them were here illegally. The current regime gave them temporary protective status after they illegally entered the country. And we know the intention was never for it to be temporary.
You clearly don’t bother to read any of the posts. Their legal status has been covered. They’re here in part due to the Whipping Hoax. That was a humdinger
I'm not against immigration. I totally understand why they want to come here. They should come in by the proper channels though. How would you like someone trying to come into your home by climbing through the window, versus knocking on your door?
Let's also not kid ourselves and say this topic is covered fairly, or for that matter, hardly at all.