The official having elderly parents can stink sometimes thread

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Even though I'm pretty far off, I would rather go to a retirement home/assisted living when I get to a certain age (not a nursing home, unless I'm in bad shape) than live with one of my kids, when the time comes. There seem to be a lot nicer places to wrap it up in now than there used to be. Hopefully I can play my financial cards right for when the time comes.

Waaay too many of my mom and dad's friends are selling their house and renting places so that they don't have to do maintenance on it. I get that part, but they're also draining their resources doing it and won't have much left when it comes time where they can't be on their own. If you're going to pay rent to somewhere, seems like it should be a place where you can have some help when you need it. JMO.


My mother is 88 and in an assisted living facility. It currently costs $4600/mo. She has been there for five years.

When my father passed away in 2014 his nursing home cost $9000/mo. He was there for a year and a half. The first 90 days were paid by medicare(yippee)

When previous generations took care of their parents, the entire extended family lived in the same town and the women did not work outside of the home.
 
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When previous generations took care of their parents, the entire extended family lived in the same town and the women did not work outside of the home.

Different situation overall. You typically died with the first really bad thing that happened to you back then. My grandfather had cancer when he was in his mid-80's. Almost took him out. Bounced back and lived another 10 years - most of it in very good health. Had it been 40 years ago, he probably wouldn't have survived the cancer.
 

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Some elderly people do smell bad.

Its part of the aging process.

What Causes Older Individuals to Smell Differently?
According to a study published by the Journal of Investigative Dermatology, an increase of nonenal is directly associated with aging. Nonenal is a chemical compound that is produced when omega-7 unsaturated fatty acids on the skin are degraded through oxidation. Around age 40 in both men and women, the skin begins producing more fatty acids its natural antioxidant defenses begin to deteriorate. Hormonal changes like menopause can contribute to this chemical process as well. As the skin grows weaker, its natural oils oxidize more quickly, producing nonenal. Because it isn’t water soluble, nonenal can remain on the skin despite thorough washing. Therefore, the smell persists on the body and on fabrics, even in extremely clean environments.


https://www.agingcare.com/articles/old-person-smell-174839.htm
 
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UKGrad93

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Its part of the aging process.

What Causes Older Individuals to Smell Differently?
According to a study published by the Journal of Investigative Dermatology, an increase of nonenal is directly associated with aging. Nonenal is a chemical compound that is produced when omega-7 unsaturated fatty acids on the skin are degraded through oxidation. Around age 40 in both men and women, the skin begins producing more fatty acids its natural antioxidant defenses begin to deteriorate. Hormonal changes like menopause can contribute to this chemical process as well. As the skin grows weaker, its natural oils oxidize more quickly, producing nonenal. Because it isn’t water soluble, nonenal can remain on the skin despite thorough washing. Therefore, the smell persists on the body and on fabrics, even in extremely clean environments.


https://www.agingcare.com/articles/old-person-smell-174839.htm
They are rotting.
 

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I hope that some day all of you see the following classic film:


Make Way for Tomorrow
is a 1937 American drama film directed by Leo McCarey. The plot concerns an elderly couple (Victor Moore and Beulah Bondi) who are forced to separate when they lose their house and none of their five children will take both parents.


Following is what some film experts think:

Orson Welles said of Make Way for Tomorrow, "It would make a stone cry,"[2] and rhapsodized about his enthusiasm for the film in his booklength series of interviews with Peter Bogdanovich, This Is Orson Welles.

In Newsweek magazine, famed documentary filmmaker Errol Morris named it his #1 film, stating "The most depressing movie ever made, providing reassurance that everything will definitely end badly."[3]

Roger Ebert added this film to his "Great Movies" list on February 11, 2010, writing:

"Make Way for Tomorrow" (1937) is a nearly-forgotten American film made in the Depression...The great final arc of "Make Way for Tomorrow" is beautiful and heartbreaking. It's easy to imagine it being sentimentalized by a studio executive, being made more upbeat for the audience. That's not McCarey. What happens is wonderful and very sad. Everything depends on the performances."[4]



The film is now part of the Criterion Collection, describing it as "...one of the great unsung Hollywood masterpieces, an enormously moving Depression-era depiction of the frustrations of family, aging, and the generation gap...Make Way for Tomorrow is among American cinema’s purest tearjerkers, all the way to its unflinching ending, which McCarey refused to change despite studio pressure.[5]



French director Jean Renoir once paid the great tribute of saying that "Leo McCarey understood people better than any other Hollywood director."[12]
 
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TortElvisII

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I hope that some day all of you see the following classic film:


Make Way for Tomorrow
is a 1937 American drama film directed by Leo McCarey. The plot concerns an elderly couple (Victor Moore and Beulah Bondi) who are forced to separate when they lose their house and none of their five children will take both parents.


Following is what some film experts think:

Orson Welles said of Make Way for Tomorrow, "It would make a stone cry,"[2] and rhapsodized about his enthusiasm for the film in his booklength series of interviews with Peter Bogdanovich, This Is Orson Welles.

In Newsweek magazine, famed documentary filmmaker Errol Morris named it his #1 film, stating "The most depressing movie ever made, providing reassurance that everything will definitely end badly."[3]

Roger Ebert added this film to his "Great Movies" list on February 11, 2010, writing:

"Make Way for Tomorrow" (1937) is a nearly-forgotten American film made in the Depression...The great final arc of "Make Way for Tomorrow" is beautiful and heartbreaking. It's easy to imagine it being sentimentalized by a studio executive, being made more upbeat for the audience. That's not McCarey. What happens is wonderful and very sad. Everything depends on the performances."[4]



The film is now part of the Criterion Collection, describing it as "...one of the great unsung Hollywood masterpieces, an enormously moving Depression-era depiction of the frustrations of family, aging, and the generation gap...Make Way for Tomorrow is among American cinema’s purest tearjerkers, all the way to its unflinching ending, which McCarey refused to change despite studio pressure.[5]



French director Jean Renoir once paid the great tribute of saying that "Leo McCarey understood people better than any other Hollywood director."[12]


Should we see it with Glenn?
 

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My parents are dead. Dad died in 1994 and Mom in 2003. I miss them both. I was with Dad when he died. I went home to get more clothes and Mom died before I could get back. I still miss both of them. Old folks can be a pain in the ***, but they can't help it. You will miss them when they are gone.
Good post. My mom died July 4th. I miss her terribly. Mother's Day and her birthday are both this month. It's going to be tough.
 

buster3.0

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I was just thinking about this last night. If my mom were to pass before my dad (they're both early 70s) I would have NO idea how to take care of him. Dude is on so much medicine and has like 2 dr. appointments a week. Top that off with early signs of dementia ... I guess every generation has to deal with this, but it's mine so it's the worst thing ever.

edit: love that they're both still here. Not everyone gets to have them around so long.

The answer is an assisted living center. The days of depressing nursing homes are a generation ago. The industry of senior care has boomed and the options of living and care they offer now are millions time better than existed even 20 years ago. It is expensive though. However, so is hiring an in-home care giver for him.
 
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AustinTXCat

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Thank you my brother. Want nothing but the best for you and your family
Thanks, bro. Honestly, I can't state enough great things about how much you've helped. I remember calling you back 3 years ago when mom visited us here in ATX. It was a nightmare, and nearly drove the wife and I totally insane.

I'll never wish caregiving of dementia patients on anyone. You really helped us above and beyond the call of duty. Mom is still at Consolate on Lake Parker, last I heard, with a feeding tube in her stomach. Ha ha, perhaps I'll be able to practice my español with her roommate again come next month.

Seriously, thanks again, bro.
 
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Dealing with mom now, and have been for nearly 4 years. @Willy4UK has been the best friend and advisor through all of this anyone could ever wish. My brother, @Willy4UK , truly advised my brothers and I on how to cope and deal with the madness of dementia.

Sad... he posts on here a lot. I know he seems off, but I never realized it was because of dementia.
 

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My mom finally succumbed to Alzheimer's at the age of 89. I was her caregiver and kept her living independently up until the last year when she got to the point that she needed around the clock care. I was really lucky in that she wasn't a "roamer", and that played the biggest part in her being able to live independently. It ran me ragged most of the time, but it was worth it to see her still have her own place for at least a couple of years.

It was frustrating dealing with her sometimes, but could be funny as hell too. I couldn't get her to let me fix her supper or go pick her up something one day when she was in one of her bad moods. She kept telling me that she didn't need to eat, and that she hadn't ate anything in weeks. I finally gave up and headed home. I got about halfway home, started to call my wife to see if I needed to pick anything up, but had left my phone over at my mom's, so I went back. I walked in and mom had a loaf of bread, jar of peanut butter and a banana out, making a sandwich. The look on her face when she saw me probably wouldn't have been any different if I had walked in and caught her rolling a bomber joint. I didn't make a big deal of it, but I just said "you change your mind about something to eat?"....she said NO! I said, well, you're making a sammidge....NO I'M NOT! I just wanted to see what I had. I'm not eating it! [laughing]
 

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Thanks, bro. Honestly, I can't state enough great things about how much you've helped. I remember calling you back 3 years ago when mom visited us here in ATX. It was a nightmare, and nearly drove the wife and I totally insane.

I'll never wish caregiving of dementia patients on anyone. You really helped us above and beyond the call of duty. Mom is still at Consolate on Lake Parker, last I heard, with a feeding tube in her stomach. Ha ha, perhaps I'll be able to practice my español with her roommate again come next month.

Seriously, thanks again, bro.

Very kind words man. Appreciate it. It's a nasty disease. Maybe the worst of the bunch. Can't wait to drink a few eith you. Got that Hunnapu bomber saved for you
 

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When I was in college my mom had a stroke that messed with short term memory. Like she couldn't remember anything from that day on, was always asking how school was for years.
Dealing with the same with my uncle atm. His kids aren't around and I'm 10 minutes away. You answer a question, like date of a VA appointment, and 30 minutes later he will ask it again.
I know it frustrates him and his wife.
Compounded by damn scammers been mailing or calling him , saying to send money or he will lose social security benefits.
 

AustinTXCat

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Very kind words man. Appreciate it. It's a nasty disease. Maybe the worst of the bunch. Can't wait to drink a few eith you. Got that Hunnapu bomber saved for you
Bro, true story, I'm working on a CASE of Texas beers for you.

JR called tonight. Perhaps we'll meet up mid-week June 18-22. JR told me tonight he'd give me a ride down to Tampa on June 24 when I fly back.

Hell, it's been a trip. We've linked up in Orlando, Lakeland, Austin TX, and Lexington, KY over the years. Totally beyond belief.