The only way this works is with martial law.

[IndyCat1995]

Hell no I don't want it. And I don't believe it will happen, but unless people are literally made to stay home by force, these "stay at home orders" are useless. Not sure if things are different in KY, I know that Beshear has been pretty proactive about all this. Here in Indiana you can literally go anywhere. State parks are still open, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Outside of maybe New York, I'm sure you can travel at your leisure most other places as well. State governments say not to leave, and sure plenty of folks abide, but at the same time many do not. If I was stopped by the police and questioned about where I was going I could just say I'm going to Kroger.

The only way this works is if the police are sitting outside your neighborhood stopping folks from coming in and leaving. And if we get to that point, I'm afraid things may get ugly.

 

[GYERater]

I've been sitting at home for 2 weeks yet the state just had triple the new cases of a normal day. Is that because more tests were processed? Or is that because people arent listening to shelter at home orders? At this point I dont know, but as someone who follows the suggestions I would be fine if this were enforced more either with the National Guard or whatever if that gets me out of the house quicker.

 

[-Mav-]

Marital law is always in effect, amirite married guys?

 

[Bigtyrone]

Re: Indiana vs Kentucky. When I'm driving in Kentucky, I use the ashtray in my car. When I'm forced to go to Indiana, which is always an unfortunate event, I throw cigarette butts out the window.

 

[Punkin Puss]

Hell no I don't want it. And I don't believe it will happen, but unless people are literally made to stay home by force, these "stay at home orders" are useless. Not sure if things are different in KY, I know that Beshear has been pretty proactive about all this. Here in Indiana you can literally go anywhere. State parks are still open, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Outside of maybe New York, I'm sure you can travel at your leisure most other places as well. State governments say not to leave, and sure plenty of folks abide, but at the same time many do not. If I was stopped by the police and questioned about where I was going I could just say I'm going to Kroger.

The only way this works is if the police are sitting outside your neighborhood stopping folks from coming in and leaving. And if we get to that point, I'm afraid things may get ugly.

Parks are closed. They had to take down basketball goals, tennis court nets cause people we gathering. Places like Home Depot and Lowe's have been the worst, sure with the Honey-do-lists.
They need to limit it to one person shopping in the grocery stores. Not have a family of 6 in the produce isle picking up and putting back stuff.

 

[JohnBlue]

Hell no I don't want it. And I don't believe it will happen, but unless people are literally made to stay home by force, these "stay at home orders" are useless. Not sure if things are different in KY, I know that Beshear has been pretty proactive about all this. Here in Indiana you can literally go anywhere. State parks are still open, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Outside of maybe New York, I'm sure you can travel at your leisure most other places as well. State governments say not to leave, and sure plenty of folks abide, but at the same time many do not. If I was stopped by the police and questioned about where I was going I could just say I'm going to Kroger.

The only way this works is if the police are sitting outside your neighborhood stopping folks from coming in and leaving. And if we get to that point, I'm afraid things may get ugly.

I'm sure there is some kind of standard that would have to be met before a state could do that. Not sure a bunch of people doing legal things would cross that threshold though.

It's also not going to happen because the math tells you that there is no where near enough law enforcement to pull it off, even if they had the national guard helping them.

You list of things open with the exception of state parks were things that can't close. You can't stop food to people. Get rid of the doctors and 10% might die, get of rid food and 100% will die.

Look at it this way for a moment.... the only people that not following the guidelines can effect are only those not following the guidelines. If you are, it's really impossible for you to become infected.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

Parks are closed. They had to take down basketball goals, tennis court nets cause people we gathering. Places like Home Depot and Lowe's have been the worst, sure with the Honey-do-lists.
They need to limit it to one person shopping in the grocery stores. Not have a family of 6 in the produce isle picking up and putting back stuff.

My son is working at a grocery while in school. He said they're telling people to plan ahead and do the grocery pick up like click list. It keeps more people out of the store and away from them, as well as away from your groceries. He said they are constantly cleaning to keep from spreading it on the packaging, etc.

 

[Bigtyrone]

Parks are closed. They had to take down basketball goals, tennis court nets cause people we gathering. Places like Home Depot and Lowe's have been the worst, sure with the Honey-do-lists.
They need to limit it to one person shopping in the grocery stores. Not have a family of 6 in the produce isle picking up and putting back stuff.

I get closing down the playgrounds, basketball courts and anywhere else people congregate. But I have a 12 year old and crazy dog who are both bouncing off the damn walls. We went for a hike in Cherokee Park the other day and will continue to do that since you rarely encounter people on the trails. And if you do, one person / group or the other just steps a few feet off the path.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Marital law is always in effect, amirite married guys?

Agreed, bro. Be prepared.

 

[shockdaddy19]

I’ve actually been pretty impressed with how Kentucky residents have responded to the “healthy in home” order. I’ve heard about Home Depot and Lowe’s, but I haven’t been there. I have been to both Kroger and Target for groceries and haven’t thought the crowds have been bad at all.

I don’t believe martial law will happen. I’m in pretty regular contact with someone on the Upper East side of NYC and they aren’t worried there either. And if you’re not seeing it in NYC, Cali, Philly yet, you won’t see it here.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

That's why the sooner we get back to normal life the better. Of course the democrats are fascists and want martial law as well as the destruction of this economy, which is why you're seeing draconian and unprecedented restrictions on our freedom. It won't be tolerated for long and it's already not being tolerated. It also makes no sense as you pointed out because people are allowed to go to things that are open. And a lot of things are open

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

Agreed, bro. Be prepared.

Wish I was an inseam

 

[bluthruandthru]

If I were an inseam,
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
All-day long I'd biddy biddy bum.
If I were an inseam.
I wouldn't have to work hard.
Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.
If I were a biddy biddy in,
Yidle-diddle-diddle-diddle seam.

 

[Bigtyrone]

That's why the sooner we get back to normal life the better. Of course the democrats are fascists and want martial law as well as the destruction of this economy, which is why you're seeing draconian and unprecedented restrictions on our freedom. It won't be tolerated for long and it's already not being tolerated. It also makes no sense as you pointed out because people are allowed to go to things that are open. And a lot of things are open

[roll]

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

[roll]

it's true if the country was really shut down you would have nothing. You'd have anarchy. Right now you have recession which is bad enough

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

Hell no I don't want it. And I don't believe it will happen, but unless people are literally made to stay home by force, these "stay at home orders" are useless. Not sure if things are different in KY, I know that Beshear has been pretty proactive about all this. Here in Indiana you can literally go anywhere. State parks are still open, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Outside of maybe New York, I'm sure you can travel at your leisure most other places as well. State governments say not to leave, and sure plenty of folks abide, but at the same time many do not. If I was stopped by the police and questioned about where I was going I could just say I'm going to Kroger.

The only way this works is if the police are sitting outside your neighborhood stopping folks from coming in and leaving. And if we get to that point, I'm afraid things may get ugly.

Just because it’s not 100% effective doesn’t make it useless.

 

[Pulaski Cat Fan_rivals377587]

My son is working at a grocery while in school. He said they're telling people to plan ahead and do the grocery pick up like click list. It keeps more people out of the store and away from them, as well as away from your groceries. He said they are constantly cleaning to keep from spreading it on the packaging, etc.

A person has to do it in advance. I done a clicklist on Friday and could not get till Tuesday. Monday night I get a text saying the list of items they couldn't fill, one being a 12 roll of toilet paper. Clicklist won't keep up with the demand if this drags on too long.

 

[Bigtyrone]

We did Clicklist last week and only had about 3/4 of the items filled.

 

[Pulaski Cat Fan_rivals377587]

We did Clicklist last week and only had about 3/4 of the items filled.

How long did you have to wait?

 

[Bigtyrone]

I think it was 3 days, maybe 4.

 

[dgtatu01]

Hell no I don't want it. And I don't believe it will happen, but unless people are literally made to stay home by force, these "stay at home orders" are useless. Not sure if things are different in KY, I know that Beshear has been pretty proactive about all this. Here in Indiana you can literally go anywhere. State parks are still open, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Outside of maybe New York, I'm sure you can travel at your leisure most other places as well. State governments say not to leave, and sure plenty of folks abide, but at the same time many do not. If I was stopped by the police and questioned about where I was going I could just say I'm going to Kroger.

The only way this works is if the police are sitting outside your neighborhood stopping folks from coming in and leaving. And if we get to that point, I'm afraid things may get ugly.

Every additional person that stays home helps. The ones that aren't listening will be the most likely to contract the virus and then they will join rank. It's going to play out like it play's out. Try not to hate on people too much. They're hard headed and ignorant and some of then can't help it.

 

[AirRaidFreshman76]

Every additional person that stays home helps. The ones that aren't listening will be the most likely to contract the virus and then they will join rank. It's going to play out like it play's out. Try not to hate on people too much. They're hard headed and ignorant and some of then can't help it.

I've been working for months and I'm just fine and so is everyone I know. We've been taken for a ride here it's gonna become more obvious by the day and people are gonna be furious. They already are. We're basically living in east Germany right now

 

[IndyCat1995]

Parks are closed. They had to take down basketball goals, tennis court nets cause people we gathering. Places like Home Depot and Lowe's have been the worst, sure with the Honey-do-lists.
They need to limit it to one person shopping in the grocery stores. Not have a family of 6 in the produce isle picking up and putting back stuff.

Everything is open here, at least in my area. I drove by the park the other day and at least 10 kids were shooting hoops

 

[Pulaski Cat Fan_rivals377587]

I think it was 3 days, maybe 4.

That's how it is in Somerset. 3 weeks ago it started getting bad. Used to if you placed the order early in day , you could get it that evening, but the wait was 2 days then, didn't even have toilet paper then. I was talking to the guy who loaded me up, and he told me then that they was only allowed to do 12 orders an hour. That's nowhere near enough to meet demand, especially if there is a great increase of people using it.

 

[bigsmoothie]

That's why the sooner we get back to normal life the better. Of course the democrats are fascists and want martial law as well as the destruction of this economy, which is why you're seeing draconian and unprecedented restrictions on our freedom. It won't be tolerated for long and it's already not being tolerated. It also makes no sense as you pointed out because people are allowed to go to things that are open. And a lot of things are open

You are either running a troll job, which I think is true, or the craziest person I have ever seen post on here. And that’s saying something.

 

[bluthruandthru]

I've been working for months and I'm just fine and so is everyone I know. We've been taken for a ride here it's gonna become more obvious by the day and people are gonna be furious. They already are. We're basically living in east Germany right now

There's definitely something basic going on.

Keep on keepin' on, Frosh.

 

[Punkin Puss]

My son is working at a grocery while in school. He said they're telling people to plan ahead and do the grocery pick up like click list. It keeps more people out of the store and away from them, as well as away from your groceries. He said they are constantly cleaning to keep from spreading it on the packaging, etc.

I hope your kid stays safe, they really deserve some hazard pay.

Stores may want to do like Aldi's and put fresh produce in plastic bags.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

A person has to do it in advance. I done a clicklist on Friday and could not get till Tuesday. Monday night I get a text saying the list of items they couldn't fill, one being a 12 roll of toilet paper. Clicklist won't keep up with the demand if this drags on too long.

Without walk in shopping they would be able to devote much more staff to click list and meet more demand. I personally don't like it but I can see that it would be safer for everyone involved.

 

[WildcatofNati]

Hell no I don't want it. And I don't believe it will happen, but unless people are literally made to stay home by force, these "stay at home orders" are useless. Not sure if things are different in KY, I know that Beshear has been pretty proactive about all this. Here in Indiana you can literally go anywhere. State parks are still open, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Outside of maybe New York, I'm sure you can travel at your leisure most other places as well. State governments say not to leave, and sure plenty of folks abide, but at the same time many do not. If I was stopped by the police and questioned about where I was going I could just say I'm going to Kroger.

The only way this works is if the police are sitting outside your neighborhood stopping folks from coming in and leaving. And if we get to that point, I'm afraid things may get ugly.

Grocery stores better stay open. Starvation would quickly make the coronavirus look like the Black Plague and eventually would become the Black Plague in its own right. I'd say that 100,000 dead from the coronavirus is probably better than about 325 million dead from starvation- I do suppose farmers and those with a very productive garden would still survive.

 

[Punkin Puss]

I get closing down the playgrounds, basketball courts and anywhere else people congregate. But I have a 12 year old and crazy dog who are both bouncing off the damn walls. We went for a hike in Cherokee Park the other day and will continue to do that since you rarely encounter people on the trails. And if you do, one person / group or the other just steps a few feet off the path.

They should and I believe are keeping trails open for most part. The Red River Gorge/ Daniel Boone Forest is shut down.

State Parks such as Blue Licks shut the gift shops, restaurant and museum, but other wise allowing visitors.
https://parks.ky.gov/covid-19-information

Wish they would allow free fishing during this time to encourage people to safely get out of the house. Also for people to have available a food source.

 

[Pulaski Cat Fan_rivals377587]

Without walk in shopping they would be able to devote much more staff to click list and meet more demand. I personally don't like it but I can see that it would be safer for everyone involved.

You're right.

 

[Bigtyrone]

They should and I believe are keeping trails open for most part. The Red River Gorge/ Daniel Boone Forest is shut down.

State Parks such as Blue Licks shut the gift shops, restaurant and museum, but other wise allowing visitors.
https://parks.ky.gov/covid-19-information

Wish they would allow free fishing during this time to encourage people to safely get out of the house. Also for people to have available a food source.

I was thinking more about the parks in Louisville, but that's all great to know. We may hit Bernheim again soon. We just won't be climbing all over the wooden goblins this time!

Do you mean fishing without a license? I would hope no one actually gets messed with over that while the zombie contagion is going on.

 

[Punkin Puss]

I was thinking more about the parks in Louisville, but that's all great to know. We may hit Bernheim again soon. We just won't be climbing all over the wooden goblins this time!

Do you mean fishing without a license? I would hope no one actually gets messed with over that while the zombie contagion is going on.

Yeah like how they have a free fishing day usually in June. Let people have a grace period during this time. Promote people to go outdoors while social distanced and fish with the kids. People may like it and buy a license after this crap eases up.
Think there's a nice trout stream outside L'ville...Otter Creek?

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Lol you cant close gas stations. Are healthcare workers supposed to teleport to the hospital?

You cant shut everything down anyway...but that doesnt mean things arent working. Which someone already said

 

[The-Hack]

Just because it’s not 100% effective doesn’t make it useless.

None of these measures are intended to be 100 percent effective at stopping the virus. They are intended to slow the virus to avoid a spike that would overwhelm the health care system.

 

[bigsmoothie]

None of these measures are intended to be 100 percent effective at stopping the virus. They are intended to slow the virus to avoid a spike that would overwhelm the health care system.

Perfectly said

 

[The-Hack]

I do suppose farmers and those with a very productive garden would still survive.

Not only are grocery stores open, but stockyards, slaughter houses, feed supply and all businesses in the food chain.

Farm fuel prices are the lowest they have been for two decades at planting time, and farm activities continue apace.

Still, everyone who can should be raising a garden!

 

[WildcatofNati]

Not only are grocery stores open, but stockyards, slaughter houses, feed supply and all businesses in the food chain.

Farm fuel prices are the lowest they have been for two decades at planting time, and farm activities continue apace.

Still, everyone who can should be raising a garden!

My mom has a garden, so, as if the OP implicitly advocates for, the food at the grocery stores is cut off, I could move back home and at least live on whatever her modest garden would provide. I guess I could also find a good spot for hunting and fishing in that scenario as well. As it is, my hope is that I can still go to the store to buy food, taking my chances on the corona when I go.

 

[The-Hack]

My mom has a garden, so, as if the OP implicitly advocates for, the food at the grocery stores is cut off, I could move back home and at least live on whatever her modest garden would provide.

Perhaps you have a place to do the same. The grocery stores aren’t going to close unless there are no groceries to sell. There will be groceries, at no end.

We have over 100 million cattle on the hoof in the US with tens of millions devoted to calf production, many of the older of which could be processed if there was dire need.

Empty shelves at groceries was caused by panic buying and hoarding, not by any credible threat either to the chain of production or delivery of essential goods.

In farm country, our local convenience stores never ran out of toilet paper, milk, hamburger, etc., because of simple confidence in the production system.

Frightened suburbanites might find some relief to their stress by picking an ear of corn that they grew in their side yard.

 

[dgtatu01]

I've been working for months and I'm just fine and so is everyone I know. We've been taken for a ride here it's gonna become more obvious by the day and people are gonna be furious. They already are. We're basically living in east Germany right now

Thanks for doing your part, you're a real patriot!!