The People vs OJ Simpson

Louis_Skunt

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Thoughts?
I was impressed with how things happened, how close he was to killing himself and what a mess Fay Resnick is. Also, I remember OJ talking about what a sex kitten Nicole was. Resnick made it sound like she was very popular, and how she loved giving guys a "A brentwood welcome".

Bottom line, sounds like a miserable relationship. They both cheated, he beat her up multiple times, then nearly took her head off at the end.

Its just amazing how you can get away with murder if you have enough money. How he was acquitted is one of the biggest upsets in my lifetime.
 

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I think its the best show on TV right now. Then again, I've never been into any of that American Idol, or Bachelor, or any other of those young person shows.
 

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Shapiro knew he killed her, and didn't feel like it was winnable. Great signature, by the way. best I've seen.

Haven't seen the show but if my memory serves me correctly Shapiro's reaction as the 'not guilty' verdicts were read was beyond priceless back in the day.
 
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The Prosecution made so many mistakes Marsha Clark should of been disbarred after this case. OJ had the best legal team in the history of this country, but the prosecution folded like a cheap suit.
Have you watched the series? I haven't seen any obvious mistakes made by Marcia yet, am I missing something?
 

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I was unaware Shapiro wanted him to make a deal for manslaughter

Yeah, he's a terrible criminal defense attorney. Never willing to try a case, always looking for a way out, actually giving a **** if his client is guilty, etc. The list goes on and on.

Seriously, this prick gave a press conference after OJ fled in the Bronco just to make sure that everyone knew that he had nothing to do with it. "This has never happened to me before! It's all his fault!"

Way to make your client look guilty as hell, you POS.
 

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Yeah, you POS.... I know you murdered your wife and her boyfriend, but I refuse to look like I have morals.
 

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Have you watched the series? I haven't seen any obvious mistakes made by Marcia yet, am I missing something?

start with the Jury selection. the jury selection specialist told marsha clark to avoid black females whereas marsha clark thought she needed black females. marsha clark listened to no one around her. but seriously no one will ever forget the prosecution allowing OJ to wear vinyl gloves while trying on the leather gloves he supposedly wore the night of the murder. she was such a dummy.

OJ was guilty as heck, it didn't take a rocket scientist to put his butt in jail forever.
 

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Yeah, he's a terrible criminal defense attorney. Never willing to try a case, always looking for a way out, actually giving a **** if his client is guilty, etc. The list goes on and on.

Seriously, this prick gave a press conference after OJ fled in the Bronco just to make sure that everyone knew that he had nothing to do with it. "This has never happened to me before! It's all his fault!"

Way to make your client look guilty as hell, you POS.

Well, in his defense, he may not have anticipated a jury completely ignoring the facts of the case to "stick it to the man" for all the years of whitey being mean.
 
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Have you watched the series? I haven't seen any obvious mistakes made by Marcia yet, am I missing something?
The prosecution was terrible, they didn't even present several things in the trial..I won't get into all of them because it hasnt came about in the show yet..but the police interview where oj cut his finger and he couldn't explain it....she didn't even use that.

Also, it's also funny people claim his defense was a "dream team". I don't think Shapiro had even did a murder trial before that, and Cochran was a civil defense attorney.
 
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Well, in his defense, he may not have anticipated a jury completely ignoring the facts of the case to "stick it to the man" for all the years of whitey being mean.

No. He was OJ's criminal defense attorney, and he was paid extremely well. He's supposed to put his client's interests above all else. There's no excuse for the way he handled himself.

Shapiro obviously understood the racial component of the case. He gave the interview to the New Yorker that started the narrative. He just didn't have the ability or the willingness to get the job done. And then he acted like a child when the other members of the team took control and did their jobs.

There's really no defending his incompetence. Stick to Legal Zoom, Bob.
 

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Yeah, you POS.... I know you murdered your wife and her boyfriend, but I refuse to look like I have morals.

You don't understand the role of a criminal defense attorney.

If you were in OJ's position, would you expect the guy you're paying millions to defend you to throw you under the bus at literally the very first opportunity? Would you think you were getting your money's worth?

I know it's a difficult thing to accept, but everyone deserves a defense no matter how guilty they may be. Bob Shapiro was paid handsomely to perform that service, and he handled it about as poorly as possible. That's just the truth.
 
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Cochran was a civil defense attorney.

Not really. He was actually a plaintiff's attorney and one of the most feared trial lawyers in the country. The other members of the Dream Team aside, it's definitely not accurate to imply that Johnny was some kind of slouch when he got involved in the case.
 
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The over-acting in the series is absolutely atrocious. My God, Travolta, Shwimmer, and Gooding Jr make Berkley's Showgirls look like an Oscar-worthy performance. Dropping the Kardashian children all over the series gives it all the credibility of the Sharknado series.

The Goldman and Brown families have to be losing their collective ish's

I watch it every week.
 

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I have it taped but have not started. Is it worth it? I just text a friend yesterday seeing if he had watched and if so, worth watching or just to delete?
 

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it's definitely worth watching... there's a lot of good tv nowadays though so I guess it really comes down to how much tv time you have.

i actually enjoy the over acting and some of the over the top scenes as it was all just as surreal when it was happneing in reality even
 

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Though it apparently legal to redecorate OJ's home before the Jurors came to view it and I think it was a brillant move,it just seems odd that is legal.
 

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Enjoying it so far. They did a great job casting Marcia Clark, Chris Darden, and Johnnie Cochrane. Not so much with OJ.
 

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Enjoying it so far. They did a great job casting Marcia Clark, Chris Darden, and Johnnie Cochrane. Not so much with OJ.

Agreed, some great casting. Travolta is great, Schwimmer is good... hell, I am enjoying the hell out of Nathan Lane. A lot of fun to see the behind the scenes stuff that I missed when the real thing happened. Pretty well done show, although I could do without the forced Kardashian girls references... a little too "wink wink" for me.
 

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The Prosecution made so many mistakes Marsha Clark should of been disbarred after this case. OJ had the best legal team in the history of this country, but the prosecution folded like a cheap suit.


With that jury Adolph Hitler could have walked.
 

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Though it apparently legal to redecorate OJ's home before the Jurors came to view it and I think it was a brillant move,it just seems odd that is legal.

The entire idea of the jury visiting his house is crazy. It literally never happens in actual trials.
 

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The prosecution was terrible, they didn't even present several things in the trial..I won't get into all of them because it hasnt came about in the show yet..but the police interview where oj cut his finger and he couldn't explain it....she didn't even use that.

Also, it's also funny people claim his defense was a "dream team". I don't think Shapiro had even did a murder trial before that, and Cochran was a civil defense attorney.

They DID mention that his finger was cut. They also introduced DNA evidence of OJ at the scene. I think I remember them saying that the DNA proved it was one of 5 billion people. OJ was that person. The black brains that matter on the jury thought the DNA was mixed up because there were 3 different samples found and it was therefore inconclusive.

OJ did not go free because the prosecution was weak. That is an ignorant view, wanton or otherwise.
 

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The entire idea of the jury visiting his house is crazy. It literally never happens in actual trials.

Crazy, yes. But it did happen in this one. Ito had no control and let the whole thing become a circus, IMO.
 

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Crazy, yes. But it did happen in this one. Ito had no control and let the whole thing become a circus, IMO.

Yep. You have to put part of the blame on Marsha, though. I've never seen a prosecutor allow a trial to get this far afield. Ito should've reigned it in, but I'm sure it would've been easier for him had the state pushed back.

A pitiful performance by quite a few different parties, no doubt about it.
 

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Anyone notice the director on the last one? John Singleton, of Boyz in the Hood fame. Interesting, for episode called "The Race Card," right?
 

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Has the "white guilt" blinded you people? He was allowed to go free because there were black people on the jury that were getting retribution for Rodney King. Simple as that. Come up with all the ancillary reasons you want, truth is truth.
 
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I finished it last Wednesday. I liked the end where Kardashian dropped his bible on OJ's table then walked out. I wonder why though.
 

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I finished it last Wednesday. I liked the end where Kardashian dropped his bible on OJ's table then walked out. I wonder why though.
He didn't want anything to do with something that helped OJ.

Yeah, I loved the show. Its probably the only thing I've ever watched where I knew the ending, but was still nervous as a chiuhauhau in a car. I can't imagine how crushed Marcia Clark and Darden were after the acquittal.