I know of at least 15 healthcare workers who don’t want it. 10 of them are relatives and extended family.
The virus, the vaccine and college basketball
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You know, I do not care what you do for a living. I hope it is something you enjoy and that supports your family. You were the one that wanted me to enjoy my life in the basement. I was just stating a fact that preliminary research shows that the virus has caused some cardio issues. Is that the case with Keyone? I don’t know, I guarantee you that is where they will start. Players that have asthma and get the virus are having issues as well. Everybody is going to believe what they want to believe and that’s fine. My whole premise to the original post was just a “what if” a particular team got vaccinated. The fact that you made it personal and felt the need for name calling is on you. I have once again realized why I stay away from these boards. The joy and excitement of being a Kentucky sports fan just oozes from this board.
This seems like a total flip out of a response. Maybe I have missed something, but I didn't see that poster say anything about shutting down the country or any of that. Why attack a guy who merely suggested that there were reports that the collapse was from complications from the virus? Just for good measure, I watched a 25 year old ex-football player get buried last week from complications from the virus. While it may not affect those college age athletes the same way as the elderly, it can still affect them. My wife had to put a 20 year old on the vent this week, and her best friend and college roommate is dangerously close to going on one as well at 38.
While I am not one to say shut everything down, I am one that says some people need to take it a little more seriously than they do. But to each his own. Just because you disagree with someone's stance doesn't mean you have to attack them, which I see all too often on here.
As to the original question, by the time the late season arrives, the athletes of most sports are likely going to have the opportunity to get vaccinated. Probably won't happen for a couple of months, but likely by March. The frontline workers should have the first opportunity at that, followed by the highest risk people, but then when you are down to the general public, it will likely go by exposure, and these athletes would be more at exposure than most of the general public through transportation and performances.
I hope the team gets vaccinated soon though, this social distancing they are practicing on defense is causing major problems.
The government did not put it together. And what it really tells us is that drug development and approval in the USA is way too tied up in bureaucracy and that is why we pay so much more for drugs or at least the excuse used by big PHARMA.
Am glad my parents didnt feel the same about polio, and small pox vaccines As some of you and vaccines.
Well then we read it differently. There’s nothing cool about a supposed medical professional arrogantly writing off people and expressing his enjoyment in his basement with his family while the country is in chaos. Then to say he’d help me anyway in a sarcastic tone?
That’s not a medical person I’d be okay with. To each their own.
Btw, these players shouldn’t be playing basketball right now. If people aren’t able to work, they shouldn’t play. And while we’re at it, athletes from this point on should receive no scholarship and if they want to go to college should be paying their own way.
100 percent Wrong. Depends on the individual's immune response. This is a deadly virus for some people period. It also is exhibiting some nasty long term effects on young healthy people.
It’s a bit early to say there is or isn’t a link when no one with any medical knowledge of his specific situation has publicly released any information about what happened and what the cause or causes are.
People in other countries pay less for the exact same drugs as we do. It’s not the process that’s the problem, it’s allowing the drug makers to charge a fortune to Americans because our healthcare system is trash if you don’t have good to great employer provided health insurance, or if you are fairly wealthy and can pay for great coverage with an independent policy. Can’t get good to great health insurance? Well let’s hope you don’t get sick or develop any long term health complications because then you’re ******.
You need 4 polio vaccines to do you your whole life and only need a smallpox booster every 3 years if you actually work in labs with the virus. No booster for everyone else unless there’s a breakout. It’s not even known how long the covid vaccine protects you for and it possibly only stops the effects of the virus, not the virus itself. You may still be able to get it and pass it. It may last 3 months, 3 years, or forever. It’s nothing like the polio or smallpox vaccinations. You’ll have to forgive those of us who want to see more data before buying in.
That’s the point. There’s no need to speculate yet when we’ve seen similar things happen to athletes well before the virus was around.
There is so much crap information and flat earth reasoning in the thread it is an embarrassment to the State of Kentucky.
First, no way in hell does any vaccine get diverted to the team. If an eligible person declines, it goes to the next targeted.
Second, if you pass up the vaccine, you are stupid. Just a fact of life. You are entitled to be stupid and the fact you can refuse it proves it.
Third, the government had nothing to do with the vaccine development save perhaps pouring money in the hopper.
Stop giving outsiders ammunition that promotes the backwards stereotype. At least pretend you can read and understand a bit of solid current research.
First, no way in hell does any vaccine get diverted to the team. If an eligible person declines, it goes to the next targeted.
Second, if you pass up the vaccine, you are stupid. Just a fact of life. You are entitled to be stupid and the fact you can refuse it proves it.
Third, the government had nothing to do with the vaccine development save perhaps pouring money in the hopper.
Stop giving outsiders ammunition that promotes the backwards stereotype. At least pretend you can read and understand a bit of solid current research.
Or you could say thanks to people who have seen more people die alone in their care by basically suffocating to death over the last 9 months than all of their previous years combined. And they see this as a light at the end of the tunnel to a brutal 9 months.
No way that dude is a doctor. He has extremely poor reading comprehension and doesn't have any idea what a preliminary report is.
I seriously doubt it would matter. The COVID restrictions will remain in place for most of next year regardless of if you have had the vaccine or not.
No, I am just the only person that is wondering if COVID and the collapse have an commonalities.
I totally agree with you in that if people can't work.. athletes shouldn't be playing. The rank hypocrisy running rampant in so much of society today is beginning to cause some serious anger issues.
That whole side thinks they are more intelligent and a higher class of people. Elitism at its finest and they can’t even see it.
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So can the common cold.
Go hide in your basement too.
Moving the goal post...nice.
Your original post insinuated that Johnson’s collapse was related to COVID.
Not that it may could have possibly just maybe by happenstance be connected because COVID can have lingering enlargement of the heart. That is exactly the type of jumping to conclusions that plagues our media today. Maybe you’re an entertainment “journalist” and not a doctor. A medical doctor would be more hesitant to make such broad sweeping generalizations and connections without proof
All we know at this point is he had a serious medical incident and that it isn’t the first time an athlete (thought to be healthy) suddenly collapsed or even died.
These players already receive heart scans if they have been positive before they can return. If his heart was still enlarged they would have known and released that already.
If you are in the medical field, my guess is that it isn’t a doctor and is a lower level of health care personnel but you believe that elevates your opinion.
You weren’t “wondering”. You made a statement heavily implying it was the cause and “preliminary reports” are point to that. No. Media members speculating Bc it gets hits has jumped to say that could be a connection.
Don’t completely disagree but the government did have a role in helping circumvent our normal timelines and procedures to get vaccines approved in this country, allowing it to be available and distributed sooner.
Both my parents made it out of the hospital without having to be intubated. I spoke with my doc yesterday and ill be one of the first people in phase 3 that gets the vaccine from UT Tyler. She thinks people like me will be getting ours in February.
Please continue to take this seriously.
Please continue to take this seriously.
The beauty of the current vaccines is that the immune response is to an agent that is not the virus, but draws the body’s response to the virus, then vanishes. No chance for a viral infection. An amazing work of science.
True enough. This is the reason why I was careful to say development. The government was not involved with the hard work of development. Expedited meetings for approval, streamlined distribution channels, yes the government played a role. Development and testing was all traditional and hardcore.
I was wondering because I deal with it everyday in my job and research. If a kid had COVID and then collapses, I want to know if there is a correlation. Just like studying the impacts of COVID on certain blood types and other conditions. If I wasn't clear in my thoughts, I apologize. But, when a kid collapses it is cause for major concern. I was just pointing out that I am sure his medical team is looking into those factors as well. It all stemmed from a post saying that the virus doesn't have an impact of young athletes. If you want to see the research on the impact it has on athletes that have asthma, I would be happy to send it you.
No basement for me. Just put on a mask and follow the science.
If all the covidiots like you had listened to the scientists instead of President IQ-Two we wouldn't be going to virtual funerals right now for all the Covid deaths.
Don't hurt yourself virtue signaling or patting yourself on the back. Being an arrogant douche is contagious though. Hope your family doesn't catch it.
Only 70 hours, must be nice to get that much time off. Being a condescending richard must take up the rest of your time.
You sure you have time? I figured making sure everyone knows what a hero you are woudn't leave yout time for us rednecks.
Did you read the article you posted? It doesn't say he collapsed due to heart complications from the virus. It simply says he and others from the team tested positive for the virus earlier and that one complication from the virus can be heart issues. That is a far cry from actually linking his collapse to the virus.
Anyone who takes this poisonous garbage is an absolute ignorant, naive imbecile! That’s All.
But, to each his own
Oh Good Lord. Everything is Covid related. [eyeroll]
The best thing about having a vaccination available is having some additional protection from all those who seem determined to show their allegiance to their dear leader by getting covid. At least now they are mainly going to be killing themselves and not us. And by "us" I mean people who live in the real world of objective reality.
Tell that to this young news personality from WAVE3 in Louisville....Anyone who takes this poisonous garbage is an absolute ignorant, naive imbecile! That’s All.
But, to each his own
Lauren Jones: (Facebook post)
MY COVID-19 JOURNEY 32 days out, and I wish I could say today was a breath of fresh air, but it wasn’t. My alarm went off at 5:30 this morning. To say I’m EXHAUSTED would be an understatement. That’s BY FAR the earliest I’ve been up since my last day on Sunrise - Friday November 13th. Crazy it’s been that long, and pretty depressing. Anyway, when I finally made it to Jewish Hospital, I had several tests done, including on this machine behind me. My biggest struggle right now is shortness of breath. I just can’t catch my breath, and I get winded very easily. This machine tests lung strength (among other lung related issues) and I’m happy to report everything came back normal EXCEPT one test. The results from my lung diffusion test were low, and because of that I was referred to a pulmonologist, to hopefully find out exactly what’s going on. It took everything I had to keep from crying. The tests were really simple tasks, but felt impossible. It’s scary when you feel like you can’t breathe - literally, and in life. I’m thankful for the wonderful staff who guided me through today though - for my lung tests, and also a CT scan. I’m still waiting on those results. Overall, I have moments during the day when I feel more like myself, then other moments when I can’t get out of bed. I can’t stand up in the shower, walk down the stairs, hang clothes in my closet, or bend down to pick up something on the floor - all because I’m out of breath. The headaches come and go, my energy level is still low, and I barely have any taste or smell. One of the doctors told me they’re seeing more younger people with long term health issues - in their 30s and 40s. She also said they’ve seen a slight decrease in the number of COVID patients in their ER. In the grand scheme of things, that’s the breath of fresh air I needed.