There is a lot of chatter about UT making a strong run at Walz.
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They'd be crazy not to. Walz is one of the best in the biz, and he has maybe the best player in the country graduating this year along with two other key players. And JW just hired an agent last year to do his leg work.
Now, let's see if "Vince" is man enough to fight off another real threat, if it materializes...
Now, let's see if "Vince" is man enough to fight off another real threat, if it materializes...
Tennessee’s Athletic Dept is abysmal. They’ve let Women’s hoops slide in their attempt to focus all on getting football back to an elite status.
They lost a lot of support when they tried to do away with the “Lady Vols” name and do away with the Powder Blue & Orange color scheme. Word had it that Nike was pressuring them to do it.
Walz has a great gig here and he seems to get along with the new AD. Whatever you do at Tennessee, you’ll be compared to PHS. Summit has a huge coaching tree, I’d assume their purists would look there first.
They lost a lot of support when they tried to do away with the “Lady Vols” name and do away with the Powder Blue & Orange color scheme. Word had it that Nike was pressuring them to do it.
Walz has a great gig here and he seems to get along with the new AD. Whatever you do at Tennessee, you’ll be compared to PHS. Summit has a huge coaching tree, I’d assume their purists would look there first.
I hope we don't lose Coach Walz with him we are a threat every year. He has another great class coming in next year the man is very likable and can coach. The thing that makes me nervous is he did hire an agent after the departure of Jurich. I don't know why Tennessee would be more attractive than Louisville.
Our facilities are better, our conference is better and we have been more relevant than them the past 10 years. We are also a bigger basketball school than Tennessee.
Our facilities are better, our conference is better and we have been more relevant than them the past 10 years. We are also a bigger basketball school than Tennessee.
Why did Ken Lolla leave (for no other job) and Dan McDonnell seriously consider it?
Why would NOT working at U of L be a better option than working until you've charted a new course?
Therein may lie an answer...
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You have no idea why either Lolla left or how long he had considered leaving coaching or, why DM entertained an offer.
Perhaps you should try looking at situations objectively rather than filtering them all through the prism of your agenda.
And the hypnosis.
Rationalizing data points is plain old rationalizing. Which is another name for making excuses...You have no idea why either Lolla left or how long he had considered leaving coaching or, why DM entertained an offer.
Perhaps you should try looking at situations objectively rather than filtering them all through the prism of your agenda.
And the hypnosis.
I agree - you should stop doing it.Rationalizing data points is plain old rationalizing. Which is another name for making excuses...
"Vince" is giving me plenty of data points... SIX lost coaches in 1+ year on the job.
Took Jurich five years to lose six of Bill Olsen's coaches.
Excuses...
Maybe the scandal fatigue got to Lola. DM was not going anywhere, he probably would’ve had our administration not cleaned up the mess.
I believe Lola was just tired and he and his wife just want to do something else in life. AD Tyra will make every effort to keep JW here just as he did with DM. If we do, in fact, lose JW then Vince will just have to go out and do a major search to find his replacement.
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I like Coach Walz he has been a terrific coach and ambassador for the University. Will he stay if UT comes calling I don't know, but he does leave the timing maybe right for him and his family. Like it or not UT was women's college basketball for a long time. Great tradition which always helps with recruits. With that said the push by Vince to make Louisville more family oriented seems to fit Walz culture. Attendance at the women's games is up and he is still building the program.
The good news he has built the program to a point where you can plug and play. His assistant is ready if that is a path Trya wanted to go.
The good news he has built the program to a point where you can plug and play. His assistant is ready if that is a path Trya wanted to go.
How dramatic!
Until you remember that except for Lolla (who leaving to pursue a calling in the ministry) UofL is better off coaching wise for their departures.
Keep in mind though that in “Zipp”’s analysis that the underlying information for each individual data point do not matter
I'm starting to chuckle every time I hear those two words used as a current cop out for bad news and results...
Having handled plenty of data in my life, you don't rationalize data points that aren't outliers. As long as they're consistent, you accept data on face value and study them to see if they show a trend. As I said, six lost coaches in his first year on the job.
If anything, I'd start examining why some coaches are staying...
You have no idea whether that's true, because you have no idea how these other coaches are going to perform. Jurich was applauded for having a great portfolio of coaches. 30% didn't need to be cleaned out in his first year away...
zipp's analysis attempts to remove bias from data analysis. In this space, that generally means clearing away rationalization to reach a desired outcome...
It also involves the inability to look at 6 data points and come to a sound conclusion about each point. For most 6 doesn’t constitute big data.
The info on Lolla is that he had a calling to the ministry. So you can eliminate AD Tyra as the “culprit” in that situation. Plus times are a lot different now than they were back in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
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It has been an embarrassing time for UofL athletics, the new regime is changing the scandal ridden personality of our school.
You should still be out with your cute little sign , marching around like a fool.
The head coaches no longer have the autonomy & latitude over their programs like they did under Jurich. THAT is a BIG/HUGE reason Lolla left.
It's not a coincidence that LouCity FC never played at Lynn Stadium until this year and one of their owners is Vince Tyra.
It's not a coincidence that LouCity FC never played at Lynn Stadium until this year and one of their owners is Vince Tyra.
One thing I do know for sure is "Vince" is saving money on them.Looks like I ripped a page out of the “zipp” posting playbook.
How ironical!
Now, if they turn out to be just as good as coaches, props to "Vince"...
It does when the most coaches we replaced in any one year the last two decades was three. You want me to present that statistical analysis for you?
The problem for a couple of you guys is that we have good data sets for financials, attendance, and other measures dating back years. All you have to do is summarize and analyze it--without biases...
Did he have that "calling" when Jurich immediately walked out the door? My wife reminded me that's when Lolla said he started seriously thinking about leaving. Even if legit, what triggered it?
I learned a long time ago in life not to casually believe in coincidences...
I do. The women’s team is the most successful program at UofL right now. I got season tickets for the first time this year and every time I’ve made the trip I’ve enjoyed the game.
I don’t think Jeff is going anywhere. Unless he’s a great actor he thoroughly enjoys coaching his team.
Give me Vince over jurich 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I don't remember tommy giving his own money to the program.
Again, you keep touting 6 lost coaches like it’s a bad thing. Pitino couldn’t manage a program that got caught cheating twice, Bobby P couldn’t build a program with his players, couldn’t hold on to P5 quality assistants and got caught cheating against Wake, the softball coach was stagnant, and the lacrosse coach was abusive. But of course, all of these coaches were great for the athletic department right?
Jurich wasn't a fanboy, he was an AD. This guy is a fan who was handed the job. Unless he's ready with a hundred million or so, what he's ponying up ain't nearly enough to buy the job...
The SIX I'm referring to doesn't include Pitino.
And when Jurich came in the door, he had to deal with BOTH Cooper and Crum. Yet, he didn't have other coaches taking the next train outta Dodge.
I mentioned in another post... Six is TWICE the number that Jurich ever had in any one year of his twenty here. That's clearly an exception to what this athletic department is accustomed to...
Losing bad coaches or coaches that are consistently bad for our image isn’t a bad thing. And I get that Jurich came into a rough situation as well. It’s good to get new coaches if the current ones aren’t cutting it.
I also care about women's basketball I think they're impressive and entertaining.