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Keyser76

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But it's Obamas and the medias fault they are tripping all over themselves like incompetent idiots, maybe they should ask the Russians how to govern?
 

WVPATX

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But it's Obamas and the medias fault they are tripping all over themselves like incompetent idiots, maybe they should ask the Russians how to govern?

Stock market record high. Consumer confidence hits 15 year high. Companies announcing billions of investment in U.S. jobs. Apple returning factory work to U.S. Coal industry getting started again. U.S. jobless claims near 44 year low. Defense will be rebuilt. Dems in complete disarray. Obama did more destruction to Dem party than anyone since WWII. And you call Trump's team idiots? LMAO.
 

moe

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Stock market record high. Consumer confidence hits 15 year high. Companies announcing billions of investment in U.S. jobs. Apple returning factory work to U.S. Coal industry getting started again. U.S. jobless claims near 44 year low. Defense will be rebuilt. Dems in complete disarray. Obama did more destruction to Dem party than anyone since WWII. And you call Trump's team idiots? LMAO.
94 million out of the workforce.
 

WVPATX

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94 million out of the workforce.

40 days in office. Obama had 8 years. He's off to a great economic start. Give him time for his repeal of job killing Obamacare, his pro growth tax policies and his infrastructure plan, including building the wall. BTW, many Hispanic owned businesses trying to get some of those wall building contracts.
 

atlkvb

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94 million out of the workforce.

Watch what happens when business taxes are cut and Billions in overseas funds are repatriated.

You'll have to be living in a cave or a lazy Government tit sucking Leftist not to be able to find a good paying job.
 

WVPATX

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Watch what happens when business taxes are cut and Billions in overseas funds are repatriated.

You'll have to be living in a cave or a lazy Government tit sucking Leftist not to be able to find a good paying job.

You left out the energy revolution to be unleashed. Fracking, coal mining, exports of oil, etc. High paying jobs.
 

atlkvb

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You left out the energy revolution to be unleashed. Fracking, coal mining, exports of oil, etc. High paying jobs.

Of course...and let's not even talk about increased manufacturing from lower energy costs. The Left is just so happy so see all of the jobs coming back under Trump don't you know?
 

moe

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40 days in office. Obama had 8 years. He's off to a great economic start. Give him time for his repeal of job killing Obamacare, his pro growth tax policies and his infrastructure plan, including building the wall. BTW, many Hispanic owned businesses trying to get some of those wall building contracts.
Not going to defend the so called prez's misinformation? No problem..
 

WVPATX

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Not going to defend the so called prez's misinformation? No problem..

Not sure what you mean by misinformation but:

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
If you like your hospital, you can keep your hospital
The average family will save $2,500 per year
Benghazi was caused by a video

Not misinformation, but blatant lies.
 

moe

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Not sure what you mean by misinformation but:

If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
If you like your hospital, you can keep your hospital
The average family will save $2,500 per year
Benghazi was caused by a video

Not misinformation, but blatant lies.
the 94 million out of the workforce number he threw out again that includes retirees, students, etc. Never mind everyone knows it's hokie anyways.
 
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Coal industry getting started again.

Name some, other than Jim Justice's.

"In 2015, 94 coal-fired power plants closed, with the combined net summer capacity of 13,556 megawatts, according to data from the Energy Information Administration. To put that in context, the country lost roughly the same total capacity of all of Kentucky’s electric sector coal plants that year."

"Six states — California, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Rhode Island and Vermont — no longer have coal-burning power plants other than combined heat and power facilities."

"Alabama is slated to close eight coal-fired generators by 2019."

"Four generators in Kentucky are scheduled to close by 2017; they comprise 10 percent of the state’s coal-fired capacity."

"Demand for coal is dropping, too. Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana each saw electric sector demand for coal drop the most between 2007 and 2015, falling by 49 percent, 44 percent and 37 percent, respectively, according to the EIA."
 

WVPATX

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the 94 million out of the workforce number he threw out again that includes retirees, students, etc. Never mind everyone knows it's hokie anyways.

U6 Unemployment is the figure to watch. That includes those who have given up looking for work and those that want full time work but can only get part time work.

No response on Obama's lies? Or red lines?
 

WVPATX

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Name some, other than Jim Justice's.

"In 2015, 94 coal-fired power plants closed, with the combined net summer capacity of 13,556 megawatts, according to data from the Energy Information Administration. To put that in context, the country lost roughly the same total capacity of all of Kentucky’s electric sector coal plants that year."

"Six states — California, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Rhode Island and Vermont — no longer have coal-burning power plants other than combined heat and power facilities."

"Alabama is slated to close eight coal-fired generators by 2019."

"Four generators in Kentucky are scheduled to close by 2017; they comprise 10 percent of the state’s coal-fired capacity."

"Demand for coal is dropping, too. Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana each saw electric sector demand for coal drop the most between 2007 and 2015, falling by 49 percent, 44 percent and 37 percent, respectively, according to the EIA."

I posted an article just yesterday, apply yourself and do some current reading.
 

dave

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But it's Obamas and the medias fault they are tripping all over themselves like incompetent idiots, maybe they should ask the Russians how to govern?
Maybe you shouldn't drink your lunch.
 

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https://www.usnews.com/news/kentuck...eastern-ky-coal-mines-sold-to-georgia-company
Feb. 23, 2017, at 2:48 p.m.
Coal producer Alpha Natural Resources has sold its mining assets in Harlan County, Kentucky, to a Georgia company that plans to reopen the idled mines.


https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...s-to-reopen-knott-county-mine-hire-60-workers
March 1, 2017, at 12:32 p.m.
Knott County Judge Executive Zach Weinberg says he was told the company plans to hire 60 workers within the next two weeks.


Ensure West Virginia can continue to export coal
http://www.weirtondailytimes.com/op...re-west-virginia-can-continue-to-export-coal/

Use of coal to generate electricity in the United States is expected to make a comeback as Americans begin to understand the reality behind former President Barack Obama’s claims of a cheaper, cleaner future based on wind and solar power.

The truth is that Obama’s war on coal and affordable electricity already is driving utility bills up for millions of Americans. It will get worse as the impact of closures of hundreds of coal-fired generating units hits.

Coal can be burned for electric generation in an environmentally acceptable manner. And, as the price of the natural gas used to fuel many newer power plants rises, low-cost electricity from coal will become more attractive.

All that will take time, however. Many coal miners and communities reliant on them ran out of time years ago, as the Obama administration shut down their mines.

U.S. Rep. David McKinley, R-W.Va., plans to do something about that this week, through a visit with the prime minister of India.

Yes, India. McKinley already has had conversations with that nation’s officials about using more coal to fuel power plants. That coal can come from West Virginia, McKinley believes.

He points out that of the about 1.1 billion people in India, approximately 300 million do not have access to electricity. Coal-fired generating plants offer their only affordable option to enjoy the benefits of power.

Finding new markets such as India for coal is especially critical because of devastation wrought by the Obama administration.

It will take time to develop clean-coal technology and get it online at power plants. While that is happening, the best hope laid-off miners and their devastated communities have is for mines to reopen to feed the export market.

McKinley is right, but his idea will require more than reopening mines. Transportation networks to get coal to seaports will need to be adequate. So will coal-handling facilities at the ports, not to mention ships to carry the fuel.

That is where President Donald Trump — who has proven he plans to keep his pledge to help coal country — comes in. Federal help may be needed to ensure mines in West Virginia, Ohio and other states can get coal to overseas markets. Where possible, the White House should provide it.

Miners, their communities and states need a lifeline to span the time between now and a resurgence of coal-fired power generation. Exports may be the only way to make that happen.
 
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I posted an article just yesterday, apply yourself and do some current reading.

Yeah, the one by Fox News that had no facts and said coal was coming back because of Trumps policy?

Tell us, what has Trump done in his first six weeks in office to make coal "come back"?
 

dave

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Yeah, the one by Fox News that had no facts and said coal was coming back because of Trumps policy?

Tell us, what has Trump done in his first six weeks in office to make coal "come back"?
Maybe if you opened your eyes and shut your ********** for once you could figure it out for yourself sugartits.
 

WVPATX

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Yeah, the one by Fox News that had no facts and said coal was coming back because of Trumps policy?

Tell us, what has Trump done in his first six weeks in office to make coal "come back"?

Even if it were by Fox, it does not make it less accurate. The article is written about a town in Virginia where coal mines have reopened.

The two biggest things that Trump has done is to overturn an EPA regulation and secondly to disengage the department of justice from defending an EPA rule at the Supreme Court. This means the EPA action at the SCOTUS will likely continue to be ruled unconstitutional. But perhaps an action he will not being given credit for is China's decision to stop buying coal from North Korea for fear of angering Trump. This means great opportunities for West Virginia coal in China.
 
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Actually, the article is not by Fox. You may be thinking of a different article. But even if it were by Fox, it does not make it any less accurate.

The two biggest things that Trump has done is to overturn an EPA regulation and secondly to disengage the department of justice from defending an EPA rule at the Supreme Court. This means the EPA action at the SCOTUS will likely continue to be ruled unconstitutional. But perhaps an action he will not being given credit for is China's decision to stop buying coal from North Korea for fear of angering Trump. This means great opportunities for West Virginia coal in China.

What EPA regulation did he overturn?

On your second statement, did the SCOTUS overturn a previous ruling? The answer is no.
 
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Even if it were by Fox, it does not make it less accurate. The article is written about a town in Virginia where coal mines have reopened.

The two biggest things that Trump has done is to overturn an EPA regulation and secondly to disengage the department of justice from defending an EPA rule at the Supreme Court. This means the EPA action at the SCOTUS will likely continue to be ruled unconstitutional. But perhaps an action he will not being given credit for is China's decision to stop buying coal from North Korea for fear of angering Trump. This means great opportunities for West Virginia coal in China.

What EPA regulation did he overturn?

On your second statement, did the SCOTUS overturn a previous ruling? The answer is no.

Still waiting on a response.
 

WVPATX

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What EPA regulation did he overturn?

On your second statement, did the SCOTUS overturn a previous ruling? The answer is no.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...overturns-bill-on-coal-mining-debris.amp.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...e-court-suspends-obamas-clean-power-plan/amp/

I never said that Scotus overturned a previous rule. I said the Trump DOJ will not defend the EPA rule.


Both of the major power sector rules—the Carbon Pollution Standards for new power plants and the Clean Power Plan Rule for existing power plants—are currently subject to litigation. A Trump Administration likely will not have an interest in defending the rules and consequently will take legal steps to reconsider and revise or even repeal the rules.
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...overturns-bill-on-coal-mining-debris.amp.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...e-court-suspends-obamas-clean-power-plan/amp/

I never said that Scotus overturned a previous rule. I said the Trump DOJ will not defend the EPA rule.


Both of the major power sector rules—the Carbon Pollution Standards for new power plants and the Clean Power Plan Rule for existing power plants—are currently subject to litigation. A Trump Administration likely will not have an interest in defending the rules and consequently will take legal steps to reconsider and revise or even repeal the rules.

So it was the Stream Protection Rule which was put in place by the Department of Interior, Office of Surface Minimg Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE) not the EPA and the Stream Protection Rule only went into effect on January 19, 2017.

Your position that the DOJ will not defend Stream Protection Rule is moot.

So in summary, Trump hasn't changed a damn thing yet you all are giving him credit for a "comeback in coal" when there really has been no comeback yet.

So the mantra "Obama and the EPA are killing coal" was a big fat lie that the uneducated fell for.
 

WVPATX

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So it was the Stream Protection Rule which was put in place by the Department of Interior, Office of Surface Minimg Reclamation and Enforcement (OSMRE) not the EPA and the Stream Protection Rule only went into effect on January 19, 2017.

Your position that the DOJ will not defend Stream Protection Rule is moot.

So in summary, Trump hasn't changed a damn thing yet you all are giving him credit for a "comeback in coal" when there really has been no comeback yet.

So the mantra "Obama and the EPA are killing coal" was a big fat lie that the uneducated fell for.

I don't care who promulgated the rule, trump overturned the rule, that is a fact. Secondly, I am not talking about trump doing anything with SCOTUS with respect to the stream protection rule. That has already been overturned. I'm talking about Trump not defending the EPA rule linked below in front of Scotus.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...e-court-suspends-obamas-clean-power-plan/amp/

This is a big deal.

And you failed to mention China now buying coal from the United States after having cut off North Korea because of Trump.

And I already posted an article that provided the facts on the number of plants shuttered by the EPA.

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/e...plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

In summary, Trump has already helped coal and will continue to help coal even more in the future. You may hate that because it seems you hate the state. But it will happen. Coal may not come all the way back from where it once was, but it is making a comeback. Frankly, I'm not sure why this upsets you so much since it will benefit so many coal miners and mining communities in our state.
 
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