They killed the ape up in Cincy.....

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Saw a great candidate this evening for the next gorilla pit episode. Sitting outside for supper this evening in a New Smyrna beach cafe, a couple came in with what looked to be a 4-5 year old boy. They let the little toucher have run of the patio area, where he broke three stalks off of a plant, and pulled up a couple of basil and cilantro plants out of the herb garden, all while only occasionally glancing his way and telling him to "stop". He was also ****ing around a stand filled with several potted plants. I told my wife I was hoping he would pull the stand over and break them all just to see if mom n pop would chalk it up to him loving to "explore".
 

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I wonder why the didn't shoot this gorilla?



or this one:?


Like many have said those were female. Also those gorilla weren't dragging the kids by the ankles like a rag doll through water high enough for the boy to drown if the gorilla decided to hold him down. It's a freaking ape people....not a hard decision of who's life to value more, but this is a time where a majority care more about saving a dolphin instead of thousands of full term babies.
 

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How about the extreme liberal left who support PETA and the release of whales at Sea World, but still refuse to support legislation that bans partial birth abortions where a full term baby is delivered feet first so they can kill the child before it takes a breath and is biologically defined as a living child just because the mother chose to discard it after carrying it for 8-9 months.

Cite that.
 

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What the hell are you even talking about. First PETA and Late term Abortions are two separate issues. Because you support one, doesn't mean you support the other. Second, please google Partial-term abortions where you will learn that this procedure has been banned for over a decade and that it enjoys overwhelming support, even among those who self-identify as pro-choice. There also isn't any current legislation that I am aware of to overturn the ban and no major opposition to it.

So what exactly are you asking for here because the reason it doesn't exist most likely has nothing to do with the 'extreme liberal left".
 

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What the hell are you even talking about. First PETA and Late term Abortions are two separate issues. Because you support one, doesn't mean you support the other. Second, please google Partial-term abortions where you will learn that this procedure has been banned for over a decade and that it enjoys overwhelming support, even among those who self-identify as pro-choice. There also isn't any current legislation that I am aware of to overturn the ban and no major opposition to it.

So what exactly are you asking for here because the reason it doesn't exist most likely has nothing to do with the 'extreme liberal left".
"Because of constitutional challenges, most of these lawshave never been in effect. In its April 2007 decision in Gonzales v. Carhart, the Supreme Court upheld the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 and, in the process, set a major jurisprudential precedent. The federal law includes no health exception.Mar 1, 2016"

Partial birth abortions still happen everyday.

"The report says that in Boston, three major Harvard-affiliated hospitals have responded to the ban by using the injection technique: Massachusetts General, Brigham and Women's, and Beth Israel Deaconess. The injections are the new standard operating procedures for abortions beginning around the 20-weeks' gestation — that's the middle of the fifth month and halfway through full term."

You can play stupid because I'm assuming you agree with it. The same ones preaching animal rights in zoos and aquariums are most time the same ones preaching women's rights wanting it ok to abort babies with beating hearts and the ability to feel pain.
 
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According to a woman on Facebook, who was beside the parent at the zoo, the mom said the kid had his hand in her backpocket while she was taking a picture and then crawled through these bushes and flopped over into the gorilla pit before she realized he was gone.

I have a kid the same age and you can't take your eyes off a kid in that environment. It's also BS to kill a wild animal for something an idiot human did.
Why ? 3000 unborn HUMANS are murdered everyday because of something a selfish IDIOT "HUMAN did? Which is worse?
 
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Rack.

Happened to note to my hen last weekend at the Louisville zoo that the lion exhibit would be *cake* to get into for a kid....climbable ledge, 3' fence, then a 10' drop into a moat similar to the one in question here. Hell BRax's zany kids would make quick work of it.

As much as that gorilla appeared to not be consciously trying to harm the kid, it could've killed the kid accidentally at the drop of a hat. Got to take him down, human (esp kid) over animal every time.
"human (esp. kid) over animal every time" boy you are in big trouble:uzi:
 
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There is zero evidence to suggest that someone "preaching animal rights" are the same ones wanting "it OK to abort babies with beating hearts and the ability to feel pain". You are making a complete assumption and probably a bad one at that since the majority of pro-choice people do not support late term abortions. It is possible (and even encouraged) to have unique opinions for a variety of subjects.

As for the rest, what your article referred to is from some fear piece on fox news. The article refers to a procedure called an instillation abortion and it has been around since the 1920's. In the most recent statistics from the CDC, there were 161 of these procedures completed in the US in 2011. No reasons for the procedures was included on the chart, but it may very well have been linked to the fact that no other exception was given in the ban that provided options for the health of the mother. This procedure has been rarely performed for years because of the significant risks to the mother and is essentially used in emergency situations.
 

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So… the majority of people who didn't want to see an endangered gorilla get killed support abortions of full term babies. Got it.

Thanks, UPSCat! You never fail to inform and educate!!!
 

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Relating animal death to abortion...this is what we call slippery slope. Just the same as it would be slippery slope to say Christians who are against abortion, don't mind that their god lets thousands of thousands of children die of starvation every day, and if churches alone took the money that they don't pay in taxes they could feed all these children. Maybe they should just pray harder though, and see if one day he decides to stop working in "mysterious ways"
 

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"Because of constitutional challenges, most of these lawshave never been in effect. In its April 2007 decision in Gonzales v. Carhart, the Supreme Court upheld the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 and, in the process, set a major jurisprudential precedent. The federal law includes no health exception.Mar 1, 2016"

Partial birth abortions still happen everyday.

"The report says that in Boston, three major Harvard-affiliated hospitals have responded to the ban by using the injection technique: Massachusetts General, Brigham and Women's, and Beth Israel Deaconess. The injections are the new standard operating procedures for abortions beginning around the 20-weeks' gestation — that's the middle of the fifth month and halfway through full term."

You can play stupid because I'm assuming you agree with it. The same ones preaching animal rights in zoos and aquariums are most time the same ones preaching women's rights wanting it ok to abort babies with beating hearts and the ability to feel pain.
So first you say babies are pulled out feet first at 9 months then killed, then you cite the law which has been intact since 2003 where you can't do it, then claim it's still being done. Got it. I also don't think you realize what your reading...partial birth does still happen WHEN THE FETUS IS ALREADY DEAD...you know from other causes.
 

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So first you say babies are pulled out feet first at 9 months then killed, then you cite the law which has been intact since 2003 where you can't do it, then claim it's still being done. Got it. I also don't think you realize what your reading...partial birth does still happen WHEN THE FETUS IS ALREADY DEAD...you know from other causes.
I cited a 2003 law that has been challenged in court since its inception so it has not been enforced. Partial birth abortions are not used in cases of dead fetuses...there would be no point. Point is that people get in an uproar over an animal getting killed, but they could care less about the 1,000's of aborted late term babies that happen every day.
 

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So… the majority of people who didn't want to see an endangered gorilla get killed support abortions of full term babies. Got it.

Thanks, UPSCat! You never fail to inform and educate!!!
Willy you are good for a laugh because everyone knows that you can't possibly be as stupid as you post...or can you? That is all though.
 
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Relating animal death to abortion...this is what we call slippery slope. Just the same as it would be slippery slope to say Christians who are against abortion, don't mind that their god lets thousands of thousands of children die of starvation every day, and if churches alone took the money that they don't pay in taxes they could feed all these children. Maybe they should just pray harder though, and see if one day he decides to stop working in "mysterious ways"
Take God out of it...murder is murder unless you think animal life is more important, or equal to, human life, especially since the murdered HUMAN doesn't get a say in the matter and feels pain just like you do when you stomp your poor little toe...now let somebody cut your toe off and you'll know somewhat of what they feel...this is a barbaric act that this country should be ashamed of especially if those involved would just be responsible enough to take the "easy" steps to not get pregnant in the first place.
 

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I'd love to see some video of what the parent was doing before this happened. When my kids were 4, they were holding a parent's hand or strapped in a stroller always in view in public places. I would have been more worried about the people walking around near them then the animals and wouldn't have taken my eyes or hand off of them.

I could see blaming the zoo if the kid was standing with their parent leaning up against a barrier and it breaking and the kid falling in. That didn't happen but I did find this in one of the articles I read about this.

"Witnesses claim that they heard the child state that he wished to go into the enclosure and was actively trying to breach the barriers."

If that is the case, then the parent should be at fault here. Many of the enclosures at zoos are designed to keep the people separated from the animals and are not impenetrable prisons. I'm sure some ambulance chasing attorney (not bashing all attorneys) will have the parent suing the zoo over this. Regardless of who is at fault, the innocent gorilla is the one that paid the price for this unfortunate incident.
I'm guessing both parents were eating.
 

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Chances that little ******** being raised by those 2 shitheads will contribute 1% of what Harambe did to the world... 0.0%
 

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I cited a 2003 law that has been challenged in court since its inception so it has not been enforced. Partial birth abortions are not used in cases of dead fetuses...there would be no point. Point is that people get in an uproar over an animal getting killed, but they could care less about the 1,000's of aborted late term babies that happen every day.

The reason the law was challenged in 2003 dealt with the language of the Bill and because it provided no options for situations where the Mother's life was at risk. It was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2007 and has been the law of the land ever since. And as I already stated, there have been no efforts to overturn and there isn't any current legislation on the books to repeal it. So, I don't know where you get the "challenged in court since its inception' bit and I also don't see any statistics showing it is not being enforced. If you have some, please trot them out.
 

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The reason the law was challenged in 2003 dealt with the language of the Bill and because it provided no options for situations where the Mother's life was at risk. It was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2007 and has been the law of the land ever since. And as I already stated, there have been no efforts to overturn and there isn't any current legislation on the books to repeal it. So, I don't know where you get the "challenged in court since its inception' bit and I also don't see any statistics showing it is not being enforced. If you have some, please trot them out.
In my original post I mentioned specific partial birth, but I am meaning any form of abortion after it has been scientifically established that a human baby...not fetus....can feel pain at around 20 weeks. I am not the no abortion at any point no matter any circumstance believer, but what I do believe is that for a woman to know she is pregnant and wait to get an abortion until a baby has already developed as much as to have feeling then it is murder. If you don't want a kid then protect yourself. If you are the victim of a rape pregnancy then it is possible to take care of it WAY before 20 weeks...damn even 10 weeks.
 
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