This interview terrifies Democrats

[WVPATX]

Hoffa lauding Trump. First, radical environmentalist, Tom Steyer, with his $100M donation, has moved the Dems so far to the left on fossil fuels which certainly alienates unions. Second, an open border and cheap labor is certainly no asset to unions.

The realignment is underway.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/teamsters-president-praises-trump-hes-off-good-start/

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Hoffa lauding Trump. First, radical environmentalist, Tom Steyer, with his $100M donation, has moved the Dems so far to the left on fossil fuels which certainly alienates unions. Second, an open border and cheap labor is certainly no asset to unions.

The realignment is underway.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/teamsters-president-praises-trump-hes-off-good-start/

Oh my I literally laughed when I read your Facebook Fake News-like headline. Who is terrified? Please support your claim of terrified folks.

 

[WVPATX]

Oh my I literally laughed when I read your Facebook Fake News-like headline. Who is terrified? Please support your claim of terrified folks.

It's actually quite simple. Both elite Republicans and Democrats hate Trump. Trump is a populist with conservative leanings. That scares both elite camps. Why, because he changes the fundamental nature of the GOP party platform to one that is more populist. A focus on the average American, the forgotten man.

So Trump will cut taxes, mostly for middle America. He will cut corporate taxes to stimulate job and economic growth. He will cut regulations for the same reason. He will repatriate overseas profits to extract concessions from businesses to invest in America. He will spend money on infrastructure (GOP doesn't like, Dems love). He will rebuild the military. He will focus on inner cities with tax credit zones for business investment, for education choice, for active policing to reduce crime, for stimulus spending. He will renegotiate trade agreements to reduce our trade deficits and focus on what's best for Americans, which unions will love. He will build a wall. He will secure the border and stop the flow of cheap labor which unions will love. He will embrace an all of the above energy strategy, which unions will love.

This will cause a realignment of both parties. The GOP becoming the champion of middle America, and his other policies designed to break the strangle hold on the black vote. Even Hispanics, who are culturally conservative, may warm to Trump if he "legalizes" the roughly 11,000,000 non-criminals who have a job.

That is the realignment both party elites fear. The GOP elite hate some of these policies. The Dem elite fear they will work. If they do, Dems lose a lot of union support as well as minority support.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Oh my I literally laughed when I read your Facebook Fake News-like headline. Who is terrified? Please support your claim of terrified folks.

Hoffa talked to press, What He Said Next Left Jaws Dropped. lmao. You nailed PATX, he's a Facebook headline writer.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

It's actually quite simple. Both elite Republicans and Democrats hate Trump. Trump is a populist with conservative leanings. That scares both elite camps. Why, because he changes the fundamental nature of the GOP party platform to one that is more populist. A focus on the average American, the forgotten man.

So Trump will cut taxes, mostly for middle America. He will cut corporate taxes to stimulate job and economic growth. He will cut regulations for the same reason. He will repatriate overseas profits to extract concessions from businesses to invest in America. He will spend money on infrastructure (GOP doesn't like, Dems love). He will rebuild the military. He will focus on inner cities with tax credit zones for business investment, for education choice, for active policing to reduce crime, for stimulus spending. He will renegotiate trade agreements to reduce our trade deficits and focus on what's best for Americans, which unions will love. He will build a wall. He will secure the border and stop the flow of cheap labor which unions will love. He will embrace an all of the above energy strategy, which unions will love.

This will cause a realignment of both parties. The GOP becoming the champion of middle America, and his other policies designed to break the strangle hold on the black vote. Even Hispanics, who are culturally conservative, may warm to Trump if he "legalizes" the roughly 11,000,000 non-criminals who have a job.

That is the realignment both party elites fear. The GOP elite hate some of these policies. The Dem elite fear they will work. If they do, Dems lose a lot of union support as well as minority support.

Somebody has to pay for all this

 

[WVPATX]

Somebody has to pay for all this

With all due respect, Obama rolled up 10 trillion in debt. I will not except any criticism of Republicans that based on that history.

 

[WVPATX]

Hoffa talked to press, What He Said Next Left Jaws Dropped. lmao. You nailed PATX, he's a Facebook headline writer.

You're just angry because I called you a liberal. And if you don't think unions getting closer to trump doesn't scare the crap out of Democrats, then you're not very bright either.

 

[atlkvb]

Hoffa lauding Trump. First, radical environmentalist, Tom Steyer, with his $100M donation, has moved the Dems so far to the left on fossil fuels which certainly alienates unions. Second, an open border and cheap labor is certainly no asset to unions.

The realignment is underway.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/teamsters-president-praises-trump-hes-off-good-start/

They have no idea their political foundation is crumbling under their stinky Clorox smelly Lefty feet, and when it finally gives way it's going to be really funny watching them all topple onto one another (smelly feet first)[laughing]

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

You're just angry because I called you a liberal. And if you don't think unions getting closer to trump doesn't scare the crap out of Democrats, then you're not very bright either.

You mean like the Union at Carrier?

[laughing]

 

[atlkvb]

It's actually quite simple. Both elite Republicans and Democrats hate Trump. Trump is a populist with conservative leanings. That scares both elite camps. Why, because he changes the fundamental nature of the GOP party platform to one that is more populist. A focus on the average American, the forgotten man.

So Trump will cut taxes, mostly for middle America. He will cut corporate taxes to stimulate job and economic growth. He will cut regulations for the same reason. He will repatriate overseas profits to extract concessions from businesses to invest in America. He will spend money on infrastructure (GOP doesn't like, Dems love). He will rebuild the military. He will focus on inner cities with tax credit zones for business investment, for education choice, for active policing to reduce crime, for stimulus spending. He will renegotiate trade agreements to reduce our trade deficits and focus on what's best for Americans, which unions will love. He will build a wall. He will secure the border and stop the flow of cheap labor which unions will love. He will embrace an all of the above energy strategy, which unions will love.

This will cause a realignment of both parties. The GOP becoming the champion of middle America, and his other policies designed to break the strangle hold on the black vote. Even Hispanics, who are culturally conservative, may warm to Trump if he "legalizes" the roughly 11,000,000 non-criminals who have a job.

That is the realignment both party elites fear. The GOP elite hate some of these policies. The Dem elite fear they will work. If they do, Dems lose a lot of union support as well as minority support.

I got "scared" reading that PAX and I'm on the Right! But you bowled a perfect 300 on this one... 10 strikes every frame.

The Leftists on the WV Sports OT board probably hate you as much they do Trump because you're predicting their near term political irrelevance.

Shame on you.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

With all due respect, Obama rolled up 10 trillion in debt. I will not except any criticism of Republicans that based on that history.

Not sure where you get your fake news from. :smiley:

The debt grew $9 trillion while Obama was in office. You have to back out his first year as it was really Bush's budget and then add back this year's $400 billion-ish Deficit. Some of that budget deficit attributed to Obama was Bush's emergency spending bills during the beginning of the recession. Looks like you can attribute about $7 trillion directly to Obama. But what's 2-3 trillion among friends?

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I will not except any criticism of Republicans that based on that history.

Except?

And you expect us to believe you have degree from WVU?

I already knew from your idiotic posts that you were a fraud.

 

[atlkvb]

Except?

And you expect us to believe you have degree from WVU?

I already knew from your idiotic posts that you were a fraud.

countryroads89 you have been caught for being wrong on so much I don't know why you persist in trying to correct someone's simple misspelling?

Should we just start a thread of the many times you've been not only wrong, but totally and completely wrong about things? We can start with today and your false assertions about NAFTA.

Humility is a virtue you should study my friend.

 

[WVPATX]

Not sure where you get your fake news from. :smiley:

The debt grew $9 trillion while Obama was in office. You have to back out his first year as it was really Bush's budget and then add back this year's $400 billion-ish Deficit. Some of that budget deficit attributed to Obama was Bush's emergency spending bills during the beginning of the recession. Looks like you can attribute about $7 trillion directly to Obama. But what's 2-3 trillion among friends?

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/budget-deficit-nearly-doubles-during-obama-years/

Facts are sometimes difficult. Remember, Obama passed $850B stimulus in June 2009 that didn't stimulate. Over $9T. Bush budget never passed Congress. Obama owns his own spending plans.


http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/budget-deficit-nearly-doubles-during-obama-years/

 

[lenny4wvu]

I got "scared" reading that PAX and I'm on the Right! But you bowled a perfect 300 on this one... 10 strikes every frame.

The Leftists on the WV Sports OT board probably hate you as much they do Trump because you're predicting their near term political irrelevance.

Shame on you.

There's so much Nazi Zombie retoric on a (sports forum) site,that I thought I has accessed the fake news sites!!.. Mr. PRESIDENT MUST BE DOING SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN CITIZENS, TO SEE ALL THIS HATE SPEWING FROM THEIR VAGINAS. .:flushed::grimace: :scream:... #MAGA..:americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag::americanflag:[cheers]:cool2:[banana]:cool2:[cheers][banana]:cool2:[cheers][banana][cheers]:cool2:[banana][cheers][thumbsup]

 

[WVUCOOPER]

You're just angry because I called you a liberal. And if you don't think unions getting closer to trump doesn't scare the crap out of Democrats, then you're not very bright either.

I'm not at all angry. Just found that to be spot on about your posting style. No need to freak out guy, it's a message board.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/budget-deficit-nearly-doubles-during-obama-years/

Facts are sometimes difficult. Remember, Obama passed $850B stimulus in June 2009 that didn't stimulate. Over $9T. Bush budget never passed Congress. Obama owns his own spending plans.


http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/budget-deficit-nearly-doubles-during-obama-years/

Of course you picked your stats from a paper from the right. I believe your original quote was 10. Now 9. I say 7. I'd say the spending was reckless at a time when the tax revenue was down from Bush tax cuts and less national income, but it avoided a depression. The Obama stimulus package was destined to fail. He would have been better off just giving every American family $10,000 dollars. At least the bail out of automakers and banks worked.

 

[bornaneer]

You mean like the Union at Carrier?

[laughing]

I think these might
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/10/news/economy/uaw-trump-nafta/index.html

 

[WVPATX]

I'm not at all angry. Just found that to be spot on about your posting style. No need to freak out guy, it's a message board.

And in opinion, you're posts are snarky and not very intelligent. Just my opinion.

 

[WVPATX]

Of course you picked your stats from a paper from the right. I believe your original quote was 10. Now 9. I say 7. I'd say the spending was reckless at a time when the tax revenue was down from Bush tax cuts and less national income, but it avoided a depression. The Obama stimulus package was destined to fail. He would have been better off just giving every American family $10,000 dollars. At least the bail out of automakers and banks worked.

Here are the facts and I believe you will find these to be accurate. Bush submitted on time his 2009 budget. It was dead on arrival in Congress. The budget was never approved nor signed by President Bush. I believe it called for a deficit of slightly more than $400 billion. Converse shoes they continuing resolution to fund the government until Obama took office. Obama early in 2009, did sign the budget. He then passed an $850 billion stimulus package in June. Obama owns the 2009 budget and that incredible amount of spending. His addition to the debt is an excess of $9 trillion.

Lastly, even liberal economist now claim the stimulus did not serve it's purpose. It did not ward off a depression. In fact, the recession ended in June 2009, look it up. What did far more to stimulate the economy were fed actions, not fiscal policy of Obama. Unprecedented printing of money and zero interest rates were much more effective in boosting the stock market. Not great for MainStreet but did wonders for Wall Street.

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

Here are the facts and I believe you will find these to be accurate. Bush submitted on time his 2009 budget. It was dead on arrival in Congress. The budget was never approved nor signed by President Bush. I believe it called for a deficit of slightly more than $400 billion. Converse shoes they continuing resolution to fund the government until Obama took office. Obama early in 2009, did sign the budget. He then passed an $850 billion stimulus package in June. Obama owns the 2009 budget and that incredible amount of spending. His addition to the debt is an excess of $9 trillion.

Lastly, even liberal economist now claim the stimulus did not serve it's purpose. It did not ward off a depression. In fact, the recession ended in June 2009, look it up. What did far more to stimulate the economy were fed actions, not fiscal policy of Obama. Unprecedented printing of money and zero interest rates were much more effective in boosting the stock market. Not great for MainStreet but did wonders for Wall Street.

I agree, and said so above, that the stimulus failed. I only think the bailing out of banks (jointly by Dems and republicans and even might have started under Bush) and the bailout of the automakers were successful operations.

 

[WVPATX]

I agree, and said so above, that the stimulus failed. I only think the bailing out of banks (jointly by Dems and republicans and even might have started under Bush) and the bailout of the automakers were successful operations.

I agree on TARP, Bush started the program and Obama continued it to his credit. I don't agree on the auto bailout. I think Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and reorganization was the better way to go. The bankruptcy judge could have abrogated all contracts including union contracts. The auto companies could have renegotiated far better terms ensuring more competitiveness. The bond holders would not have been screwed which destroyed the capital structure of those companies. And the taxpayer would not have been out roughly $17B. The companies would have come out of bankruptcy healthier and more able to compete more quickly.