This is a total waste of money......the ice is melting....

bornaneer

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(CNN)President Barack Obama on Tuesday will propose speeding up the timeline for purchasing and constructing new Coast Guard icebreakers in the Arctic, an area where the United States has fallen behind Russia in resources as the melting sea ice creates more opportunities for global commerce, tourism and scientific research.
 

WVPATX

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(CNN)President Barack Obama on Tuesday will propose speeding up the timeline for purchasing and constructing new Coast Guard icebreakers in the Arctic, an area where the United States has fallen behind Russia in resources as the melting sea ice creates more opportunities for global commerce, tourism and scientific research.

But, but, but libs have told us the Arctic is ice free?
 

Keyser76

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Ya'll can't hold two opposing thoughts in your head at the same time can you? lol, give him props for letting them drill?
 

moe

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But libs and scientists told us it would be ice free. What's wrong?
I can see that you're confused about arctic climate conditions and predictions. It seems that the sources you've been reading have let you down. I suggest that you read more on the subject.
 

WVPATX

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I can see that you're confused about arctic climate conditions and predictions. It seems that the sources you've been reading have let you down. I suggest that you read more on the subject.

Are you denying that some scientists and libs predicted an ice free Arctic? That many "warmists" scientists cannot explain why the combined polar ice extents are as large as they are? You're the one, sir, that needs to read a little more.
 

moe

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You make nonsense posts and then ask me if what you've heard/read is right? lol that's good stuff. I stand my earlier suggestion. You should at least try to sound a little bit informed about what's going on.
 

WVPATX

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You make nonsense posts and then ask me if what you've heard/read is right? lol that's good stuff. I stand my earlier suggestion. You should at least try to sound a little bit informed about what's going on.

Nonsense posts? You never addressed the fact that some libs and some scientists predicted an ice free arctic. Was my statement correct or not?
 

moe

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Nonsense posts? You never addressed the fact that some libs and some scientists predicted an ice free arctic. Was my statement correct or not?
Yes, nonsense posts. If you have information that's troubling you, bring it to the board via link. You struggle mightily to acurately characterize what anyone else has said, so much that you can't be believed so I don't respond to your claims of what others have or have not said. Post links to support your claims, it's not hard.
 

WVPATX

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Yes, nonsense posts. If you have information that's troubling you, bring it to the board via link. You struggle mightily to acurately characterize what anyone else has said, so much that you can't be believed so I don't respond to your claims of what others have or have not said. Post links to support your claims, it's not hard.

You clearly either don't read or are a kool-aid drinker. Read it and weep.

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/ice-free-arctic-forecasts/
 

WhiteTailEER

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So what's your point? Do you support a new ice breaker (or two)?

I have a few people on ignore. It's funny how I can tell which one people are talking to just by the responses without seeing anything at all from the ignored person.
 

WVPATX

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So what's your point? Do you support a new ice breaker (or two)?

I guess the point is that you're not very well informed. Watching MSNBC all day will do that to you. Google can be your friend.
 

moe

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I guess the point is that you're not very well informed. Watching MSNBC all day will do that to you. Google can be your friend.
Just wondering, what are you talking about? Seriously. What am I not informed about? I realize this is difficult for you.
 

WVPATX

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Just wondering, what are you talking about? Seriously. What am I not informed about? I realize this is difficult for you.

You obviously had no idea that some scientists and libs predicted an ice free arctic, some predicted it would happen years ago. You posted that you wanted links for proof. You were unaware of these well known facts.
 

moe

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You obviously had no idea that some scientists and libs predicted an ice free arctic, some predicted it would happen years ago. You posted that you wanted links for proof. You were unaware of these well known facts.
Of course I knew that there were articles like that on the subject that you mentioned but is that really what they say? You shouldn't get yourself so worked up over such things. Nearly all of them say that arctic ice COULD be seasonal gone or that it MAY be seasonally gone or that the NW passage could be open by some year in the future depending on when the article was written. Do you know the meaning of the words that I capitalized? Sure you do. If you know the meaning of those words, then you know that those conditions may or may not come to pass as well. In that really neat link you provided, the first article mentions that the arctic could be navigable some day. Well, seasonally the arctic is navigable now, so there's one that has come to pass. From what I've read, in the summers now there is less sea ice in the arctic than there was, for example, when I was a kid. Talking about climate change is fun, don't you think?
 

WVPATX

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Of course I knew that there were articles like that on the subject that you mentioned but is that really what they say? You shouldn't get yourself so worked up over such things. Nearly all of them say that arctic ice COULD be seasonal gone or that it MAY be seasonally gone or that the NW passage could be open by some year in the future depending on when the article was written. Do you know the meaning of the words that I capitalized? Sure you do. If you know the meaning of those words, then you know that those conditions may or may not come to pass as well. In that really neat link you provided, the first article mentions that the arctic could be navigable some day. Well, seasonally the arctic is navigable now, so there's one that has come to pass. From what I've read, in the summers now there is less sea ice in the arctic than there was, for example, when I was a kid. Talking about climate change is fun, don't you think?

Libs engage in scare mongering, including warmists scientists. The earth could or may explode tomorrow. A world plaque could break out tomorrow. All ridiculous. They made stupid predictions based on really bad climate models, bad science and hyperbole. And you're attempt to deflect as if you knew about these false predictions is actually pretty funny.
 

moe

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Libs engage in scare mongering, including warmists scientists. The earth could or may explode tomorrow. A world plaque could break out tomorrow. All ridiculous. They made stupid predictions based on really bad climate models, bad science and hyperbole. And you're attempt to deflect as if you knew about these false predictions is actually pretty funny.
I deflect nothing, I just understand when folks are guessing at stuff. Aren't you due to post another thread about another cop getting killed and then demonize a large group of Americans? oh wait, you just did that, again. It's like the sun coming up.
 

WVPATX

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I deflect nothing, I just understand when folks are guessing at stuff. Aren't you due to post another thread about another cop getting killed and then demonize a large group of Americans? oh wait, you just did that, again. It's like the sun coming up.

My God. The Black Lives Matter crowd has openly called for death to cops and I'm demonizing them? Is there any liberal behavior you don't condone?