This is beyond embarrassing

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Seriously I would have more faith in LCpl Schmuckatelli on the ground right now to make better decisions than those two clowns.
LCpl Schmuckatelli would have
1. kept open Bagram AB and the corridor between it and Kabul/Kandahar.
2. coordinated the evacuation with European and Afgan allies instead of picking up and leaving in the middle of the night ( I don't think some people realize what a crushing moral blow that was to the AFA).

Blinken and Sullivan are jokes but the military has a lot of blame to pass around.
 

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LCpl Schmuckatelli would have
1. kept open Bagram AB and the corridor between it and Kabul/Kandahar.
2. coordinated the evacuation with European and Afgan allies instead of picking up and leaving in the middle of the night ( I don't think some people realize what a crushing moral blow that was to the AFA).

Blinken and Sullivan are jokes but the military has a lot of blame to pass around.
The military leaders for sure. I know you'll agree, I'm damned proud of our soldiers and what they do!
 

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LCpl Schmuckatelli would have
1. kept open Bagram AB and the corridor between it and Kabul/Kandahar.
2. coordinated the evacuation with European and Afgan allies instead of picking up and leaving in the middle of the night ( I don't think some people realize what a crushing moral blow that was to the AFA).

Blinken and Sullivan are jokes but the military has a lot of blame to pass around.

They are following orders. Yes senior leadership could resign out of protest however this is being directed by those two clowns. Blame Biden also. He could tell them to take a seat give Commanders on the ground their mission of getting civilians out and let them decide the best way to do it. That's not what is happening and I promise you they know how to do this. Seriously this is all political ******** getting in the way.
 
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They are following orders. Yes senior leadership could resign out of protest however this is being directed by those two clowns. Blame Biden also. He could tell them to take a seat give Commanders on the ground their mission of getting civilians out and let them decide the best way to do it. That's not what is happening and I promise you they know how to do this.
It’s a return to the Obama doctrine of bottlenecking everything at the top. The administration is comprised of academics who believe the rank and file are just gorillas with guns. They don’t understand their troops and worse, they don’t trust them.

It’s why the rank and file, division commanders on down loved Trump. Maybe thought he was a moron in how he talked and looked, but they respected him as a President. For no other reason, he allowed them to exercise their discretion. He put trust in them.
 

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It’s a return to the Obama doctrine of bottlenecking everything at the top. The administration is comprised of academics who believe the rank and file are just gorillas with guns. They don’t understand their troops and worse, they don’t trust them.

It’s why the rank and file, division commanders on down loved Trump. Maybe thought he was a moron in how he talked and looked, but they respected him as a President. For no other reason, he allowed them to exercise their discretion. He put trust in them.

A boot Lt. could have written a 5 paragraph order in an hour with our assistance that would have worked better than what those two clowns came up with in 8 months.
 

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what rank is a division commander? AF doesn't really have equivalent structure since they did away with air division in the 90s. closes thing is probably a wing which is normally a full bird or possible a 1 star
 

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A boot Lt. could have written a 5 paragraph order in an hour with our assistance that would have worked better than what those two clowns came up with in 8 months.
I'm reminded of the song "Send in the clowns." But, that's disrespectful to clowns who know what they are doing
 

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what rank is a division commander? AF doesn't really have equivalent structure since they did away with air division in the 90s. closes thing is probably a wing which is normally a full bird or possible a 1 star
1st Marine Division is Major General Turner. However this doesn't require a Division to accomplish. At least not from the same Division.
 
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what rank is a division commander? AF doesn't really have equivalent structure since they did away with air division in the 90s. closes thing is probably a wing which is normally a full bird or possible a 1 star
Yea they do, it’s basically a wing commander. 1-2 star.

Marine Corps has MEF commanders which is basically the same as a NAF Cmdr or Army Cmdr
 

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Yea they do, it’s basically a wing commander. 1-2 star.

Marine Corps has MEF commanders which is basically the same as a NAF Cmdr or Army Cmdr
This is a job for the MEF. A MEU could get it done if they allowed them.
 
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Oh wait what Europe thinks of us matters now…even though they thought Trump was a *** stain. Interesting how that works.
Intelligent people were having a discussion. Take your little dunce cap and sit in your corner.
 

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Oh wait what Europe thinks of us matters now…even though they thought Trump was a *** stain. Interesting how that works.
Actually, Europe didn’t think that. The socialist parties within Europe hated him, much like here.
 

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Oh wait what Europe thinks of us matters now…even though they thought Trump was a *** stain. Interesting how that works.
They respect strength, not the **** stain that Biden and harris and the rest of the libs in govt are now